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Analyst: Satellite HD doesn't scare cable
(old news - 11:27AM Tuesday May 23 2006)
tags: satellite · Video · competition · cable
"Only 25 percent to 50 percent of homes with HD-compatible sets [are] subscribing to a high def package," says an article at SkyReport asking "Does HD Matter Yet?" Doug Shapiro of Bank of America Securities claims cable doesn't have a lot to worry about when it comes to HD competition for HD-services. Programming remains limited, and DirecTV has been sluggish in rolling out its new MPEG-4 based HD-DVR.

As for the low uptake rate, recall the HD survey from Scientific Atlanta that found half of all HDTV owners didn't use the HD capabilities of their set, and nearly a quarter thought they were watching HD video when they actually hadn't set it up correctly.

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y2flyy

join:2004-04-17
Baton Rouge, LA

'Does HD Matter Yet?'

Good question? Personally I do think currently it matters. To the avg comsumer they would not notice a difference. even if they did it doesn't warrant the cost of service with only few channels available. It will matter once HD is a standard after the cable companies are forced to switch.
robscullion
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Philadelphia, PA

Re: 'Does HD Matter Yet?'

The cable companies will never be forced to switch.

BF69

join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN

Re: 'Does HD Matter Yet?'

said by robscullion See Profile :

The cable companies will never be forced to switch.
basically they will. Do you think in 2021 HDTV will not be the standard? Of course it will be. Standard TV will be dead long before then. I will be shocked if in 2016 most TV programming isn't in HD.
robscullion
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Re: 'Does HD Matter Yet?'

Actually, I expect we'll have moved away from the time-slotted, broadcast model of content distribution by then. There's a good chance we'll even be past the idea of a broadcast standard at that point and more into media encoding standards. That is if the current morphing of cable/telcos into data service providers continues to it's logical conclusion of IP based on-demand style programming.

I read the OP's remark to mean that the CCs would be forced to switch to HD by some non-market (IE FCC) force. I cannot tell you the number of times I've heard co-workers say they needed to get an HDTV before the FCC cutoff date. This is people who all have cable. There's a lot of confusion out there on the whole "HD"/FCC thing.

Anyway, I think they'll continue to supply SD content until it's no longer worth the cost. When the cost is higher than the return, they'll tell the 3 people that are left on SD that they need to get an HD box. To me, that's not exactly "being forced" but I admit it's a subjective term.

AudlgY

@rogers.com

i should hope by 2021 atenna frequencies are HD, the cable companies will be forced, not by any government regualtions but by the demand of HD. Comapnies are already advertising and competing with each otehr (at least in Canada) about how many HD stations they have.

vatorman

@verizon.net

As a televison employee for over 32 years in network and local companies, I'm here to tell you... IT DOES MATTER and they will be forced to switch. There will be no regular tv as of the latest deadline by the FCC which is around 3 years time.

They will be forced to compete with the other services. And once people see HD pix they are convinced. It is obvious.

PaulHikeS2

join:2003-03-06
Merrimack, NH
·Comcast

Re: 'Does HD Matter Yet?'

The FCC deadline is for the switch from analog to digital, not a switch to HD. Digital comes in other forms, such as multicasting: it's not just HD.

None of this, however, affects the cable companies. The FCC deadline is only for broadcast television. Cable companies can continue to send an analog signal as long as feasible for them to do so, because CATV is a closed system.
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rradina

join:2000-08-08
Chesterfield, MO
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Re: 'Does HD Matter Yet?'

Don't you find it amazing that an industry veteran with 32 years of experience doesn't recognize the deadline is digital, not HD.

In my opinion, there is a lot of confusion around what HD is (720i or p vs 1080i or p).and as long as that confusion exists, content providers can snow the general public. I recall when my local cable provider was only "half" digital. The satellite providers bashed this and said they were "pure digital" even though their local feeds originated in analog just like the cable companies. Now my local cable company is all digital and even sources their digital local channels from the broadcaster's digital feed. Gone are the satellite company's claims of pure digital.

Even now, FOX and ABC use 720p and PBS, NBC and CBS use 1080i. One would think that 1080i would be better but even I'm confused since 1080i is interlaced and 720p is not. The 720 might actually have a more flicker free picture than 1080i.

I think along with the digital conversion, the FCC should step in and define a single HD standard and force content providers to adhere to 1080p -- currently the best resolution. Even if the program's content doesn't fill 1080p's resolution potential, it should be black boxed. With this type of parity, the "we're pure digital" snow jobs will be gone and TV manufacturers won't have the wiggle room to produce a low end "HD ready" set that is really a piece of crap if the public understood it was only capable of 480p.

blah8492

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I'm pretty sure the US has set a-semiofficial switch date of 2009-10 if i remember right, that could've been a rumor though

N3OGH
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I have a high def DV and a high def box from Comcast.

Pretty much only thing I watch in HD is sporting events. The Nascar races in HD are awesome...

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Re: 'Does HD Matter Yet?'

said by N3OGH See Profile :

I have a high def DV and a high def box from Comcast.

Pretty much only thing I watch in HD is sporting events. The Nascar races in HD are awesome...
I agree with you. Sports in HD is just like night and day. They look way better in HD format. And now, almost all prime time series are in HD too. Not as obvious an advantage by having HD when comparing to sports, but it is still better than SD.
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cableties
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Re: 'Does HD Matter Yet?'

SD is good for NOT seeing Madden's makeup!!!



So the reason 25% watch is that there are only 10 HD channels, and 4 are PPV. Most DVDs confuse folks as the aspect ratios mislead and don't always fill the screens. And some sets don't do a very good job down-samp'n to SD.

I know my HDTV-Ready set is used mostly (correction 100%) for Xbox 360. I'm waiting for new generation of HDTVsets this summer and maybe even longer for SED sets. And HDTV-LCD sets are still evolving...better contrast, faster response time, 1080P...almost makes sense to just use TV for gaming and movies. But I'm not paying more for minimal HD content.

kamm

join:2001-02-14
Brooklyn, NY
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said by GOLFnSUN See Profile :

said by N3OGH See Profile :

I have a high def DV and a high def box from Comcast.

Pretty much only thing I watch in HD is sporting events. The Nascar races in HD are awesome...
I agree with you. Sports in HD is just like night and day. They look way better in HD format. And now, almost all prime time series are in HD too. Not as obvious an advantage by having HD when comparing to sports, but it is still better than SD.
The point is that cable lacks the content Dish has in HD. Of course you can't watch anything else but sports...

Toadman
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join:2001-11-28
Medina, OH

Re: 'Does HD Matter Yet?'

I disagree with this statement. My cable company Armstrong provides more HD channels than Dish Network or DirecTV, and correct me if I am wrong, but DirecTV is the only one that offers local HD channels via sat. (not terrestrial antenna) and only for like 2 markets. I get my HD locals plus national feed PBS, ESPN HD, Wealth TV HD, My local sports channel (2) in HD, and Universal HD for Free. All I pay for is HD Net and HD Movies and that is 3 dollars. The rental fee for the HD PVR receiver is $6 a month and Dish Network and DirecTV are nutz if they think I am going to pay 400 for their receiver and then pay them 5 dollars a month for the privilege to use my receiver and 10 a month for the HD channels.

kamm

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Re: 'Does HD Matter Yet?'

said by Toadman See Profile :

I disagree with this statement. My cable company Armstrong provides more HD channels than Dish Network or DirecTV,
Now that's just plain wrong. FYI: VOOM HD package has 15 exclusive HD-only channels for Dish, apart from its usual premium and other HD lineup.

One thing is clear ever since Dish bought Voom: nobody has more HD than Dish. I hate Dish, arrogant @ssholes but this is the only reason I have Dish.

and correct me if I am wrong, but DirecTV is the only one that offers local HD channels via sat. (not terrestrial antenna) and only for like 2 markets.
You're wrong, Dish also have local HD channels but it doesn't really matter: majority of those HD locals are still nothing but uprezzed SD programming, let alone the fact that DirecTV's HD PQ is *far the worst* on the whole market.
Remember their notorious 10Mbit MPEG2 HD channels as real HD? Ridiculous.

I get my HD locals plus national feed PBS, ESPN HD, Wealth TV HD, My local sports channel (2) in HD, and Universal HD for Free. All I pay for is HD Net and HD Movies and that is 3 dollars.
Now add all the Dish premium HD channels to your list (HBOHD, DiscoveryHD, ShowtimeHD, TNTHD, ESPN2HD etc) then add another 15 HD channels of VOOM - that's what I'm receiving from Dish and I pay around $90 per month.

The rental fee for the HD PVR receiver is $6 a month and Dish Network and DirecTV are nutz if they think I am going to pay 400 for their receiver and then pay them 5 dollars a month for the privilege to use my receiver and 10 a month for the HD channels.
I fully agree, they are arrogant @ssholes, I'm always looking for the chance to dump them. I own my equipment, so I'm constantly thinking about keeping my Voom HD only for some $10-15 per mo only and order cable....

AudlgY

@rogers.com

Re: 'Does HD Matter Yet?'

Now add all the Dish premium HD channels to your list (HBOHD, DiscoveryHD, ShowtimeHD, TNTHD, ESPN2HD etc) then add another 15 HD channels of VOOM - that's what I'm receiving from Dish and I pay around $90 per month.
actually, you cant just add 15 channels, in Canada on Rogers ive got at least 3-4 more channels then bell expressvu or starchoice (2 major ones up here) and i still pay less than them.

kamm

join:2001-02-14
Brooklyn, NY

Re: 'Does HD Matter Yet?'

? VOOM HD is a seaparate package...

Stryker762

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I don't know about you, But I am offered 23 HD channels through my cable provider Wide Open West (Michigan Detroit Area)
raybrett

join:2001-02-20
Saint Louis, MO
It may look better, but it isn't worth it to me.
Kearnstd
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lack of HD programing is why HD doesnt really matter yet. that said its still no reason not to buy an HDTV, just make sure it has HDMI and HDCP for when the new Policeware DVDs come out.
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yabos

join:2003-02-16
Ingersoll, ON

Re: 'Does HD Matter Yet?'

Pretty much every prime time show is in HD now, so there's lots of programming. Discovery Chanel HD, 100% HD programming. PBS HD. Pretty much 80% or more of what I watch is available in HD.

SkullBot

join:2003-05-07
Huntington Beach, CA

Re: 'Does HD Matter Yet?'

I bought an HDTV about a month ago. I rushed out and got the SA 8300HD from my cable co. (brighthouse) and subscribed to all the HD content they offer. Having spent some time with it after being on the fence for so long I have to say it is a cool thing however not nearly enough content to justify the price. I dont watch network TV so that dosent count to me. Discovery HD and INHD and HDMAX are the best channels out there right now. I calibrated my TV so it looks really good however I would not recommend it to anyone that is on the fence right now. I mainly got mine for games, DVDs, and to replace a 20 year old broken TV.

SNT
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Satellite Beach, FL

Re: 'Does HD Matter Yet?'

That's more or less due to Brighthouse. I switched to Dish which has more HD content for less money. Then to that you can add the OTA HD which blows away the cable and Sat compressed content.

-SNT

SkullBot

join:2003-05-07
Huntington Beach, CA

Re: 'Does HD Matter Yet?'

I wish I could get DISH or DIRECTV. However living in a condo I'm stuck with cable.

SNT
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Re: 'Does HD Matter Yet?'

I'm sorry man. I feel for you.

hdtvtechno

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Chicago, IL

said by SkullBot See Profile :

I calibrated my TV so it looks really good however I would not recommend it to anyone that is on the fence right now. I mainly got mine for games, DVDs, and to replace a 20 year old broken TV.
Want to spend a little more, and get a great investment out of that HDTV ?...

Buy an Clean Power Device from »www.richardgrayspowercompany.com

it takes all that juice from that power transformer thats on the pole in your neighborhood and brings it all to you power outlet,
if you call up the company, they would better explain it to you, and offer advice

and if you want to take it futher, upgrade your power cables in the house and run dedicated A.C. circuits runs from the power outlet (where the HDTV is) to the power breaker box
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Slacker44

join:2001-05-10
Gilbert, AZ


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I certainly can't speak for the nation as a whole, but everyone I know here in Phoenix thinks HD definately matters. Personally, I rarely watch channels that aren't HD. FoodTV and the Travel Channel are going HD soon and I hope Cox picks those up here. Once those channels go HD, I'll have zero need for non-HD channels at all.

As for Satellite HD, lets see what the "analyst" says after DirecTV puts up their new system with a boatload of HD channels.

dvd536
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Re: 'Does HD Matter Yet?'

said by Slacker44 See Profile :

I certainly can't speak for the nation as a whole, but everyone I know here in Phoenix thinks HD definately matters. Personally, I rarely watch channels that aren't HD. FoodTV and the Travel Channel are going HD soon and I hope Cox picks those up here. Once those channels go HD, I'll have zero need for non-HD channels at all.

As for Satellite HD, lets see what the "analyst" says after DirecTV puts up their new system with a boatload of HD channels.
I wonder which four cox phoenix dropped. their ads used to say 20 hd channels now its only 16. and some of those are PPV so those really don't count.
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truocchio

join:2004-07-05
Miami Beach, FL

I have to disagree. Any person with decent vision will notice the difference. It is tremendous. I really didnt think it mattered till I moved into my new place a year ago and spent on a true HD system. Anyone who comes to my place remarks on the quality and clarity of the HD channels. Its like the difference from dial up to broadband (and not 256k bb). Discovery HD is the best, it actually saves me on traveling :P !!!
bond787

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Well said man i agree
Kearnstd
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HDTV needs to be easier to use imo, the typical home user doesnt know what component video is or even how to switch their TV set off of the standard CATV input. whats needed is elimination of the cable box even for digital, making a standard across all CATV systems and then having TVs do it with a card from the cable co while retaining the program guide one gets with the box.
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I bet a lot are like us, we don't even have an HD TV, though we are planning to sometime in the near future.
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trouble with 1080p is that there isnt the bandwidth for it on the distrobution systems for TV.
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R4M0N
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25 to 50%?!

Wow, it only goes to show that people will not do their homework. How much you want to bet that a fair amount of the people without HD service are under the impression that the TV makes everything HD no matter what the signal?

I'm still waiting. My current set is nearing 4 years old, so I'm not in a hurry, but when I do buy something to replace it, it will be HD. In the mean time, I might tinker with a cheaper (lots cheaper, actually) HD TV card for my computer. My current TV card is showing its age.

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ArchAngel21x
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I Am Ready

I just recently bought a HD TV, but the main reason being I wanted to have one monitor for both TV and my computer.

dadkins
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HD screens with SD signal?

Has anyone seen what a SD signal looks like on a HD screen? UGH!!!

[Captian Obvious] HD blows SD away! Severely![/Captain Obvious]

I watch just about anything I can in HD, whether I like the show or not... I just like the intense picture quality! LOL!

Having a HD set and watching SD quality programming on it is like having a Bentley to go grocery shopping at the corner market! DUH!
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nasadude

join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD

lotta clueless goobs

remember how many people said they "can't get the flashing 1200 off their VCR" back in the day when most people used VCRs? They apparently have not gotten any less clueless and are now buying HDTVs.
kjl1977

join:2003-02-20
Bolingbrook, IL

Re: lotta clueless goobs

Exactly. I can't believe people would go bleeding edge and drop THOUSANDS for an HD set, only to watch SD. It's rediculous, and makes me feel better for saving my money.
dogo88

join:2001-09-24
Old Bridge, NJ
Ah, updating the VCR and getting HDTV aren't exactly in the same technical group.

R4M0N
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Re: lotta clueless goobs

said by dogo88 See Profile :

Ah, updating the VCR and getting HDTV aren't exactly in the same technical group.
I would disagree. The VCR was as "leading edge tech" as HDTV is today and in both cases you have the people who just look at the shiny box and think that they must have it with doing a bit of research into what is it that they are buying or how it works.

Back then, you had the people who couldn't pick up a manual to update the VCR clock and today you have the people who couldn't pick up a mouse to research how an HDTV works.
fitbryan

join:2005-07-26
Santa Monica, CA

Re: lotta clueless goobs

haha I just switched my entire building of 10 subscribers to Dish Network over the weekend specifically for the MPEG4 HiDef they provide. We cancelled DirecTV.
Kearnstd
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hopefully HDMI will make HDTV as user friendly as SDTV and a single coax cable. that and maybe adding something to the program guide, when someone punches up the SD version of a network maybe it could say in the program guide "to watch this in high defination tune to channel xxx".
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b10010011
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join:2004-09-07
Bellingham, WA

A turd in HD...

Is still a turd.

Thats is why HD does not matter to the average consumer.

There is still nothing but crap on TV so who cares if it is in HD?

R4M0N
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Re: A turd in HD...

said by b10010011 See Profile :

Is still a turd.

Thats is why HD does not matter to the average consumer.

There is still nothing but crap on TV so who cares if it is in HD?
Because you can see the many eyes of the fly landing in that turd. In SD, all you can see is the fly.

Michieru2
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Re: A turd in HD...

Haha
b10010011
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Sure but doesn't all the fine detail make watching the turd even more disgusting?

Kind of like seeing all them lines, wrinkles, and blemishes on the face of that aging star you used to be so hot for?
olegy

join:2003-06-02
San Diego, CA

satellite will never beat cable

HD satellite PQ really sucks compare to the cable HD PQ.
It suffers from :
1. been broadcasted in the lower resolutin aka "HD lite" - 1280/1024,
2. Highly compressed - blockness and/or blurring present.

Cable/OTA broadcast is usually full blown uncompressed HD.
Dish owners do not usually realize what is they are in fact watching.

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moonpuppy

join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD
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You don't know what you are missing.......

..........until you see it.

My father is a technophobe. He never saw the need for a DVD player (until he saw what they could do over his VHS.) He never saw the need for cable TV (until he discovered CNN, MSNBC, History, Discovery and HBO.) He never saw the point of an HDTV until I bought mine (62" 1080P Mitsubishi.) He even told his cousin that he never saw the point in it until he saw it firsthand. I am slowly teaching him which channels are HD.

It will grow slowly but it will grow.

odreian615

join:2006-01-18
Chicago, IL

Affordable

When HDTV become so affodable that you can get one for your kids room it will really take off till then it really dont matter
thebulldan

join:2005-06-13
Bridgeport, PA

Re: Affordable

Why is it not affordable. Gateway has a gourgeous 21" LCD for $600. Comcast doesn't charge you anything extra for your HD box.

Aside from that, if you have all the premiums, you have around 20 HD channels!!!

Worth it? - yes sir!!!

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Re: Affordable

said by thebulldan See Profile :

Why is it not affordable...
Aside from that, if you have all the premiums...
OK, so how much do you spend per month for your "affordable" HD?
thebulldan

join:2005-06-13
Bridgeport, PA

Re: Affordable

I have a bundle that includes:

HSI
Voice
2 HD boxes (1 of which is a DVR)
HBO, Shotime, Starz, and Cinemax

$140
ned215

join:2004-04-02
Dundee, IL

If you don't want to hand over extra money to a cable or satellite company, simply get a rooftop antenna. Aside from the cost of the antenna it's free. Not only that but you'll get a better picture from OTA HD than any other way. About the only thing that could prevent someone from going the OTA route is if they live in an apartment or condo.
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TV reception via antenna is total crap and you only get one channel, maybe two when you live in the burbs.
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Rick
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Only 25% to 50%?

That's still a lot of people that DO have HD service when you consider the number of HDTV's that are rolling off the shelves and into customers homes.

I'm one of those people that just recently purchased a new HDTV but that doesn't as of yet have a HD service.

And, the reason isn't because i'm a moron who thinks i'm watching HD anyway...
And, I really don't think that's the reason for the vast majority of users either who haven't subscribed yet.

I haven't made the leap yet because I simply haven't decided whether I want to stay with cable, or go over to satellite. There's quite a bit to compare in terms of price and what channels are available. At the very high end package of my cable company..HDTV with 4 premiums, with internet service would actually be less than the satellite companies and namely dish who seems to have the best packages.
The negative though is my cable company has quite a few less channels that are hi def versus Dish.

For me, i'm just trying to give it a little time to see how that will change. Comcast is soon taking over my cable company as well in this area, and given their size, i'd expect them to become very competitive on the HD front pretty soon.

While I could rush out right now and get a good deal with Dish, i'd prefer I think to stay with cable because of the relative simplicity in getting it hooked up and really because of the internet access as well.

And so, I think these early numbers showing low percentages are probably just flukes..and a lot of people are like me and have the hdtv equipment but are just doing some research and not jumping into a service just yet.
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pradeep1

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Re: Only 25% to 50%?

While I agree with your assessment of your problem Rick, I do think most people are just morons and don't know what they are doing.

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Matters, but Most are Idiots

There are still a ton of people out there that buy that nice plasma or LCD because it looks good and can be hung on a wall. They have no idea what HD is, and have everything connected using Composite (Yellow cable + white/red). They usually think it looks great, and are very proud of the flat panel display.
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squashpile

join:2001-06-13
Birmingham, AL

rons

Yeah it matters.. I can't stand to watch SD anymore.
dillow

join:2006-01-07
Queens Village, NY

my dad thinks we have hdtv

we have a hdtv tv, but my dad thinks our standard time warner cable is clear enough. so da only time when my tv is bein used at it's potentional is when i'm playin my 360
grandpinaple

join:2006-01-03
New York, NY

Ok...

Give me liberty or give me 1080p.

Anonymous
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Well people forget that with a HD TV and a HD DCT most of the SD channels look like crap (well not on all HDTV but they look worse compared to some old fashioned TV set). So not only you get few HD channels but now all other channels look much worse on that HD TV.

I have a HD Sony TV and the only reason I got was a great deal and no interest financing.

richardpor
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join:2003-04-19
Portland, OR

NO and never will...............................

Not if I have to pay more than $300 for a 32" LCD monitor and I am not giving up my DVD player less I can get a HD DVD player for under $150.

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Re: NO and never will...............................

said by richardpor See Profile :

Not if I have to pay more than $300 for a 32" LCD monitor and I am not giving up my DVD player less I can get a HD DVD player for under $150.
Good luck finding a price like that anytime soon
bhorow

join:2004-05-17
Forest Hills, NY

HD Matters and why the stats are true.

HD Matters, but what happens is that there is little focus on selling HD channels at this point, since cable companies are more focused on selling Digital Phone Service. Also reps generally don't bother to explain where to find the HD channels.

It's really a lot to do with customer education, I think only 1 out of ever 3 customers even know that when you view CBS you need to go to the HD Channel for CBS to see it in HD.

Most think that when then say available in HD means that they are viewing it in HD as long as they have a set. The Networks do a bad job explaining that its on a different channel.

Generally speaking most HD customers are willing to purchase HD Packages , if they understand what there viewing is not in HD. Most don't know.

Most sports are available in HD and if you saw the Oscar De La Hoya fight in HD you would say that its a huge difference.

This shows poor customer education, I don't know about other people but I take the time to explain this to customers, not because I have to but because its the right thing to do.
pradeep1

join:2006-05-25
Augusta, GA

HD Does Matter, Consumer Education Poor

I believe HD does matter, but the lack of consumer education shows how little people understand HD. I've been to stores (Circuit City, Sams, CompUSA) that have 720p/1080i/1080p sets on display showing 480p content. How is a consumer to truly judge anything if they can't see it.

I know many people who have HDTVs in their house, but have not hooked it up properly or bought the HD service, so they end up watching analog 480p content and think they are getting HD because the image is stretched.

I had not truly experienced the wonder of HD until I bought my own Samsung 720p set and hooked up and configured everything properly using good quality components (think HDMI or DVI-D). Now the difference is like night and day. Fortunately, 80% of what I watch is on HD in my area, with just the History Channel, MTV, VH1, Comedy Central, and the Food Channel missing in the lineup.
bubbadersh

join:2002-10-04

SD screens with downconverted HD content

There is a lot to be said for watching HiDef material over a regular old crapolla StdDef TV (using component inputs). Generally the HD show, downconverted to regular SD, looks better than the original show broadcast in SD.

The key to this is the quality of the source material. The HD content is usually far cleaner than the equivalent SD content. The downconversion process should produce, unless done really poorly, a far sharper and cleaner picture than you would normally receive from an NTSC video broadcast.

You can even watch tiny versions of TV shows downloaded through iTunes that are of lower definition than SD. They look remarkably good even though the ipod screen is only 2.5 inches.
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