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  TKJunkMail Enjoy the sun Premium join:2002-03-03 Avalon, NJ | VOD over broadband to supplement sat TV
They just want some broadband capability not tied to a satellite. That way they can use Video on Demand capabilities just like their cable and telco competitors. | |
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| One Way Communication It's like TV from the 80s where you would have to call in to watch premium channels. I don't see mobile TV being that big without interactive services or some type of on-demand which can't be done with one way communication. -- Ricky Smith
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 |   KrK Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy Premium join:2000-01-17 Tulsa, OK
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| Re: One Way Communication said by Edrick :It's like TV from the 80s where you would have to call in to watch premium channels. I don't see mobile TV being that big without interactive services or some type of on-demand which can't be done with one way communication. The communication is done via your settop box, which either can phone in modem style, or it can use your broadband connection to report back to homebase, and then the requested program can be broadcast to you. -- "Regulatory capitalism is when companies invest in lawyers, lobbyists, and politicians, instead of plant, people, and customer service." - former FCC Chairman William Kennard (A real FCC Chairman, unlike the current Corporate Spokesperson in the job!) | |
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  digiblur Got Sipura? Premium join:2002-06-03 Louisiana | Echostar / DishNetwork Echostar bought the spectrum not DishNetwork. | |
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join:2008-02-13 Hingham, MA | Re: Echostar / DishNetwork That's true, I believe the two companies separated- Echostar owning the satellites and other businesses, and DISH using the satellites to provide TV? | |
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 |  |   firephoto KDE Premium join:2003-03-18 | Re: Echostar / DishNetwork Echostar is the hardware, Dish is the media provider. | |
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 |   KrK Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy Premium join:2000-01-17 Tulsa, OK | They are the same company, just two divisions. | |
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| Re: Echostar / DishNetwork said by KrK :They are the same company, just two divisions. Negative. Two separate stock symbols = two companies. DishNetwork even leases satellite space from Echostar. -- Make your Sipura/PAP2 speak. »www.voipurize.com SouthWest Louisiana PC Users Group »www.swlapcug.com | |
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...television.
What is wrong with this picture? -- Toolmaster of La Grange. | |
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join:2008-02-13 Hingham, MA | Re: So let me get this straight... Well, it was the FCC, not Echostar, that created a block useful only for one-way services... | |
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1 edit | Re: So let me get this straight... They are useful for more than just one-way depending on what you want to do. Don't blindly believe what pundits pund. I would imagine that someone could figure out something more useful to do with 6 MHz at 722 MHz than making it back into TV channel 56. -- Toolmaster of La Grange. | |
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| Re: So let me get this straight... Hm, I don't know much about wireless broadcasting, I just made the assumption based on the fact that block E only held one block of spectrum, while all others included two... though I suppose Video on Demand would require at least some of that to be set aside for upstream, so they can tell what video it is you are demanding... | |
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| Yea, "analysts" are mostly clueless; paid to say something about some company every once in awhile in order to churn the companies' stock, and generate commissions ofr their employers/clients.
Maybe Dish wants it for a return channel. They have plenty of downstream bandwidth. They could do one-way satellite broadband. Latency would be much improved compared with Wildblue and Direcway. | |
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 |   Karl Bode News Guy join:2000-03-02 | yeah I'm glad I'm not alone in being amused by that. | |
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1 edit | perhaps an effort to promote an infant technology that has promise with some chance for refinement..
edit: and hopefully not crappy small tube tv..... bleeeh. -- "You don't subject minority rights to a referendum." Justice Minister Irwin Cotler of Canada | |
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 |   cdru Go Colts Premium,MVM join:2003-05-14 Fort Wayne, IN
| Re: They said by anonomous :
could provide HSI with that bandwidth. Downstream data is provided from satellites, and upstream data is sent through the bandwidth they just bought. And that wouldn't be all that different then Spacenet...which I think is universally hated by anyone who has to use it unless no other HSI is available. Lag sucks. | |
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  dvd536 as Mr. Pink as they come Premium join:2001-04-27 Phoenix, AZ
| Huh??? "The spectrum in question came from the "E" block, and is primarily useful for one-way transmissions, meaning obviously that broadband is out." - no biggie there. those with hughes 'broadband' could argue what they get isn't broadband either. -- You can never be too rich, too thin or have too much Bandwidth | |
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| Re: Huh??? That's true, its no where near what the FCC used to call broadband (200kbps) nor what they define it now (768kbps). I bet I would burn through the FAP in about 2 hours. But with them using it for TV doesn't make much sense when not that many Americans are interested in mobile TV. I know I'm not. I can wait till I get home to watch TV. | |
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1 edit | More than interactivity... There are a variety of ways to handle "interactivity." That portion of the spectrum will allow them to serve products. Requesting the service could be done through a cell or land-line by merely calling in to an authorization network. They can even take advantage of multi-casting within that frequency. They haven't spent nearly a billion dollars without giving it a good deal of thought. They will probably be able to build that into a nationwide license.
Heck, their growth is good, their cash flow is good, their value is good, and considering what they've been spending to improve their product their profitability is not bad. Plus, the stock hasn't been this low since 2003. Not that it means a stinkin' thang, but I'm buying.
Anyway, there is a good bit more to this than "interactivity." | |
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| Does it matter what they do with it Does it matter what they do with it? Dishnetwork or Echostar if you will is dying. Their service sucks, their equipment is way over engineered for average consumers and their customer service is horrible. And that includes service from installers to tech supprt to billing people.
Every work order I ever had from them had some sort of mistake that required at least ten phone calls from the field to fix. Their service call proceedures defy logic and they have way to many types of dishes and switches and LNB's.... I swore two years ago that I would NEVER touch a piece of Dishnetwork equipment for the rest of my life.
Now they have a virtually dead and almost useless new satellite that costs millions and millions.....
I will be the first to dance at their funeral. | |
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join:2004-09-07 Brooklyn, NY | Re: Does it matter what they do with it I believe local channels will be send through the specturm with interactive features to make more room for hd channles since there sat failed. | |
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 |   digiblur Got Sipura? Premium join:2002-06-03 Louisiana
| What broken and useless new satellite? Echostar hasn't launched a satellite in a couple of years. Last one they launched was Echostar10 and it is working great providing local channels to everyone across the US. -- Make your Sipura/PAP2 speak. »www.voipurize.com SouthWest Louisiana PC Users Group »www.swlapcug.com | |
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from: netgear 
| Let's see, attguy at comcast.net - hmmm...
I can understand why you hate Dish Network.
However, they are far from dead and your FUD is laughable.
Way over-engineered equipment? LOL, I've seen 4 year olds operating their DVRs. The real problem is the incredible stupidity level of your average American. Just look at all the flashing 12:00's on all their digital clock equipped appliances and vcrs.
Sucky customer service? Whose isn't?
Comcast AND ATT are two of the worst on the planet and I have had personal and commercial experience with both of those companies. When I was done with ATT, they refunded me more than $35,000.00 they stole from me.
The satellite belongs to SES Americom who was going to rent transponders to Dish. The next Echostar satellite is Echostar 11 and that should go up in May. The SES Americom sat called AMC-14 may still be able to be moved into proper orbit but at a cost of some years of service. No biggie either way.
A dying service? Not hardly. 14 million customers and growing with new services and features added yearly.
With their purchase of SlingMedia and now this spectrum, I'm looking forward to seeing what they do with it. | |
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| If not broadband, do you think that they might use it for true On-demand? Currently, if a customer has a DVR, it records select shows automatically when the DVR is not in use and there is extra space on the HDD. With the part of the spectrum they bought, once again, they could use it to send data to the home office and then send info through satellites to the customers set top box. | |
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