 DodgePremium join:2002-11-27 | Already on LTE So what if I already have my unlimited on LTE? Next time my contract comes up (1.5 years), no more unlimited? If that's going to be the case, I can say with certainty that it will be no more verizon for me. | |
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 |  IPPlanManHoly Cable Modem Batman join:2000-09-20 Washington, DC kudos:1 | Re: Already on LTE Perhaps you could just buy your device at full unsubsidized price?
That should prevent you from having to mess with or sign a contract. | |
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·Suddenlink
| Re: Already on LTE Except that new device, regardless of whether you paid full price or not, will not be compatible with the currently offered data plans. They'll force you into it. Just like years ago when I was forced into a limited text messaging plan from the unlimited plan I had before even though I was only going from one dumb phone to another. If I wanted unlimited texting I had to upgrade to a higher plan. Somehow the new dumb phone wasn't compatible. Basically, they just wanted more money and were making up excuses. | |
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| Simple. At the time they discontinued 4G unlimited they had less than 2 million devices on it. Verizon has a little over 100 million devices so this is about 2%, so their exposure is very low. Of course if you want to sign up any NEW device it will be under the family bucket at then they will make having unlimited untasty by raising rates, services fees, making you go two full years, less of a subsidy, etc... so gone will be the good old days.
For all those iphone lemmings (myself included) they are going to feel the full pain to get to 4G. Of course I had unlimited 4G until my employer made me get an iphone. I will get over it though, because using wifi smartly I have never gotten over 2G and if I am sucking wind I pull out my wifi which has 5G on it and just use that. Apparently my employer got me 5G for the iphone now too, so that is aok.
You see the marginal rate for a family plan is the fact that ancillary devices are already unsubsidized (ipad, etc) so by getting more of them on the network the better for them. The only problem is the family plan with subsidized phones, which say the parent uses 100mb and the kid 5G. So they get them off unlimited, now pool (at a higher BULK rate of course), add some "pooling fee", reduce subsidies on phones (that REALLY is coming), and charge more for more data, not a bulk rate.
The gotcha will be how they monetize texting/mms properly. I would assume that the smart way to do this is FORCE attachment of a text plan (say $10+) to a data plan with pooling, so their texting numbers look good, and that they are guaranteed almost pure profit in that category.
So at the end of the day you will have "pooling" but will be no better off, you will just have more ways to slice your wrist with more devices. | |
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 |  |  HallPremium,MVM join:2000-04-28 Dayton, OH kudos:2 | Re: Already on LTE said by elefante72: Of course I had unlimited 4G until my employer made me get an iphone. There are no "4G" data plans or "3G" data plans. You had an "unlimited data plan" on your previous smartphone and whoever ordered your iPhone messed up by allowing it to be dropped.
I (we - wife and I) went from 3G phones, with unlimited data plans, to 4G phones. We made NO change to the data plan. Still unlimited, irregardless of phone type/capability. That said, VZW tricked a lot of people, at least when the phones were ordered online, into "upgrading" their data plan. | |
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1 edit | Re: Already on LTE said by Hall:said by elefante72: Of course I had unlimited 4G until my employer made me get an iphone. There are no "4G" data plans or "3G" data plans. You had an "unlimited data plan" on your previous smartphone and whoever ordered your iPhone messed up by allowing it to be dropped. I (we - wife and I) went from 3G phones, with unlimited data plans, to 4G phones. We made NO change to the data plan. Still unlimited, irregardless of phone type/capability. That said, VZW tricked a lot of people, at least when the phones were ordered online, into "upgrading" their data plan. Yes I was one of them. Although I had no issue going to the 4GB plan which was supposed to be the same price. At least two CSRs told me my price would be the same. When I found out it was more expensive they put me back on an unlimited plan and the same costs as I had with my 3G phone.
Although now I'm worried when I upgrade from my Rezound to a newer phone in 2013 that I won't be able to get the 4GB plan for the price of the 2GB plan. Which is what I had originally signed up for with my Rezound. And i would have been perfectly hapy with if the monthly price would have been the same like I was told. instead they tried charging me almost $20 more a month. $98 instead of the $78 it should be. | |
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They wouldn't be doing it if it wasn't going to cost most people more money, and ergo, generate greater profits. In a market with weak competition, and also weak regulation, this type of activity is par for the course. -- "Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." -- Benito Mussolini
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 |  BF69Premium join:2004-07-28 Camden, TN | said by Dodge:So what if I already have my unlimited on LTE? Next time my contract comes up (1.5 years), no more unlimited? If that's going to be the case, I can say with certainty that it will be no more verizon for me. And who are you going to go with that will have unlimited LTE? | |
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 |  |  DodgePremium join:2002-11-27 | Re: Already on LTE said by BF69:said by Dodge:So what if I already have my unlimited on LTE? Next time my contract comes up (1.5 years), no more unlimited? If that's going to be the case, I can say with certainty that it will be no more verizon for me. And who are you going to go with that will have unlimited LTE? Since noone will have unlimited I'll go with something cheaper, maybe even pre-paid. The only reason I'm tolerating $230 cell phone bill (3 lines) is because I have unlimited grandfathered. The funny thing is I only broke 4Gb in a month once, most months I don't get to 2Gb of data usage, but I do like the peace of mind that unlimited provides so when I do need it it's there. If verizon won't be able to do the simple math and leave my account alone, good bye to them | |
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 IPPlanManHoly Cable Modem Batman join:2000-09-20 Washington, DC kudos:1 | Wow... I'm trying to decide if what Verizon's doing here with its grandfathered unlimited customers is worse than what AT&T did for its "throttling" of unlimited grandfathered customers.
It's a tough call.
There are going to be a heck of a lot of angry iPhone 4/4S customers with Verizon. Sprint could hit it big here if it keeps unlimited going. -- "We're going to start at one end of (Fallujah), and we're not going to stop until we get to the other. If there's anybody left when that happens, we're going to turn around and we're going to go back and finish it." Lt. Col. Pete Newell: 1st Inf. US Army | |
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Also keep in mind they're network is VERY slow in a majority of their areas. Nobody will put up with that, even if it is unlimited. | |
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If you are in a Sprint 4G area, it is still worth considering, especially since LTE will have better coverage (and building penetration) than their WiMAX. | |
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 |  |  |  BF69Premium join:2004-07-28 Camden, TN | Re: Wow... said by xenophon:Also keep in mind they're network is VERY slow in a majority of their areas. Nobody will put up with that, even if it is unlimited. Sprint 3G is slow but 4G is still good, I'm getting 6-8Mbps and up to 12Mbps - unlimited. Good enough for me and I'm using 6-8GB/month, so VZW/ATT are out. A smartphone really only needs 3-4Mbps if that. Sprint stated they will continue unlimited with LTE. Doesn't look like they'll stop anytime soon as it's the only tool they have left. If you are in a Sprint 4G area, it is still worth considering, especially since LTE will have better coverage (and building penetration) than their WiMAX. Sprint doesn't even offer 2G service in my area. fuck 'em. | |
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| Wrong. Dan already announced they will retain unlimited after the LTE switch. as far as their network its not the fastest but always 700k or more. I dont tether so even though it not smoking fast its plenty good for me. 3 phones on the everything 1500 plan that includes unlimited data for $196. Pfft Att and the V cant even get close to that even with their caps. Not to mention the gave me a free Airave cause i have aluminum siding and had spotty indoor coverage. Im not much of a Fanboi for much but Sprint rocks for me. | |
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 |  morboComplete Your Transaction join:2002-01-22 00000 | Re: 4g customer How dare you ask questions that point out the flawed reasoning behind their decision! | |
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 |  Jon GebWal-Mart Sucks join:2001-01-09 Howell, MI | You better love that phone, because the day it dies and they don't offer a replacement, its the end of the line. | |
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 |  HallPremium,MVM join:2000-04-28 Dayton, OH kudos:2 | said by jgkolt:So the action of going from 3g to 4g customer is what makes you lose the unlimited. what about us with unlimited and already have 4g? That is incorrect. Switching phones does NOT require you to switch data plans. See my post above with add'l details. | |
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"Speaking on a recent investor webcast, Verizon Wireless CFO Fran Shammo unsurprisingly stated that as those customers switch to LTE, they're going to be forced to give up their unlimited data plans." | |
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| Re: price vs data amount If you have even the slightest idea that you will somehow save money with a shared data plan then you are delusional and retarded. They're not about to make less money. If anything they'l make more as there will still be some sort of per-device fee then the actual data plan fee which will be very low cap forcing everyone into high cap plans with high overages. | |
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 |  |  BF69Premium join:2004-07-28 Camden, TN | Re: price vs data amount said by thegeek:If you have even the slightest idea that you will somehow save money with a shared data plan then you are delusional and retarded. They're not about to make less money. If anything they'l make more as there will still be some sort of per-device fee then the actual data plan fee which will be very low cap forcing everyone into high cap plans with high overages. Really? Well let's see they never used to have shared texting plans. No you can get unlimited texting for a family for $30. Isn't that LESS money than the $10 per person for a mere 500 texts plans they had before? | |
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 |  |  |  HallPremium,MVM join:2000-04-28 Dayton, OH kudos:2 | Re: price vs data amount said by BF69: Really? Well let's see they never used to have shared texting plans. No you can get unlimited texting for a family for $30. Isn't that LESS money than the $10 per person for a mere 500 texts plans they had before? I also don't see VZW coming out with lower-cost plans with equal, not to mention "more", features ! They created new plans a couple of years ago that they claimed now "included" text plans, for example. Thing is, the new plan was $10 more per month. Unlimited text plans were .... $10/month. Even their reps didn't grasp it until I had them pretend to upgrade me and tell me the new monthly cost. They pushed those plans though, calling my previous generation plan (not a plan that was multiple generations old) "obsolete". | |
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 |  |  |  |  BF69Premium join:2004-07-28 Camden, TN | Re: price vs data amount said by Hall:said by BF69: Really? Well let's see they never used to have shared texting plans. No you can get unlimited texting for a family for $30. Isn't that LESS money than the $10 per person for a mere 500 texts plans they had before? I also don't see VZW coming out with lower-cost plans with equal, not to mention "more", features ! They created new plans a couple of years ago that they claimed now "included" text plans, for example. Thing is, the new plan was $10 more per month. Unlimited text plans were .... $10/month. Even their reps didn't grasp it until I had them pretend to upgrade me and tell me the new monthly cost. They pushed those plans though, calling my previous generation plan (not a plan that was multiple generations old) "obsolete". What are you talking about? A $30 unlimited family texting plan IS FAR better than four $10 texting plans that had a 500 text limit with 10 cents per text overages. | |
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| Re: price vs data amount Sure it is, but once you factor in the increase in base price of the family plan for no extra minutes it's not a savings. The vast majority of customers that switched to that new texting plan did so at the time they also had to sign a new 2 year contract and were forced into the new higher priced plans. | |
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 |  timcuthBraves FanPremium join:2000-09-18 Pelham, AL | Re: What are the plans?
That is the $64,000 question.
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 BF69Premium join:2004-07-28 Camden, TN | Unlike the rest of the haters I'll wait until plans and pricing are announced before getting my panties in a wad. | |
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4G is already a useless technology because of these low caps. If it takes just 2 hours to burn through the cap then what's the point? -- Romney 2012 - Put an adult in charge. | |
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 |  BF69Premium join:2004-07-28 Camden, TN | Re: waiting to see also I love how everyone assumes Verizon is 100% evil.
Ok Verizon has $20 unlimited texting plans but they also have a $30 unlimited family texting plan. OK if they are greedy and evil why offer something for $30 when you could make a family of four pay $80 a month for the same thing( 4 X $20 ). Isn't Verizon losing money this way? Even their $10 1000 text plan would be $40 a month. So why even bother to offer the $30 family plan? I mean since they are greedy evil fucks and all? | |
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Do you REALLY think Verizon - a for profit company - didn't run the numbers when they made these changes? It's really simple - they can get more revenue out of the $30 unlimited plan than they can from the $20 ones because of number of customers that buy the $30 plan over multiple $20 plans.
Basically, they were making $30 per family on text plans on average over time and the trend had it staying there or going lower due to mobile IM or something similar. Based on that, they put out an unlimited 'family' plan that gets more people purchasing the plan overall and increasing revenue.
So...in short...100 families getting a $30 plan is more money than 20 families getting 4 unlimited plans (or other such plan combinations).
Add into it the mix that texting is a has a near zero cost to Verizon and the ONLY reason they change pricing is to get more customers and increase/maintain revenue and profit. That's it - no other reason. | |
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| No thank you I decline to participate. My oldest son has been after me to switch from AT&T to Verizon. Right now, the only carrier I would consider switching to is Sprint. And, as we all know, there is no guarantee that they won't eliminate unlimited data, either.
Why doesn't some company see what is happening in France and offer competitive rates much lower than the current incumbent pricing models? They wouldn't make as much per customer, but they would get tons of customers.
Tim -- "Life is like this long line, except at the end there ain't no merry-go-round." - Arthur on The King of Queens ~ Project Hope ~ | |
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| Re: No thank you "Why doesn't some company see what is happening in France and offer competitive rates much lower than the current incumbent pricing models? They wouldn't make as much per customer, but they would get tons of customers."
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 MentatPicard Is A CommunistPremium join:2001-02-25 Sugar Land, TX | wtffff I'm confused; will my as-of-now grandfathered account die when I choose (or not) to renew this summer? | |
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 |  BF69Premium join:2004-07-28 Camden, TN | Re: wtffff said by Mentat:I'm confused; will my as-of-now grandfathered account die when I choose (or not) to renew this summer? if you no longer have service with Verizon yea I assume you won't be able to use their data. | |
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 |  |  MentatPicard Is A CommunistPremium join:2001-02-25 Sugar Land, TX | Re: wtffff Ick, terrible wording.
Let me try again: If I renew my contract with Verizon, will the plan I'm on now (4G unlimited data) automatically become a capped plan? | |
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| Re: At first, I was a bit shocked. I heard a sort of rumor that the next iPhone will have a projector feature that would allow you to watch videos on any blank wall. It would probably be good for presentations, too, in the business world. Other smartphones could have the same technology, I think. Imagine how much money Verizon and even AT&T could make if that takes off. -- It is easier for a camel to put on a bikini than an old man to thread a needle. | |
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Evidence of this all? Oh...um.....well, this is all just true. AT&T and Verizon promise us so! | |
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| Sign of an LTE iPhone This is a sign that a 4G LTE iPhone is in the cards. When I first signed up for mobile broadband, I had the 3GB/$35 plan but when I went 4G, I had to go to the 5GB/$50 plan.
Maybe if the 4G LTE iPhone ever comes out, i'll pay the ETF on my mobile broadband card and pay for tethering on the LTE iPhone. | |
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/sigh, sarcasm of course.. Why in the hell do wireless co's in this country insist on sucking the fun outta everything? If they hate their networks being used this badly just burn the damn thing down.. All of it. | |
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/sigh, sarcasm of course.. Why in the hell do wireless co's in this country insist on sucking the fun outta everything? If they hate their networks being used this badly just burn the damn thing down.. All of it. why not find out what the plan actually is before getting all pissy? | |
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/sigh, sarcasm of course.. Why in the hell do wireless co's in this country insist on sucking the fun outta everything? If they hate their networks being used this badly just burn the damn thing down.. All of it. why not find out what the plan actually is before getting all pissy? Seriously? The pattern of overpricing in the past hasn't been noticed by you? Trust me, I won't be far off on my projections.. I'm willing to bet you won't even save money until you have 3+ phones sharing a data plan on any family account as well. Thats assuming you are already adjusted to the 2 gig caps.. People with unlimited and not horribly abusing it will definitely be hammered..
I hope i'm wrong, but looking at the tarded prices of the Home Fusion considering that in theory any tower from verizon supplying LTE is fiber fed is pathetic.. Better than satellite? Yes, but heck, tin cans and a string could beat that... | |
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 |  BF69Premium join:2004-07-28 Camden, TN | Re: Without unlimited data I don't want a smartphone said by skeechan:The day AT&T kills off my unlimited plan is the day I get an dirt cheap go-phone. I got along just fine all my life without one until my SX66 and Treo700W and I will not die if I ditch it. So you say you can live without data and a smartphone but will drop your smartphone and data if the data is unlimited. Well if you can live without the data why does it have to be unlimited then? Obviously if you need unlimited then you CAN'T live without it. | |
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 |  | | The day this happens on Verizon, I will take my smartphone to the store and throw it at the manager next I will demand a dumb phone with no text and no data in place of it as well as the $300 I spent on the smartphone. The next day I will go to work and get the crapberry out of my desk and return to using it for my email. There is no need for a smartphone when they put restrictions in place to make it a paperweight. | |
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·Bright House
| Re: Without unlimited data I don't want a smartphone I agree!!
I just use mine to stream music now since im always driving. Will be quite a loss to me to lose the unlimited, ill likely just cancel my phone since I have a company issued "dumb phone" that id prefer to talk on anyways. I dont use the internet on it for anything else anyways. | |
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