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1.5Mbps upstream, new tier launched in Lexington
(old news - 02:27PM Friday Apr 10 2009)
tags: prices · Fiber · competition · business · bandwidth · telco · Windstream
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Like most ISPs, Windstream Communications is now on Twitter, and today dropped the news that they'll be unveiling a new 24Mbps down, 1.5Mbps fiber service in Lexington, Kentucky. The company primarily serves ADSL2+, but offers FTTH in select developments (the company confirmed to us this is FTTH). While the upstream bandwidth leaves something to be desired, the $44.99 standalone price tag is impressive. Windstream was created back in 2006 when it was spun off by Alltel (now part of Verizon Wireless) and merged with Valor Communications. Windstream (see our user reviews) now offers broadband service to about 88% of its 3 million access lines. The area's competition is Insight Communications, who offer a $45 10Mbps/1Mbps package and a $55 20Mbps/1.5Mbps tier.

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Smith6612
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Can't complain.

Sure the upstream may be a bit low on this package, but certainly it's nice to see Windstream joining the FTTH bandwagon!

Eat Me

join:2002-09-25
Sussex, NJ

Re: Can't complain.

But with 1.5M upload? My cable connection does better. Even OOL Boost does better.
iansltx

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Re: Can't complain.

They're competing against 1.5 Mbit uploads, and previously 768k was the norm. We're also talking about not-New-Jersey and not-NYC here...personally, I'd be fine giving up 512k of upload speed in exchange for 200% more download speed, a $20 per month lower price than I'm paying now...and no caps!

Matt
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Re: Can't complain.

said by Eat Me See Profile :

But with 1.5M upload? My cable connection does better. Even OOL Boost does better.
It's all about competition. My FTTH is only 15Mbps down and 2Mbps up, for $69.99 a month. The fastest tier I can purchase from a competitor is 10Mbps/512Kbps from Time Warner.

Eat Me

join:2002-09-25
Sussex, NJ

Re: Can't complain.

Exactly it is ALL about competition, which is why DOCSIS is just fine for most people right now.

FTTH is pretty much a waste at today's speeds.
Skippy25

join:2000-09-13
Hazelwood, MO

Re: Can't complain.

Reminds me of the old saying "Build it and they will come."

In this case the "they" are the applications, users, and legitimate uses that FTTH can bring to the table with the increased innovation.

All of you people that sit here and say "but that much speed will do you no good" or "nobody needs anything that fast" or "what could you legally do with that much speed?" are blind morons.

Eat Me

join:2002-09-25
Sussex, NJ

Re: Can't complain.

Except that increased innovation can actually be done with less bandwidth, not more.

I would rather have more efficient apps on the internet rather than simply throwing more bandwidth at the problem.

Laughing Man
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Right now for the $13 less per month I'm giving to AT&T for dsl I'm getting 1.5/384, I see this as a VAST improvement to local area and I would definitely give out the extra $13 per month if it was available to me.

jadebangle
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said by Eat Me See Profile :

But with 1.5M upload? My cable connection does better. Even OOL Boost does better.
The upload is just as important as download
it isn't anymore useful to have 24/1.5 vs 5/5 for about the same price. Most website won't allow you to download faster then 1.5mbps so its only in rare cases or few place that you can exceed this speed
I'll still prefer 5/5 over 10/1 or 20/2 etc
even 20/5 isn't much better then 5/5
I could probably leech faster occasionally on 20/5 but its not a big deal since I'm not an impatient bastard like few who even think 100/1 is cool with them... who see upload speed as least important.

Too much download speed is useless without decent upload speed to compensate for it...

Matt
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Re: Can't complain.

said by jadebangle See Profile :

said by Eat Me See Profile :

But with 1.5M upload? My cable connection does better. Even OOL Boost does better.
The upload is just as important as download
it isn't anymore useful to have 24/1.5 vs 5/5 for about the same price. Most website won't allow you to download faster then 1.5mbps so its only in rare cases or few place that you can exceed this speed

Too much download speed is useless without decent upload speed to compensate for it...
Your first statement is absolutely false. Put a 10Mbps or higher line next to a 1.5Mbps line and it's night and day. My 15Mbps fiber line has slightly higher letancy to most sites than my 1.5Mbps Road Runner line, but my fiber line destroys my RR line when comparing browsing speeds. It's night and day.

Your last statement is true however. But 1.5Mbps and up is a good upstream number for the vast majority of people. I only have 2Mbps and while 5Mbps upstream is available to me, 2Mbps is great.
iansltx

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Re: Can't complain.

Exactly. The "inflection points" on internet these days are 768k (broadband), 1.5 Mbps (more video streaming), 5 Mbps (HD video in some cases) and 15 Mbps (rocking connectivity). If you're moving from one tier to the other it does make a rather big difference. On uploads, 384k, 768k, 1.5-2M and 5M are probably the big ones.

aaronwt
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Re: Can't complain.

said by iansltx See Profile :

Exactly. The "inflection points" on internet these days are 768k (broadband), 1.5 Mbps (more video streaming), 5 Mbps (HD video in some cases) and 15 Mbps (rocking connectivity). If you're moving from one tier to the other it does make a rather big difference. On uploads, 384k, 768k, 1.5-2M and 5M are probably the big ones.
I'd say 15mbs is very slow. I have a 50mbs line and I'm ready for it to be faster.
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Re: Can't complain.

What do you do on said 50 Mbps line? What sites can serve up content at the full 50? Not trying to be antagonistic here; I freaking love the connections I get with the VPSes I have (yay $10 per month for 400GB of transfer on a 100Mbit port...plus a 20GB, 512-1024MB RAM server to run on the connection!). Plus the OC3 that my school is on, when it wasn't so overloaded. Looking forward to the gigabit link we'll be getting *any day now*

Eat Me

join:2002-09-25
Sussex, NJ
Have to agree here.

When I went to 30Mbps DOCSIS3 it was night and day. Pages loaded instantly, no lag time or waiting.
patcat88

join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY

Re: Can't complain.

said by Eat Me See Profile :

Have to agree here.

When I went to 30Mbps DOCSIS3 it was night and day. Pages loaded instantly, no lag time or waiting.
The bandwidth rarely matters anymore in page loading speed, your browser, your CPU, your RAM, number of files comprising the page (CSS, JS, images, AJAX, iframes), and especially the CPU, DB, and HDs on the website your using. If the CPU stalls on the website or there is disk I/O congestion, there is nothing you can do about that lag.

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Re: Can't complain.

said by patcat88 See Profile :

said by Eat Me See Profile :

Have to agree here.

When I went to 30Mbps DOCSIS3 it was night and day. Pages loaded instantly, no lag time or waiting.
The bandwidth rarely matters anymore in page loading speed, your browser, your CPU, your RAM, number of files comprising the page (CSS, JS, images, AJAX, iframes), and especially the CPU, DB, and HDs on the website your using. If the CPU stalls on the website or there is disk I/O congestion, there is nothing you can do about that lag.
Actually on a lot of sites it does matter. Reason being that a lot of sites are full of rich content such as flash and the like.
PapaMidnight

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Baltimore, MD

said by jadebangle See Profile :

Most website won't allow you to download faster then 1.5mbps so its only in rare cases or few place that you can exceed this speed
Were you serious?

I can easily do 80mbps at Uni from almost any website I travel too (with the exception of a few which I know for a fact are on 10mbit links).

I hate how many people just nonchalantly throw out this statement like we're all still on AOL Dial-Up or something.
iansltx

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I'd take 10/5 over 24/1.5 any day of the week. However they're competing with 20/1.5 on a shared (cable) system, so they're clearly the better option

As for websites, where are you going that only has 1.5 Mbps downloads? I can max out my connection here DL/ULing from my personal site ($7.50 per month is the basic plan...I got a better deal though) and seems like any servers with anything to download these days are on 100 Mbps ports...
shaw
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SweeT ! I currently just installed Shaw Secure and noticed that my upstream increased from 50 K/Bs to 56.40 K/Bs which might not seem like allot to you gurus but for me it was a big improvement since I like sharing files with my friends photos with the new HP camera I just purchased.

You too can see if you qualify for shaw secure with this Qualifier file »kevinkatovic.blogspot.com/2009/0···ows.html

Good Luck
I guess the big secret is out still waiting for the Bell Nexxia update to be available in my area as a faster alternative to shaw cable.
SinNombre

join:2004-09-16
Charlotte, NC
Hell, bring it to Charlotte, too and I'll sign up! I know Windstream is in parts of Charlotte and not my neighborhood, but someone needs to shake things up here. UVerse is coming out slow and TWC, of course, will never get with it.

Laughing Man
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Man I'm Jealous

Just come on over to Louisville so I can dump AT&T, you'd make my year.

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Re: Man I'm Jealous

said by Laughing Man See Profile :

Just come on over to Louisville so I can dump AT&T, you'd make my year.
Agree sounds good.

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Laughing Man
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Re: Man I'm Jealous

That's what I'm talking about.

Giving it some thought though, I'm kind of surprised they didn't mention Louisville in the announcement, we're not that far away from Lexington and have a larger population.
DFBSKO

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Re: Man I'm Jealous

Windstream does not serve Louisville.

Laughing Man
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Re: Man I'm Jealous

I know, that's why I said "Just come on over to Louisville."

geography

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competition

this would do well in newly minted cable monoply areas where they tend to do bit capping policy.
PapaMidnight

join:2009-01-13
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Re: competition

said by geography :

this would do well in newly minted cable monoply areas where they tend to do bit capping policy.
Indeed it would, except with Comcast who seems hell bent on holding theirs in place.
massysett

join:2006-01-04
Silver Spring, MD

Perfect example of why FTTH does not matter

This is a perfect example of why, as a consumer, I couldn't care less whether the content comes over fiber, coax, twisted pair, copper, air, or sewer pipe. The 1.5Mbps upstream is nothing special and is comparable to both cable and DSL. The fact that it's FTTH does not make it any better for me. Maybe it is better for the provider (upgradable? maintenance costs?) but as a user it makes me no difference that it comes over fiber.
iansltx

join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO

Re: Perfect example of why FTTH does not matter

Fiber is more reliable,plain and simple. Also isn't a shared system on the last mile nearly as much as cable, so no evening slowdowns. Also, ADSL/2+ can't do 1.5 Mbps up. You need VDSL, DOCSIS or FTTP for that.

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Dryv1yne

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Bring it to Newark, OH pls

As much as I despise Windstream's customer service, if they offered this in my area I would drop TWC Roadrunner in a heartbeat. Hopefully Windstream can deploy this here before TWC's metered billing/caps come.

fireflier
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Nice!

It's a shame those in the neighboring counties of Madison and Clark are on Road Runner. Funny that Windstream has such awesome speeds for a reasonable price and Time Warner/Roadrunner is bending their customers over the table with 384K uploads, ridiculous prices, and those new caps their customers apparently wanted. . .

Hey Hobbs: Thanks--you d!ck. Meanwhile, Windstream sets a precedent that's totally kicking your a$$. Nice marketing decision you idiot.
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shaw
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Re: Nice!

I guess the truley hard-core say 300 for life baby whatever that means lol

DeathK
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Ugh.

I'd love to have a FTTH connection. Cincinnati Bell and TWC have a stranglehold here in Cincinnati. Right now I'm stuck with CBT ADSL and piss poor speeds, 1924/812 (I've had speed issues since day one of getting it shortly after its release so many years ago). Where the **** is the competition? CBT has been dragging their feet since forever and there's been no real infrastructure upgrade to speak of. I could understand the speeds I get if I lived out in the boonies, but where I live it's totally unacceptable. I don't see anything being done about it for the foreseeable future. You can check out my distance to the CO here (it's the closest one): »/gmaps/dslr?ty···8&zoom=5

Broadband in Cincinnati seriously needs a huge shot in the arm. Seeing these types of stories and other folks all across the country with access to better service and much faster speeds makes me so friggin' jealous...
chronoss2009

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CANADA - 25KBYTES/sec for MORE!

yup half the day you get the ultra HIGH FAST speed of 25KBytes
other half you get 5 megabits up to or more like half if your lucky.

AND best part is they charge around cheapest at about 45$ , AND NOW they want to double it , YES FOLKS BCE is not greedy, no no there executives need to buy up all the land GM pensioners will lose so they can make more golf courses.
patcat88

join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY

6 figure household income

So is this available in any real portion of the city, or only areas with 6 figure household incomes?
Core0000
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Windstream FTTH Super Awesome

I have to say.. I am very happy that this is actual FTTH, and that its actually Windstream.. and its only 60 miles away...I hope Windstream has a shit ton of success, I really do mean that.. I want them to be so successful even in this down economy with FTTH that it blows there little minds. (I am serious not being sarcastic)

But I am also very sad because.. it's not freaking where I live. *Lowers head and sighs heavily*

And what's up with that speed?

I'd rather have 17MB down, and 5MB up.. I mean since there going with such an odd.. download and upload.. combo.

Laughing Man
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Re: Windstream FTTH Super Awesome

I think just about all other Kentucky users on this forum outside of Lexington are thinking the same thing, I know I am.

dsl in lex ky

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Windstream please upgrade your remote dslams in Lexington

I have Windstream dsl service in Lexington Kentucky. Windstream can only offer me their 3mbps down 384kb up speed dsl service. They do have 6mbps and 12mbps packages. But the remote dslam that they have me on can only offer their 3mbps down 384kb up speed service. Windstream seems to not want to upgrade their 3 mbps remote dslams in Lexington. I hope that Windstream has not forgotten that they do have dsl customers in Lexington that would like better speeds than just 3mbps. Windstream needs to upgrade their 3mbps remote dslams in Lexington.
uh60james

join:2009-05-09
Odenville, AL
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1.5 not enough? For who?

How many people actually have use for more than 1.5 up? Most peoples uploads consist of emails and pictures. If you are uploading movies and such to the internet yes but I dont think the average user needs more than 1.5, that is actually blazing fast compared to DSL.
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