Will 'Three Strikes' Come To The United States?Magic eight ball says: probably, yes. 06:26PM Thursday Nov 05 2009 by Karl Bodetags: legal · Fileswapping · business · worldThe entertainment industry would really like ISPs to play content police, booting P2P users from their networks. But given ISPs don't want to take on the added expense and liability for an effort that might not work anyway, the entertainment industry will try to pass laws forcing them to. While such "three strikes" laws have seen more luck in France and the UK than here, it seems like only a matter of time before they take root. Wired News points out how the MPAA wrote a letter to the FCC this week urging Congress to take action: "Working in cooperation with ISPs, MPAA’s member studios and other creators can utilize a variety of technological tools and policy approaches to address the threat of unlawful conduct online,” reads the MPAA’s letter. “These efforts, which include graduated response policies as well as technologies such as watermarking and filtering, have proven to be successful in various contexts,” the group continues. Which "various contexts" aren't cited but should be, given most instances of filtering and watermarking have proven to be abject failures in stopping piracy. As Wired notes, while the entertainment industry has pushed for Internet filters for some time, this is the first time that Hollywood has specifically started pushing for booting people off the Internet. It's likely that if the RIAA and MPAA can't pay Congress enough to create the laws, they're likely slip them through via the behind-closed-doors ACTA International trade agreement. This is assuming ISPs don't ultimately decide to employ "graduated response" systems voluntarily. Cox Communications already employs a system whereby heavy P2P users are booted from the network, though Cox insists that they only terminate a tiny number of overall subscriber connections, and after ample warning. But such voluntary efforts certainly don't go as far as the entertainment industry would like, given there's nothing stopping a Cox user from migrating to another ISP (assuming they have one to choose from).
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| Magic Eight Ball My magic eight ball says...
The more stupid that the content producers get through their masquerading organizations, MPAA/RIAA, the less I will buy.
The Senator or Representative who votes in favor of this, gets a nay vote from me next time around.
If my ISP starts voluntarily spying and cooperating on an endeavor such as this, and the ISP next door doesn't, guess what happens...
Does this mean I am downloading illegal music, tv shows, movies, etc? No. Just, enough is enough... | |
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1 edit | Re: Magic Eight Ball I agree. With this, what's stopping the entertainment from making every country install "The Great Firewall" into every ISPs network?
..and pretty much kiss all your freedom goodbye. If you say something or do something, it'll be logged and your connection might be terminated.
Would anyone like to take the Constitution to the shredder soon?
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right here | Re: Magic Eight Ball Well, it's just a piece of paper anyway! | |
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1 edit | because when 600 milion people clue in that they cant do anyhting for 75$ a month they are paying they wont and POOF goes the weasel
then its game over cant spy on that which isnt using anyhting you can spy on can you HAHA
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and cant wait for 3 strikes to hit the usa and all the peeps with grudges to start the home hacking network LOL
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| said by Simba7  :I agree. With this, what's stopping the entertainment from making every country install "The Great Firewall" into every ISPs network? ..and pretty much kiss all your freedom goodbye. If you say something or do something, it'll be logged and your connection might be terminated. Would anyone like to take the Constitution to the shredder soon? we can just encrypt everything problem solved | |
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| how about if they are caught accusing somebody and they are found innocent, the suing party has to PAY for that persons internet service for LIFE! Its the ultimate penalty for these lobbyist toolbags... you want to accuse the innocent, then pay the price... | |
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| Re: Magic Eight Ball said by GolfDude :how about if they are caught accusing somebody and they are found innocent, the suing party has to PAY for that persons internet service for LIFE! Its the ultimate penalty for these lobbyist toolbags... you want to accuse the innocent, then pay the price... It would be rare enough that, at $1200/year for 60 years (would take most post-college age people into their 80s), that's peanuts (less than $100K). They'd easily agree to that. Even if you add in "legal expenses" to the settlement, it's still peanuts.
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| I just wanted to also say here that if 'I went into some grocery store and stole some food I would not be banned from going into every grocery store.I might be told and probably would be trold to leave the store I tole from and they may even say you can not come in.
With this krap law once you get the 3 strikes you will not be connected again.What kingd of BS is that anyways ???
Screw you MPAA,RIAA, and all your stooge studios and artists.
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| mpaa are idiots They are trying to take away our freedoms and rights. If it passes it will show how corrupt the government is and how its really run by corporations. Mpaa has no right to disconnect anyone, they are just a company. | |
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| How logn be this become a DDoS tool. How logn be this become a DDoS tool?
used to shut down bad reviews of just about any thing.
What happens when some big people get shut off with no court order.
Also going to far may end of having the first amendment being used to say that this law is unconstitutional.
Used to by pass count orders to open stuff up.
Brake Americans with Disabilities Act laws buy locking out blind from books and other stuff. | |
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| Encryption All this will do is make the P2P crowd switche (entirely) to encrypted connections. Just look at the spooks response to this in the UK a couple of weeks ago. They considered it to be a threat to national security as it will dramatically increase the number of encrypted transmissions they have to sort through. | |
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Billings, MT | Re: Encryption Heck, I'd be willing to snag up an OC3 (or higher) and run a series of VPN servers for people to keep their privacy.
I wonder how much it would cost. | |
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| Re: Encryption said by Simba7 :Heck, I'd be willing to snag up an OC3 (or higher) and run a series of VPN servers for people to keep their privacy. I wonder how much it would cost. More than you make in an entire year, and they'd just shut down your upstream provider if you don't respond to the requests.
And Bittorrent encryption won't do any good, because everything still has to be unencrypted at some point. If you can download something, your provider can see exactly what it is. | |
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| Re: Encryption Umm, no, that's not true. If you download a torrent file from an HTTPS site, and you've set your torrent client to encrypt, the ONLY thing they will see is encrypted data. At no point is the torrent file, or the torrent data unencrypted. Guess what, I predict most torrent sites will start to go to HTTPS, and force encryption for their files. The ONLY reason they don't do it now, is that the server load for an encrypted connection is so much heavier than clear text, it would overwhelm most torrent sites CPU's.
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| Re: Encryption said by karlmarx :Umm, no, that's not true. If you download a torrent file from an HTTPS site, and you've set your torrent client to encrypt, the ONLY thing they will see is encrypted data. At no point is the torrent file, or the torrent data unencrypted. Guess what, I predict most torrent sites will start to go to HTTPS, and force encryption for their files. The ONLY reason they don't do it now, is that the server load for an encrypted connection is so much heavier than clear text, it would overwhelm most torrent sites CPU's. You're right, SSL would solve a large portion of the problem but is brutal on a web server's CPU. (My wimpy web server can serve 1500 requests a second, but only 56 using SSL.) However, your ISP sits in between you and that site, so they could very easily use any number of techniques to decrypt your SSL traffic. If torrent sites move to SSL, don't be surprised to see Arbor Networks/Sandvine offer a product that does just that. It can be very easily automated also because the initial request to www.torrentsite.com has to go unencrypted before the SSL session is established.
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| Re: Encryption Umm, you aren't familiar with SSL are you? Unless they use a Man in the Middle (which, btw, generally DOESN'T work. Man in the middle CAN work with a Simple TLS handshake, but never works with a client-authenticated handshake (simply because the client only sends it's public key, which is worthless). However, having said that, I'm 99% sure than any device built to act as a man in the middle would run into several problems, the least of which it would need to be a quantum level CPU to handle the traffic, it most definitely breaks the 4th amendment, and the only thing they would capture on the 'initial' connection to 'torrentsite.com' is the request for encryption, AND they would need to know the address of 'torrent-site.com' before they could even start to do it. There are many reasons I don't think it's realistic for them to monitor encrypted traffic is that encryption is a pretty mature technology already, and anything they could come up with would VERY QUICKLY be defeated by programmers. Remember the golden rule, "information wants to be free", and anything that interferes with that (like said 'decryption device" would be instantly routed around by, lets see, umm, millions of people.
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| Re: Encryption There are SSL man-in-the-middle attacks out right now.
Encryption is not the answer and you're mistaken in thinking they'll need to crack the encryption or need any sort of quantum processor to handle the traffic. They route all that traffic now just fine. Once the SSL session is compromised, they don't have to do anything but siphon the traffic off as it passes through their routers. 4th amendment rules wouldn't apply either, as the 4th Amendment protects you from the government, not a private entity. In other words, it's the ISP's network and they can do as they please. Don't like it? Switch to an ISP with different policies.
If you want a good primer and a fun read on encryption, the history of cryptography, and how many of the older encryption ciphers were broken (hint: not with brute force) I suggest you pick up Crypto: How the Code Rebels Beat the Government Saving Privacy in the Digital Age. It's a great read that is only mildly technical. I highly enjoyed it.
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| Re: Encryption said by Matt :There are SSL man-in-the-middle attacks out right now. Encryption is not the answer and you're mistaken in thinking they'll need to crack the encryption or need any sort of quantum processor to handle the traffic. They route all that traffic now just fine. Once the SSL session is compromised, they don't have to do anything but siphon the traffic off as it passes through their routers. 4th amendment rules wouldn't apply either, as the 4th Amendment protects you from the government, not a private entity. In other words, it's the ISP's network and they can do as they please. Don't like it? Switch to an ISP with different policies. And the IRS (among other agencies) and the banking, healthcare, retail and other industries that RELY on trusted communications would kill it, plain and simple. The *AAs only have so much money. If even just the banking industry were against such man-in-the-middle tampering, the *AAs will be left out in the cold (think 0°K cold). The *AAs (and, probably most "intellectual property" holders or consortiums) really don't have even a reasonable fraction of what the banking industry could bring to bear. There's a reason that TARP happened.
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| Re: Encryption said by nixen :said by Matt :There are SSL man-in-the-middle attacks out right now. Encryption is not the answer and you're mistaken in thinking they'll need to crack the encryption or need any sort of quantum processor to handle the traffic. They route all that traffic now just fine. Once the SSL session is compromised, they don't have to do anything but siphon the traffic off as it passes through their routers. 4th amendment rules wouldn't apply either, as the 4th Amendment protects you from the government, not a private entity. In other words, it's the ISP's network and they can do as they please. Don't like it? Switch to an ISP with different policies. And the IRS (among other agencies) and the banking, healthcare, retail and other industries that RELY on trusted communications would kill it, plain and simple. The *AAs only have so much money. If even just the banking industry were against such man-in-the-middle tampering, the *AAs will be left out in the cold (think 0°K cold). The *AAs (and, probably most "intellectual property" holders or consortiums) really don't have even a reasonable fraction of what the banking industry could bring to bear. There's a reason that TARP happened. Unfortunately, I'm not as optimistic as you. The government is going to do what the government wants, to say nothing of the little problem of encrypted communication related to terrorism.
Giving in and saying, "Hell, we'll just encrypt everything!" is not the answer. It's the easy answer, but it won't solve anything.
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| Re: Encryption said by Matt :Unfortunately, I'm not as optimistic as you. The government is going to do what the government wants, to say nothing of the little problem of encrypted communication related to terrorism. Simply put, "money talks". The organizations with the most money control the relevant laws. The *AAs are chump-change against what a number of other industries can bring to bear.
Imagine the impact on the trading houses if all the remote traders won't trade any more because their connections aren't confidential. Imagine the impact on simple banks if all of their internet-facing websites systematically can't be used confidentially?
Hell depending on the wording/requirements, whoever I, as a bank (or other industry that legally requires confidentiality - think HIPAA, here), get my connectivity from might be required to monitor my "private" channels (VPNs, WANs, etc.) I use to talk to DR sites, B2B connections, etc.
One also assumes that only HTTP will be effected or that channels other than HTTP wouldn't come into use. It leaves a "man-in-the-middle" ISP having to inspect and *try* to rip apart every byte of traffic, each of which might be using any number of technologies or protocols to protect their traffic. That's one fuckton of hardware you gotta have to be able to properly intercept and crack it all.
said by Matt :Giving in and saying, "Hell, we'll just encrypt everything!" is not the answer. It's the easy answer, but it won't solve anything. True, but encryption isn't nearly as much of a hit as it used to be. Many of the really beefy newer CPUs include encryption accelerators. Even those that don't can get them through expansion boards. It's definitely a lot better a solution than typical OS-level encryption (think software RAID vs. hardware RAID).
Such hardware is only going to get more common and more powerful. It has to, because it won't be much more than a couple years before password-based authentication has been rendered completely pointless. The replacement technologies pretty much all require greater processing power to implement.
Think of the power of bot nets. If significant portions of the ISP's customer nodes are encrypting, you're going to be in an arms race you can't possibly win. Part of why intelligence agencies tend to be against these types of legal efforts is that it makes their jobs harder. Right now, only a small percentage of the traffic they sift is encrypted. Laws like this would cause a non-trivial increase in encrypted traffic. This would significantly impact their operational capability.
There's just a lot that goes against wide-scale interception being workable.
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The only way what you speak of will work is if its a physical MIM technique, and even then, those are very sophisticated and would be a government agency, or government sponsored civilian front company to pull it off. I don't care how many books you've read about it. As a matter of a fact, I'll bet ya! I'll escrow $1000.00 right now for a demonstration of someone pulling it off (and not alerting the browser). Hell, there have been much higher bounties than a grand for it, millions. | |
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1 edit | Re: Encryption said by specops :
Matt,
The only way what you speak of will work is if its a physical MIM technique, and even then, those are very sophisticated and would be a government agency, or government sponsored civilian front company to pull it off. I don't care how many books you've read about it. As a matter of a fact, I'll bet ya! I'll escrow $1000.00 right now for a demonstration of someone pulling it off (and not alerting the browser). Hell, there have been much higher bounties than a grand for it, millions.
That's exactly what I'm talking about. I'm referring to direct ISP involvement here, not some arbitrary 3rd party who wants to snoop on your traffic. Comcast is already doing DPI using Sandvine, so I'm sure those guys are smart enough to figure out a way to snoop on SSL traffic since they control everything from you to the internet.
As far as it requiring some huge governmental agency, there's a publicly available java MITM SSL proxy anyone can download right now. »crypto.stanford.edu/ssl-mitm/
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| Re: Encryption said by Matt :said by specops :
Matt,
The only way what you speak of will work is if its a physical MIM technique, and even then, those are very sophisticated and would be a government agency, or government sponsored civilian front company to pull it off. I don't care how many books you've read about it. As a matter of a fact, I'll bet ya! I'll escrow $1000.00 right now for a demonstration of someone pulling it off (and not alerting the browser). Hell, there have been much higher bounties than a grand for it, millions.
That's exactly what I'm talking about. I'm referring to direct ISP involvement here, not some arbitrary 3rd party who wants to snoop on your traffic. Comcast is already doing DPI using Sandvine, so I'm sure those guys are smart enough to figure out a way to snoop on SSL traffic since they control everything from you to the internet. As far as it requiring some huge governmental agency, there's a publicly available java MITM SSL proxy anyone can download right now. » crypto.stanford.edu/ssl-mitm/ Did you miss the whole part here:
"Once the proxy server is started, your web browser will need to be configured to make use of an SSL proxy, with the same host/port as above. Note that unless the proxy's certificate is imported into your browser CA certificate store, you will see warnings about untrusted server certificates."
on that page? I suppose if you ignore the warnings, then yes, you can be MITMed...
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| Re: Encryption said by jp10558 :said by Matt :said by specops :
Matt,
The only way what you speak of will work is if its a physical MIM technique, and even then, those are very sophisticated and would be a government agency, or government sponsored civilian front company to pull it off. I don't care how many books you've read about it. As a matter of a fact, I'll bet ya! I'll escrow $1000.00 right now for a demonstration of someone pulling it off (and not alerting the browser). Hell, there have been much higher bounties than a grand for it, millions.
That's exactly what I'm talking about. I'm referring to direct ISP involvement here, not some arbitrary 3rd party who wants to snoop on your traffic. Comcast is already doing DPI using Sandvine, so I'm sure those guys are smart enough to figure out a way to snoop on SSL traffic since they control everything from you to the internet. As far as it requiring some huge governmental agency, there's a publicly available java MITM SSL proxy anyone can download right now. » crypto.stanford.edu/ssl-mitm/ Did you miss the whole part here: "Once the proxy server is started, your web browser will need to be configured to make use of an SSL proxy, with the same host/port as above. Note that unless the proxy's certificate is imported into your browser CA certificate store, you will see warnings about untrusted server certificates." on that page? I suppose if you ignore the warnings, then yes, you can be MITMed... Because there is no way your ISP can direct your traffic wherever they want is there? No ISPs have every used proxy servers in the past?
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1 edit | said by Matt :said by karlmarx :Umm, no, that's not true. If you download a torrent file from an HTTPS site, and you've set your torrent client to encrypt, the ONLY thing they will see is encrypted data. At no point is the torrent file, or the torrent data unencrypted. Guess what, I predict most torrent sites will start to go to HTTPS, and force encryption for their files. The ONLY reason they don't do it now, is that the server load for an encrypted connection is so much heavier than clear text, it would overwhelm most torrent sites CPU's. You're right, SSL would solve a large portion of the problem but is brutal on a web server's CPU. (My wimpy web server can serve 1500 requests a second, but only 56 using SSL.) However, your ISP sits in between you and that site, so they could very easily use any number of techniques to decrypt your SSL traffic. If torrent sites move to SSL, don't be surprised to see Arbor Networks/Sandvine offer a product that does just that. It can be very easily automated also because the initial request to www.torrentsite.com has to go unencrypted before the SSL session is established.
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| Encryption is irrelevant in this situation. The ISPs and the content industry (RIAA, MPAA) do not detect copyright infringement by eavesdropping on your content. They don't need to.
By definition, with a P2P protocol, you're connecting to other users. To do so, you need to be able to identify those other users.
The MPAA/RIAA simply connects to the tracker (or to the DHT network, if you're using it) and asks for a list of peers, just like anyone else who is downloading does. This gives them your IP address, which they can use to determine your ISP and initiate a lawsuit (or, with three strikes, demand that your ISP send you a warning and/or disconnect you).
There are some ways to mitigate this risk:
- Use a private tracker. If you can ensure that no agent of the RIAA/MPAA connects, this provides good protection along with encryption. But, realistically, it's likely that someone from the MPAA/RIAA will be able to get into your privite tracker, unless your membership is seriously restricted.
- Redesign trackers to only give a small subset of hosts out, for example, 10 or 20. It's also important that the tracker give the same 10 or 20 hosts out with subsequent requests from the same IP. This limits the number of users that the RIAA/MPAA can discover for each IP address that they have, but it also makes the network less efficient.
- Use an anonymous P2P service. These systems use onion routing or another technique (usually involving multiple layers of encryption) to make it difficult to determine where the traffic originated from. The problem is that the RIAA/MPAA could argue that all of the users in the chain (including the node that the RIAA/MPAA connects to) are guilty of copyright infringement, and since they need to know the IP address of at least one of the people in the chain, this doesn't really help.
- VPNs help because they obscure your IP address, but the problem is that the VPN provider is now the target. | |
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| Re: Encryption said by bsoft :- VPNs help because they obscure your IP address, but the problem is that the VPN provider is now the target. I wonder if using VPN providers in other countries wouldn't make this much harder to target? That is, you could use a VPN provider in a country that would be resistant to a US (or your country) content provider lawsuit...
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| Re: Lose alot of their paying customers??? said by r81984 :I doubt this would ever happen since they will start losing paying customers and it will hurt their profits. I just can't see how there will be a specific law that says you cannot get internet. Anyways all a law like this would do is create a booming business for foreign VPN services. It will happen thru the ACTA treaty. And there won't need to be a specific law. Just like the WTO rules supersede national laws, the ACTA will supersede national laws. Welcome to the new world order where international treaties take away US sovereignty and the Constitution is gutted thru US ok'ing these treaties.
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| Re: Lose alot of their paying customers??? said by TKJunkMail :said by r81984 :I doubt this would ever happen since they will start losing paying customers and it will hurt their profits. I just can't see how there will be a specific law that says you cannot get internet. Anyways all a law like this would do is create a booming business for foreign VPN services. It will happen thru the ACTA treaty. And there won't need to be a specific law. Just like the WTO rules supersede national laws, the ACTA will supersede national laws. Welcome to the new world order where international treaties take away US sovereignty and the Constitution is gutted thru US ok'ing these treaties. Actually, a favorable Constitutional review would void the US's participation in the treaty. Signing treaties is a legal action that has to occur within the legal constructs of the US legal system. Such a review could easily cause the treaty provisions to be voided on numerous grounds. Granted, that assumes that the Supreme Court is actually doing their job, and not running around with the *AAs (and other ACTA pimps) hands up their asses.
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| The question is.. Where?
One thing ACTA is set to do is make it worldwide. The only way you could pull it off is find a country with a huge internet backbone (what won't get cut off) and a strong backbone against the entertainment industry.
There's only 1 organization that pulled this off, but too bad the MPAA/RIAA changed the laws in said country and got them (soon to be) booted off.
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crese24
join:2007-12-27 | Lets all cancel our ISPs If this comes to pass, why don't we all just say "bye bye, to the internet?" ISPs will drop like flies. MPAA is trying to hurt ISPs too, not just us common folk. | |
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brianiscool
join:2000-08-16
Miami, FL | cool I hope it does will scare away the newbs. lol | |
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Matt
Take me down to the paradise city
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join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
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| Much ado about nothing ... yet So far all this uproar is based on a conversation that a US Trade official had with an EU official. There are no documents from the US proving any of this.
»www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/1···ndering/
The leaked document is a three-page European Commission memo written by an unnamed EU official, which purports to summarizes a private briefing given in September by U.S. trade officials.
That's an afwul lot of uncertainty for the sky to be falling. | |
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gorehound
join:2009-06-19
Portland, ME
| Boycott Hollywood,MPAA, and RIAA Join me in my boycott of the greedbag industry many of us are really disliking.To say you dislike this industry and not do anything about it is a shame.These industries exist by us spending money.No money equals no industry.Let us send some kind of strong message too them as their are billions of us on this planet and many will be pissed off.
This is what I have personally been doing for some time now.It is working for me......maybe for you too.
1.I buy no RIAA/Corporate Label music or any artist who signs with the RIAA.also any other RIAA type organization.
2.When buying music I buy local artists first then Indie/Small Label artists.There are thousands and thousands of good artists out there who have nothing to do with greedbags.My art is all free and I give you around 6 albums worth at mostly 320k mp3 so do a lot of other cool artists.Mt site if you like punk rock and 60's garage is www.bigmeathammer.com
3.I refuse to buy any new movies from any of the large studios/MPAA.I am done with feeding their greed and they will now never get a dime out of me.
4.Of course I do like films so I buy my greeedbag films all used.First I try and buy used local and if not there on EBAY or Amazon.Buying used ensures that greeedbag gets zero dollars from me and I get the film to watch.
5.I buy new films too but only Indie/Small filmmakers all over the world.
6.I will buy new TV Show Boxsets so I can give my support to the shows I love.
I am doing these things because I am not a pirate.I work in a videostore as the right hand man to my friend and have worked there for 16 years.I can get all my films at cost.But even so I will not buy US films new.I also get all the free rentals I want.I am telling you this because I have no reason to go out and download.
My freedom is at risk !!! This type of behavior can only be the beginnning of something worse.I want an open and equal NET.
Screw You Hollywoood and your Stooges. | |
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zachary1
you talkin' to me?
join:2004-03-07
right here | Re: Boycott Hollywood,MPAA, and RIAA Screw the haterz, keep sharing! | |
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join:2009-06-19
Portland, ME | Re: Boycott Hollywood,MPAA, and RIAA I am not a pirate I am looking out for my freedom.I do not want to see big brother come to the net.I do not care about downloading music or films. | |
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join:2009-06-19
Portland, ME | Re: Boycott Hollywood,MPAA, and RIAA Hey Fuck Off Asshoile.I am not a somalian I live in Portland Maine.
My Band is Big Meat Hammer.My website is www.bigmeathammer.com
I AM THE OLDEST PUNK ROCK AND AN ARTIST IN MAINE. | |
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join:2000-10-05
Collegeville, PA | What about four balls? Do we get to walk on four balls? How about the foul tip rule? Hit by pitch? And who is calling balls and strikes anyway? | |
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jmn1207
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join:2000-07-19
Reston, VA
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1 edit | Re: What about four balls? said by russotto :And who is calling balls and strikes anyway? Leslie Nielsen. | |
| optemino
join:2009-10-13
Patterson, CA | what the F*#& this is not cool, entertainment is nice and all... but to implement something like that would be HORRIBLE!! i understand net neutrality control of broadband networks, but not the blocking of content or booting people off connection, that's absurd | |
| chronoss2009
join:2008-09-23 | is the usa actually communist sees to me the style of laws and style of governing and how htey let hollywood do what they want woprld wise is about same as soviet style communism
DAMN COMMIES | |
| zipjay
join:2003-03-11
Louisville, KY
| so if you live in an apartment with 3 other roommates... You have 12 chances to not get caught... simply get the net in someone elses name.. oh and lets not forget grandmas name, aunt, uncle, 2nd cousin, your kids name, ex girlfriend, the list goes on and on.. so as long as u know enough people you could have infinate chances.. and if its 3 PER ISP then oh boy | |
| Kearnstd
Elf Wizard
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join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ
| dont forget false positives i mean data is data and we know mistakes happen with ALL filters and they will always happen no matter what. if a legit torrent throws up flags odds are the content goons wont care they will want strike 1 thrown.
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xdeadhead
220, 221, Whatever It Takes.
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join:2000-11-08
Mechanicsburg, PA
·Verizon FIOS
·Comcast
| congress passes laws... the riaa and mpaa can only throw money at them via lobbyists to try and influence those votes. since their business model is in the toilet, expect them to throw every last cent at this. this is precisely why we need term limits; so the business interests cannot influence old congressmen and women with FUD. adapt or die, mpaa and riaa. i say, good riddance. | |
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pwrtoppl
C-C-C-Combo Breaker
join:2008-11-21
Broomfield, CO
clubs: | enter a new era filtering p2p content? lets see when they do that to a black box network
hell, i think a vpn connection would work too
filter that
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fightback
@optonline.net
| stop buying cable-tv! you really want to hurt the mpaa, stop buying cable-tv.. that's right, cut off the mpaa's 3rd tier revenue stream! they make tons of money off of licensing content for cable-tv and you can hurt them back by not subscribing to it. by saving this money now, you will have saved up a warchest to shop around to another ISP when the times comes and if necessary even pay higher fees associated with telco or 3rd party provider broadband! | |
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no1important
@rr.com | its a no win no matter what they do they will never stop people from p2ping. encryption is the key, the fed hates the fact that its available to the public. the CIA tried many times before to outlaw it in the past for general public use. | |
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Senate wil approve ACTA treaty when it is finished
