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Premium,Mod
join:2001-01-26
Algonquin, IL | YAY! Now I can finally leave my Faraday Cage.
Beware the Daystar! | |
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Rogue Wolf
Ate The Last Of The Pumpkin Pie
join:2003-08-12
Troy, NY | OR.... ...you can spend the money on a skilled IT tech to secure your network. Your choice. | |
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 | keyboard5684
join:2001-08-01
Youngsville, PA
 ·Teliax VOIP
 ·WestPAnet Inc.
 ·WestPAnet Inc. CA..
| Re: OR.... Well, you can try and try but even the best admin can have trouble securing a wireless network.
Enable WEP and someone can still listen and grab the key (or keys). Enable MAC filtering and someone can capture the valid ones and use those. Don't enable DHCP, that can be figured out too.
If you have some stuff to risk do not use wireless networks and guard your wired one. | |
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RayW
Premium
join:2001-09-01
Layton, UT
clubs:
 ·XMission
| BAE ? Hope this works better than the latest thing we are working on that came from them.
But it is a good concept, and if it is truly frequency selective that would be good for many places.
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I am not lost, I find myself every time. | |
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Nerdtalker
Working Hard, Or Hardly Working?
Premium,MVM
join:2003-02-18
Tucson, AZ
clubs:
| Re: BAE ? It'll probably impede phone at 2.4Ghz as well...
This is so stupid, nobody is going to use it, it'll do nothing, people will remain insecure.
Sheesh, use a directional antenna and adjust the power output for crying out loud...
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Touch a thistle timidly, and it pricks you; grasp it boldly, and its spines crumble. -William S. Halsey | |
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| | RayW
Premium
join:2001-09-01
Layton, UT
clubs:
·XMission
| Re: BAE ? Actually, if it worked I could see my workplace maybe using it. Cells are banned for security reasons, so if it does kill them, so what?.
And Directional antennas are fine, but what about where the beam is pointed? and the side lobes? Mobile devices can not have a beam antenna, otherwise you can not have a truly mobile device what with fiddling around with the pointing instead of walking and working.
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I am not lost, I find myself every time. | |
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| | docutrade
Premium
join:2004-06-08
San Jose, CA | Cat 5 has this handy feature built right in. | |
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bogey780
join:2004-03-19
Here | Wep? Why not just... you know... enable the WEP? | |
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Neil
Stop All The Downloadin
join:2003-08-20
New York, NY | Re: Wep? Why bother, when it's so much easier for some people to just get new wallpaper? | |
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Nerdtalker
Working Hard, Or Hardly Working?
Premium,MVM
join:2003-02-18
Tucson, AZ
clubs: | Because people are scared of "messing with settings"... PFFT...
They scare me. | |
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mooty
join:2001-01-28
Riverdale, GA | I like it like THAT ! eh, do they have it in plad design ? When will it be available at Lowe's or Home Depot ? | |
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jap
Premium
join:2003-08-10
038xx
·RoadRunner Cable
2 edits | I've always wanted to paper my bay window ....
Of all the hairbrained products ...
Anyone with data worth going to these lengths wouldn't be on wireless anyway. And, dslknowitall, praytell what's wrong with properly implemented WEP? Am I to believe that someone's gonna (1)install an undetected keylogger on my laptop, (2)sit around on my front porch (again, undetected) until I happen to, (3)logon (and they happen to successfully trap it), and (4)ditto my MACaddy - then they spoof that on their system, and (5)they logon to my network as me without setting off any alarms (did I forget anything?), and finally (6): steal my astoundingly good concerts collection? The same bad porn they already have? And -no! no!nooo! NOT the credit card number!!
It would be much easier to knock on my door and request an FTP account for the music (granted to all comers for the price of a good beer - in a growler if you want the infringing stuff) and dig through my trash for the CC#. | |
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Rhobite
Premium
join:2002-02-24
Cambridge, MA
clubs:
| Re: I've always wanted to paper my bay window .... Because WEP is always insecure. True it's better than nothing, but anyone can sniff a bunch of WEP traffic and figure out the key. WEP doesn't protect you frm a determined attacker.
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Jimmysquid.com - I take pictures. | |
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| | | Mark Rejhon
join:2004-02-02
Ottawa, ON
·Magma Communications
4 edits | Re: I've always wanted to paper my bay window .... Hi,
There's not enough traffic on my WLAN to break through my WEP in less than 3, probably not even less than 12 months. The password changes more often than that  I never do Internet downloads on my WiFi laptop, just as an occasional cordless surfing/email station.
WEP is not perfect -- but it's actually much safer than you think for home networks on modern access points (2003, 2004). However, if you run file sharing on a wireless computer (KaZaA, for example) then you're much unsafer, since there'll be lots more packets flying around. You need to continually monitor a network for a long time to crack the password, catching vast numbers of packets, in order to get enough information to crack the code.
Maybe in corporate espionage and stuff like that where a secret WEP cracking machine is hidden near a worksite for months... Or some kind of really high tech thief putting a hidden machine near a rich house. There's too many easier targets for them to go after. It's far easier to get your online banking password through many other means, to crack a WEP network. | |
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Rhobite
Premium
join:2002-02-24
Cambridge, MA
clubs:
| Re: I've always wanted to paper my bay window .... I agree. You have to pump a good deal of traffic through your AP in order to have your WEP broken by a passive attacker. But - a lot of people use their wireless connections a lot. I transfer files between my laptop and my desktop, frequently several GB at a time. That's easily enough for someone to break my WEP. Now the likelihood of someone sitting in my driveway sniffing my traffic is low, especially since there are about 25 unprotected APs within a block from me. But I still try to change the key sometimes. Unfortunately WPA won't work on my garbage Netgear card (WG511).
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Jimmysquid.com - I take pictures. | |
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bmn
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Premium,ExMod 2003-06
join:2001-03-15
hiatus
| If that paper stopped cell phone signals... I'd be all over it... First thing I would paper is the classrooms where I have classes. We can't have a single day go by with out a student interrupting the lecture for a call.
As for it blocking Wi-Fi... Considering most people want access in more than one room, how is it suppose to help ? The only way this could be useful is you only want wireless in ONE room (in which case, just run wires) and that room has NO windows...
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Want to annoy conservatives and liberals ? Use facts.
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g3ddylee
join:2002-12-09
Lincoln Park, NJ | Prices? Yes, and how many hundreds of dollars will each panel cost?  | |
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russotto
join:2000-10-05
Collegeville, PA | Don't forget about the floor. It's an interesting idea, but I don't see the market. The real paranoids aren't going to be using wireless in any case, and the less-paranoid aren't going to pay the price. | |
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AnonFromCT
@snet.ne | It will never work Didn't the company think about windows, floors and ceilings. I don't think covering up your walls is going to help. I would recommend placing a big wire mesh around the building. | |
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| Mark Rejhon
join:2004-02-02
Ottawa, ON
·Magma Communications
| Re: It will never work Sometimes you need to even make the existence of a wireless network, a complete secret.
You can still detect encrypted networks, because a computer scanner can detect WiFi-style noise on the 2.4 Ghz band. But if you want radio silence outside a building... | |
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| | blackomegax
join:2003-10-13
Marietta, GA | Re: It will never work eh, the real revolutionary use for this. would be class rooms and movie theaters, and blocking ALL rf...no more fucking damned cellphones in the theater, yaaaaaay. | |
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Comeon
@attbi.com | If it comes in Spongebob, I'm there... Is securing a Wi-Fi network really that difficult? Tried wallpapering lately? Securing the CIA is easier. | |
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