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join:2003-02-16 Lindenhurst, NY | wifi radiation ouch my testicles:p | |
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  R4M0N Brazilian Soccer Ownz Joo
join:2000-10-04 Glen Allen, VA | Don't you just love technology? Now instead of tin foil hats, we will see nuts with their heads painted flat gray.  | |
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 |   hurleyp
join:2000-06-20 Ottawa, ON | Re: Don't you just love technology? Do they sell the paint in left-wall and right-wall versions?  | |
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  Mellow Premium join:2001-11-16 Salisbury, MD
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| gray man group Look out blue man group!
I wonder how much this will be a gallon, because you won't be able to pick this up at your local home depot. I guess if we see alot of gray buildings go up we know whats going on. -- Ocean City, MD Surfing Gallery | |
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 |   zoom314 Superman Premium join:2001-04-30 Yermo, CA
| Re: blue man group vs gray man group said by Mellow :Look out blue man group! I wonder how much this will be a gallon, because you won't be able to pick this up at your local home depot. I guess if we see a lot of gray buildings go up we know what's going on. Oh no now It'll be a Blue vs Grey battle.... Hey didn't we as a country go through this already? ;);) | |
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join:2004-07-20 Pickering, ON | grey You woul probably be able to maybeuse it as like a primer and paint something a little more appealing over the top | |
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  RichRad . Premium join:2001-01-08 united state clubs: | add in paint CRAZY!!! It a paint Additive..... Check out there website at $34.00...
DefendAir Radio Shield Paint Additive $34.00 -- (sorry for any bad grammar/spelling/typos) | |
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 |   The Beer I Love It When A Plan Comes Together Premium join:2001-07-24 Omaha, NE clubs: | Re: add in paint IF IT WORKS...
I would have EASILY paid that at the Credit Card company I use to work at to add security to the office! | |
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 RayW Premium join:2001-09-01 Layton, UT clubs: | Just 2.4 GHz? And the 5 GHz systems are supposedly on the market now. -- I am not lost, I find myself every time. | |
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 |   eperos Premium join:2004-05-02 Brooklyn, NY 1 edit | Re: Just 2.4 GHz? Add a second coat to double the protection. lol | |
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| Re: Just 2.4 GHz? said by eperos :Add a second cote to double the protection. lol Sorry, it does not work that way :/ (well, there MAY be a bit of attenuation, but not blockage) -- I am not lost, I find myself every time. | |
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join:2000-10-04 Glen Allen, VA | Re: Just 2.4 GHz? I think he knows that. Hence the "lol"....  | |
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| Re: Just 2.4 GHz? said by R4M0N :I think he knows that. Hence the "lol".... Never know, a lot of people do not understand the physics of radio waves. My wife did not understand why doubling coats would not provide protection at double the frequency. -- I am not lost, I find myself every time. | |
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| Re: Just 2.4 GHz? maybe you should upgrade to wife2.0 sorry ot lol merry christmas | |
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 |  Samwoo
join:2002-02-15 Rancho Palos Verdes, CA | dont buy 5 ghz wireless equiptment if you want it to have limited range. | |
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 |   Supafly Premium join:2000-07-15 Elk Grove, CA | 5ghz (802.11a) have been on the market for years now. If the company has 802.11a they would be wise to stay away from this. | |
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  Morac
join:2001-08-30 Riverside, NJ | Cancer in a can! Personally I'd rather have my WiFi signal leak out of my house than breathe in little bitty pieces of copper and aluminum. | |
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 |   RDins
@attbi.com | Re: Cancer in a can! Paint the windows also for even better security. | |
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  ifarrell
join:2000-08-10 Willow Spring, NC
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| False Advertising to help prevent outsiders from accessing corporate wireless networks, but let other radio and cell traffic through....it will shield WiFi, WiMax, and Bluetooth networks ranging from 100 MHz to 2.4 GHz. Actually it will prevent Cell Phone usage. If memory serves, most Cell Phones are either about 800MHz or 1.9GHz. Also, it blocks half the commercial FM broadcast frequencies. The only way Cell Phones would work would be with an in building repeater. | |
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 |  cghh
join:2001-01-15 Milpitas, CA
| Re: False Advertising said by ifarrell :to help prevent outsiders from accessing corporate wireless networks, but let other radio and cell traffic through....it will shield WiFi, WiMax, and Bluetooth networks ranging from 100 MHz to 2.4 GHz.Actually it will prevent Cell Phone usage. If memory serves, most Cell Phones are either about 800MHz or 1.9GHz. Also, it blocks half the commercial FM broadcast frequencies. The only way Cell Phones would work would be with an in building repeater. I was wondering about that too. There is no way a screen like that could be tuned to block 2.4GHz WiFi and not 1.9GHz PCS signals. Unless the real market is for businesses who WANT to block cellular/PCS (restaurants, theaters, etc.) | |
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| Re: False Advertising said by cghh : Unless the real market is for businesses who WANT to block cellular/PCS (restaurants, theaters, etc.) Don't forget hotels.  | |
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| said by cghh :Unless the real market is for businesses who WANT to block cellular/PCS (restaurants, theaters, etc.) This makes me think. In a recent article here at BBR, »Churches installing cell phone jammers, people have debated about actually stopping cell phone signals by using jamming devices [which according to some posts in the article, is illegal] but while jamming the signals may be illegal, I don't think using something to block signals is. | |
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  Transmaster Don't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus
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| Oh Great We still have to deal with lead paint now we have paint laced with copper and aluminum too. Wouldn't it be cheaper to do 4 gillion bit encryption. -- Real Men use Vacuum tubes, 25 pound filament transformers, and plate voltages no less then 2400 volts...BPL I'm coming to get you | |
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 |   R4M0N Brazilian Soccer Ownz Joo
join:2000-10-04 Glen Allen, VA | Re: Oh Great With all the stuff that already goes on paint, aluminum and copper are the least of anyone's worries. | |
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  DaDogs Semper Vigilantis Premium join:2004-02-28 Deltaville, VA
| Wont Work! Been there done that (in reverse)...
Two or three years ago I was working on a wave guide design which required me to build the guide of plastic and use paint to cover the plastic and create the wave guide. Went to the local boat store and bought bottom paint. This stuff weighs like five pounds per quart there is so much copper in it.
Guess what... didn't work. Who would have thought that the paint used on the bottoms of boats and which cost about $20.00 per quart, wouldn't form a fine wave guide when applied to the correct diameter of plastic pipe?
Didn't work and unless these dipsticks have done something magical, still doesn't work. -- I'd rather chew sand than watch sixty seconds of 60 minutes. | |
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join:2001-01-05 Hacienda Heights, CA
| Re: Wont Work! bottom paint isn't doped with copper to try to create a conductive layer, as far as i know, and so isn't quite the right product. what you wanted was completely connected (low resistance) layer of Cu that has no disconnected holes in it that were bigger than probably something like 1/4 the wavelength of the em wave you were guiding, and you probably wanted the whole thing grounded as well. i don't think boat paint would work for you.
the makeup of the shape of the particles is a big deal as far as resistance goes. i can't find any spec on the Cu particles in bottom paint, but the flakes of silver used in conductive silver epoxy are specifically ground (i think they're ground) that way to form a decent conductive film, even a reasonably thin one. the cheapest shapes of small particles of metal (probably what's in bottom paint) aren't the most conductive.
for this paint to work, it basically has to form a pretty well connected (conductively) MESH of copper, not a continuous layer, and the mesh has to have a statistically good chance of not having open sections that are big enought o let through the shielded (spec) waves.
could work. would have to test. rather than worry about the particle migrating over time, i'd seal it in with a top coat of something prettier. | |
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 |   totamak And they call me nuts?
join:2000-10-24 Los Angeles, CA | Copper doped hull paint isn't using copper in the metallic form, but in a sulfite form. It's a biocide designed to keep barnacles and such from adhering to the hulls of boats. | |
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join:2003-02-18 Aledo, IL | nonsense I don't think it will ever catch on. In any case, what about the windows? I realize a lot of buildings don't have a lot of windows, but most do. Come on, what are you doing to do about that? Not build windows in buildings anymore? | |
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 |  MrE7
join:2002-04-14 New Orleans, LA
| Re: nonsense yes, and years from now someone will discover that children who are exposed to this paint have severe learning developmental problems, and you will be forced to sign disclosure/waiver when you buy/sell house that has been painted with this crap.  | |
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 |   3SGTE ST215W Premium,MVM join:2000-11-23 there clubs: | There are window tints/films that have a metal content and interfere with radio waves. -- The preceeding post may contain dry humor. Insert intelligent text here. | |
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  netwire Premium join:2001-04-27 Mooresboro, NC | This sucks... really. Stop the press! I seen this on TSS, and it actually did not work all that well - there was a drop in signal, but the signal still go trough. It did not actually work well enough that anyone should spend the money to buy it. | |
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@megapath.net | I'd rather have the opposite... How about a wall jack and paint that acts like a Wi-Fi antenna to help extend distance? | |
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  winky Turn Left At The Moon
join:2001-02-11 Saint Louis, MO | Phfffft.. Ha. No thanks. I'll keep my copper cage. | |
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