  The LimitPremium
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kudos:2 | Collusion... ...in lockstep. Almost every carrier does this now, so the excuse "if you don't like it, don't sign up" can't be applied here. And for the love of God, don't even try and argue that this is a legit service fee. It's not, plain and simple.
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1 edit | Not an issue with any number of MVNOs reselling service from the Big 4.
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| |  Vchat20Landing is the REAL challengePremium
join:2003-09-16
Columbus, OH | Re: Collusion... Yeah. If you don't mind a horrid selection of phones and no BYOD. There are very few MVNOs that are open BYOD or have a remotely decent selection of phones directly offered by them. Believe me, I've looked. Best option is T-Mobile's prepaid plans given they allow you to just order a SIM and use your own device? And it all just goes downhill from there. I'm currently on Page Plus which is a Verizon MVNO and allows pretty much any clean postpaid Verizon device no questions. Currently rocking an OG Droid which activated just as easy if I was activating on a postpaid VZ account. Unfortunately if you are a primary data user, the plans are a bit ugly compared to other providers. Best plan they have now is a $55/mo unlimited talk/text and 1GB data. Next down the list is $29.95/mo for 1200 texts and 1200 minutes but an anemic 100MB data. Though they at least let you go over those limits with per X rates. If memory serves the $29.95 was $.10/MB when you used up the 100MB.
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| | | said by The Limit:...in lockstep. Almost every carrier does this now, so the excuse "if you don't like it, don't sign up" can't be applied here. And for the love of God, don't even try and argue that this is a legit service fee. It's not, plain and simple.
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join:2001-04-21
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kudos:4 | ehh You can usually get t-mobile to waive the upgrade fee if you ask hard enough. | |
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| tcopePremium
join:2003-05-07
Sandy, UT
kudos:2 | Re: ehh Yup, but on top of that it's only $18, which is at least a reasonable rape of money. I'e upgraded several times with TM and they have been so good I've not had any issues with the fee. | |
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join:2002-01-19
Atlanta, GA | as a result? I feel like if there's an upgrade fee that just means I'm more likely to switch wireless companies next time I have to upgrade, assuming that network coverage is similar. (I realize that's a huge assumption :P) | |
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| | USCellular is looking better every moment. I saw this when it was first posted this morning and was amazed. You want to charge me $30 to lock myself into another 2 year contract and pay upwards of $300 for a phone....no. I just renewed my contract last month so this won't affect me for a couple of years, but USCellular is looking better and better.
If they are going to charge this fee I expect LTE to be up and running nationwide by April 22. I think that's a fair tradeoff. | |
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join:2010-10-16
Springfield, MA | Re: USCellular is looking better every moment. No iPhone, No Sale.
I'll stick with Verizon as they have the iPhone. I am also thinking of buying an new iPad (old one is 1st generation and is crashing frequently due to low memory) and I am hoping to get the Verizon one as it has LTE. | |
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About UsCellular, it will be a matter of time before they to charge a contract fee. maybe not today but eventually. They are not the black knight in shinning armour. | |
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| | | | | | Re: USCellular is looking better every moment. said by floyd007:iPhone is NOT the best phone out there, (my opinion of course) sorry, I just do not buy it. I actually switched carriers from At&T to Verizon because I wanted the Incredible and not the IPhone. Yes it is. I thought Android was better. Picked up a new Droid X on launch day. It had issues out of the box. Would reboot and stuff every couple weeks. 3G hotspot didn't work reliably. I should have sent it back and went back to AT&T and my iPhone. Didn't and it got better.
Now it's been upgraded to Gingerbread and it reboots whenever it feels like it, it is sluggish, the vibrator stopped working, the battery cover comes off when it wants, and it's jut a general POS. Moto won't update it, Google washed their hands of it.
Contrast that to my iPhone 3G that I bought on launch week and sold to a coworker. Still works to this day (guess he doesn't have huge needs).
I'm done with Android when the iPhone 5 comes out. I plan to use my Droid X for target practice when the iPhone 5 is in my hands. | |
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| | | | | | | Re: USCellular is looking better every moment. Because you had one bad phone does not mean the iPhone is better. I had the HTC Incredible and it was a fantastic phone. I rarely had issues and did not root it until after 15 months of owning it. I've now moved on to the Rezound and it is probably the best phone out right now. I also got it for $100 which makes the deal even better.
My Rezound with 32GB of storage cost $100 while a 32GB iPhone costs $300...I'll keep the $200 as well as having the better phone.
Oh lets not forget the 4GB of data that a new Verizon Android customer gets compared to the 2GB cap an Apple customer gets. (This is irrelevant to me, I'm still unlimited). | |
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| | | | | | | | Re: USCellular is looking better every moment. said by daake07:Because you had one bad phone does not mean the iPhone is better. I had the HTC Incredible and it was a fantastic phone. I rarely had issues and did not root it until after 15 months of owning it. Well, Apple's offerings (iCloud, find my phone, etc) are better than what Google gives people. I won't even discuss the abysmal e-mail client that comes with the Droid X (doesn't really do IMAP), or how bad the WiFi is on the DX.
Let me just say this - there are plenty of people going from Android -> iPhone.
Believe me I wanted to love Android. I wanted it to be better than the iPhone. Sadly for me it isn't.
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Oh lets not forget the 4GB of data that a new Verizon Android customer gets compared to the 2GB cap an Apple customer gets. (This is irrelevant to me, I'm still unlimited).
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| | | | | | | | | Re: USCellular is looking better every moment. You can NOT compare Droid X as that device and software is set only for Verizon. You have to take in account for Android as a whole.
And not that many people going from Android to Apple. Just not seeing it happen. Especially with their over priced phones and higher data plans. | |
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join:2004-02-02
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kudos:3 | said by itguy05:Well, Apple's offerings (iCloud, find my phone, etc) are better than what Google gives people.
This might just be biased from your Droid X experience. I have a lower-end phone than yours, and all those functions work, if not better, with Google's cloud services.
I might look more into an iPhone once their market becomes open to 3rd parties (ie. amazon). Having to switch my entire cloud media library simply because of my phone manufacturer is pretty goofy. | |
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I use all devices and have significant experience with the platforms. icloud is not better than googles cloud services. I cannot imagine where you heard that since it's well known in the industry.
I think the non-intelligent thing to do would be to run back to the abusive spouse because you had a rough go for a bit. I'm confident that if you picked up the galaxy nexus, razr maxx or equivalent you would soon lose your desire never go back. | |
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I use all devices and have significant experience with the platforms. icloud is not better than googles cloud services. I cannot imagine where you heard that since it's well known in the industry.
What industry? Where is Google's cloud music offering? Where's the syncing of my media library? When I get a new phone do my apps automatically come over (Hint: no!).
Google does have Docs but that's about it.
I think the non-intelligent thing to do would be to run back to the abusive spouse because you had a rough go for a bit. I'm confident that if you picked up the galaxy nexus, razr maxx or equivalent you would soon lose your desire never go back.
No thanks, I'll ditch the BS of Android and go back to what I know works. | |
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join:2004-04-09
Smithtown, NY
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1 edit | said by itguy05:said by floyd007:iPhone is NOT the best phone out there, (my opinion of course) sorry, I just do not buy it. I actually switched carriers from At&T to Verizon because I wanted the Incredible and not the IPhone. Yes it is. I thought Android was better. Picked up a new Droid X on launch day. It had issues out of the box. Would reboot and stuff every couple weeks. 3G hotspot didn't work reliably. I should have sent it back and went back to AT&T and my iPhone. Didn't and it got better. Now it's been upgraded to Gingerbread and it reboots whenever it feels like it, it is sluggish, the vibrator stopped working, the battery cover comes off when it wants, and it's jut a general POS. Moto won't update it, Google washed their hands of it. Contrast that to my iPhone 3G that I bought on launch week and sold to a coworker. Still works to this day (guess he doesn't have huge needs). I'm done with Android when the iPhone 5 comes out. I plan to use my Droid X for target practice when the iPhone 5 is in my hands. Couldn't agree with you more. Android is a meaningless mess of well intentioned software running on disparate hardware platforms.
While Apple may have control, if that is what it takes to make it work as flawlessly as it does - then so be it.
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| | | | | | | | Re: USCellular is looking better every moment. Apple is by far NOT the best product out there. After all they only tell you what you need. And look at their own products. They're still behind in technology when compared to other products. | |
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| | | | | | | | | Re: USCellular is looking better every moment. said by 25139889:Apple is by far NOT the best product out there. After all they only tell you what you need. And look at their own products. They're still behind in technology when compared to other products.
No one said Apple is the best product out there but you. It just works! | |
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join:2004-07-15
Sacramento, CA | Re: USCellular is looking better every moment. said by rifleman69 
No one said Apple is the best product out there but you. It just works!
[/BQUOTE :Tell my friend that please. He txts me all the time telling me all his iphone problems and when I ask him why doesn't he just go with a different phone he tell me "It just works!" And without fail he'll use his upgrade for the next iphone. He's the very reason I will stay far far away from the iphone. | |
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join:2000-07-23
Grandville, MI | It is bittersweet to see this post. I also have had the Droid X since October 2010 and was having major problems with it. I sent it back for a refurb and while the issues are less the fact that it just does whatever it wants sometimes is scary.
I don't know if I am going to stick with Verizon after this stunt. | |
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| | | | | | | | Re: USCellular is looking better every moment. said by floyd007:That is your experience. me. no issues and like I mentioned I do not do proprietary systems, no exceptions. What OS do you run on your computer? Linux? Windows is proprietary too..... | |
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| Re: USCellular is looking better every moment. No it is not. Apple is. They had the same issue back in the 1980s and lost the war with Microsoft even though they had a superior product. IBM at the same time tried with their OS Wrap and PC-DOS and failed. Microsoft, like Google permit all vendors to tinkle with their OS (of course for a price). Apple's products in the 1980s? NO. Today? Severely limited. | |
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join:2005-06-24
Willseyville, NY | While I don't want an iPhone, I'm seriously disappointed in my Droid 3. I got it for the keyboard, and within a year the space bar is flaky... The phone has been randomly rebooting, or randomly not having GPS work or all around running like it was Windows 98SE - passable, but boy do I have to reboot it a lot.
My 6 yr old dumb Motorola (feature phone?) never rebooted unless I took the battery out. I like the apps, I find many useful - but the OS is laggy / hangy / rebooty and some apps crash all the damn time. I haven't rooted it or re-flashed it, but I'm getting close to seeing if it's the hardware or OS Motorola put on it.
I just wish there were more choices with a slide out keyboard - I just haven't been able to use an onscreen keyboard well ever, and hardly at all on anything less than a 7" touchscreen. My fingers are fat.
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| | Will they wave this for a company discount? I wonder if they'll let us wave the fee if we have a company discount on our account. What about the loyal customer's who pay their bill on time every month or have auto pay? | |
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b10010011Whats a Posting tag?
join:2004-09-07
Bellingham, WA | Hey Verizon spend some of that money on fixing your website! I tried to use Verizions website last weekend and it did not work properly in IE8, Firefox, or Chrome! | |
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| contsolePremium
join:2003-12-30
Bloomfield, CT | Hey Verizon spend some of that money on fixing your website! They consistently have the worst website ever! When it does occasionally work, why is it so slow? | |
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| | | Re: Hey Verizon spend some of that money on fixing your website! Fix your computer. I've used the Verizon Residential site and the Verizon Wireless site in Firefox in Windows, Firefox in Linux, IE, and Safari with no issues at all. | |
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join:2001-04-10
Geneva, IL | Can I opt out? Can I opt out of the "Wireless Workshops, online educational tools, and consultations with experts who provide advice and guidance on devices that are more sophisticated than ever."
I have not used, nor plan to use, these things. Can I opt out and save the $30.00?
I can get most of this here at DSLR, if I ever needed it.
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| said by crazyk4952:said by BK3:Can I opt out of the "Wireless Workshops, online educational tools, and consultations with experts who provide advice and guidance on devices that are more sophisticated than ever."
I have not used, nor plan to use, these things. Can I opt out and save the $30.00?
I can get most of this here at DSLR, if I ever needed it.
+1! +2 I don't need any wireless workshops or online educational tools!!! | |
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| OwlSaverOwlSaverPremium
join:2005-01-30
Berwyn, PA | said by BK3:Can I opt out of the "Wireless Workshops, online educational tools, and consultations with experts who provide advice and guidance on devices that are more sophisticated than ever."
I have not used, nor plan to use, these things. Can I opt out and save the $30.00?
I can get most of this here at DSLR, if I ever needed it.
Shhh. If you are not careful, DSLR will start to charge us $30 every time we upgrade our phone. I have no idea how they will do this. | |
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New Orleans, LA | And with the continued stupidity of people wanting to destroy any and all regulations....companies will continue adding more and more fees because frankly...who will stop them? | |
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I don't have a smartphone, I don't need a smart phone (I know I'm the minority) so basically I'm going to pay Verizon the money they are loosing by subsidizing smartphones when I want to change my phone. | |
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| | And Yet... The US Cellular companies will express "shock" when Congress finally notices consumer outrage and figures the votes garnered in regulating the wireless carriers far exceeds those that can be purchased with dollars from those carriers.
You can't have double-digit percentage profit increases (or in the case of Verizon triple) year over year, and have a good explanation of why you *need* to charge an upgrade fee other than you can and will. After all, where's the consumer going to go? | |
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join:2004-01-26
japan
kudos:2 | Re: And Yet... said by desarollo:You can't have double-digit percentage profit increases (or in the case of Verizon triple) year over year Huh, when did this happen?
said by VZ 4Q 2011 HIGHLIGHTS :• 7.7 percent year-over-year quarterly revenue growth in 4Q, a company record | |
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| | | | Re: And Yet... said by openbox9:said by desarollo:You can't have double-digit percentage profit increases (or in the case of Verizon triple) year over year Huh, when did this happen? said by VZ 4Q 2011 HIGHLIGHTS :• 7.7 percent year-over-year quarterly revenue growth in 4Q, a company record Again, pretending to the miss the point by feigning ignorance. Verizon's revenues and profits are sky-high, and they charge 4 times as much as European carriers while having less towers per similar population demographics and geography. | |
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join:2004-01-26
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kudos:2 | Re: And Yet... Exaggerating does not make a point. Shying away from fact tends to weaken one's argument. Your use of "sky-high" doesn't defend you position very well. Neither do comparisons to foreign telecoms that don't conduct business in the US. | |
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IowaCowboyWant to go back to IowaPremium
join:2010-10-16
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| Still a bargain It's still a bargain to get a $649 phone for $199 plus the $30 upgrade fee, although I think they should reduce it to $15 for basic phones.
A local supermarket chain in my area (Big Y) has the silver savings club loyalty program where you can upgrade your loyalty card for $20 a year and get special pricing on select items. I have already saved more than I paid for the card itself. One thing I use the card for is ground beef which is $1 off per pound with the silver savings card. The discounts on other select items are pretty generous as well.
If the carriers really wanted to make money, they'd get rid of carrier subsidies and make us pay for the phones outright. Then manufacturers would be forced to sell their phones dirt cheap as they would not sell themselves on their own. Just like when they broke up Ma' Bell, the phones were sold by third party retailers and not by the phone company. I've seen landline phones for $5 at Walmart. I am also pretty sure that our cell service would be cheaper without carrier subsidies as they are built into the cost of service. I think a more sustainable business model for the cell companies would be to offer a discount on service for buying the phone outright. | |
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join:2002-01-20
Bristol, CT
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| Maybe I am just too old? Maybe I am getting along there, and maybe it skews my view of relative value..
My first cell phone was what would come to be called, a "bag" phone. Weighed several pounds, and you would not even fantasize about carrying it in a breifcase!
Cost? $399 (got mine on sale for a mere $299!). Plan? Around $0.71 a minute, no free nights/weekends...nada! At the time, it was actually a decent deal, by the way. Oh yeah, don't even ask about roaming charges...
What could 'ya do with it? If you were really, really lucky...and managed to find the rare good service connection...you could make a call to a landline number...yee-haw!
My current phone, a Glaxy SII? Well, yes, I do make phone calls...and answer emails, texts, vm etc. I also watch the occasional tv show or movie when stuck waiting somewhere...and take photos with it (Not bad 8mp camera)...and send documents from work, to my printer at home...and scan bar codes to compare prices on goods...and listen to my music...and manage my appointments...and use GPS to figure out where I am driving...
Hell, I can go on, and these are features that I actually use on a regular basis, I am sure other folks here have other uses for their smart phones.
I want low cost as much as the next person...but I can also appreciate value...Half the posts here sound like folks feel disenfranchised because the companies have the "gall" to charge them anything at all for their service.
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join:2004-07-15
Sacramento, CA | Re: Maybe I am just too old? said by PeteC2:
I want low cost as much as the next person...but I can also appreciate value...Half the posts here sound like folks feel disenfranchised because the companies have the "gall" to charge them anything at all for their service.
Most of these posts are totally off-topic, and the ones that aren't are not complaints about the $30 amount but the lockstep actions of the carriers. Hell, the very first post is about colluding. | |
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| | Upgrade Fee will enf my relationship. I currently have Sprint and have had it for over 10 years. If they were to tell me that it will cost me 30 dollars to "upgrade" my phone then I would have to say adios. I am quote happy with Sprint(except for that nebulous 10 bucks a month data fee) and the fact that after over 2 years I've yet to see "4G" except for pockets outside my home area. I'll just keep my EVO 4Gs until they fall apart or Sprint no longer supports them. Smart Phones are a bit overrated because the carriers don't fully support the capabilities and serve up a mishmash of services designed to maximize their bottom line and minimizing your wallet. | |
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join:2000-12-16
Santa Monica, CA | Non-issue, as usual Phones cost real money. They aren't free. Get over it. | |
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| | | Re: Non-issue, as usual said by elray:Phones cost real money. They aren't free. Get over it.
Ooh... so profound. Phones cost REAL money! Woah! Well *that* explains the increase in the activation fee. Wait no it doesn't. | |
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join:2000-12-16
Santa Monica, CA | Re: Non-issue, as usual Sure it does.
Instead of burying the increased cost of "smart" phones in the monthly rate or raising the listed price, Verizon is simply assigning a fixed charge to offset their expense.
No one forces you to buy their phone, or take it "free". | |
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join:2004-07-15
Sacramento, CA | Re: Non-issue, as usual Ah, if it isn't Mr. Giant-corporations-can-do-no-wrong. I have absolutely no problems with a company or companies making obscene amounts of profit if it was in an environment where it even remotely resembled a free-market. Instead it's a four-legged race to the bottom of the barrel. | |
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join:2000-12-16
Santa Monica, CA | Re: Non-issue, as usual said by thecp:Ah, if it isn't Mr. Giant-corporations-can-do-no-wrong. I have absolutely no problems with a company or companies making obscene amounts of profit if it was in an environment where it even remotely resembled a free-market. Instead it's a four-legged race to the bottom of the barrel.
Without the lure of profit, no one is going to produce the goodies you so covet.
Corporations can do wrong, and if you paid attention, you'd note that I critique them regularly.
Where is this "obscene amounts of profit" you reference, and what makes its "obscene"? | |
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| NE2? So does this negate my last New Every 2 upgrade I've been saving? I guess I should look into just buying a phone and selling it right off the bat. Then when a new phone that I actually want comes along (new WP anytime now VZW) I will just pay the retail price. | |
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join:2007-09-04
Canada
kudos:1 | Keep the fees coming! Far too many phones ending up in the landfills from people constantly upgrading their phones.
It's about time they do something to help discourage people from upgrading their phones twice a year! | |
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join:2006-10-16
San Luis Obispo, CA | Re: Keep the fees coming! Twice a year? Dang, I don't know anyone that's go that much money nowadays to throw away. If your upgrading a smartphone, or even a regular phone on Verizon twice a year, then your spending a fortune on phones not to mention other fees.
But hey, I guess Verizon should feel lucky to a have a few guys like you in their corner that agree with their greedy ways. | |
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join:2004-11-26
America Reviews:
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| Currently with U.S. Cellular....... So there's this, an activation fee, a bunch of fees, including the "Universal Slush Fund," totally overpriced text fees, way overpriced data charges that went from 5GB, to 2GB, to 4GB... wow
In other words, these devices are getting insanely expensive, they ate it bad on people who renewed too often (doesn't help that Moto comes out with a new model every other week it seems like), and now they want people to pay.
Oh, and massive iPhone subsidies... yeah.
Well, I've been w/U.S. Cellular since they took over "Cellular One" in my area (10+yrs. in total now I've been w/the 'same' company). Guess what. They've *NEVER* screwed around like this. Guess what else. I'm glad. I pay my fair share, they provide reliable service, and all is good. I have zero incentive to consider another carrier. A shiny Apple phone isn't enough. Service and price are what matter more to me, including customer service, both of which have always been just fine
I might understand this for actual smart phones, NOT including Blackberry (hmm... there's another factor... can you imagine the boxes of unsold Blackberry devices sitting around??).
In my case, if I were with Verizon, it would still cost more than U.S. Cellular, even factoring in a discount that I could get through work.
Add $90 to upgrade 3 lines at once... 2 of which are 'normal' phones... no thanks! | |
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join:2004-03-10
Wyoming, MI | $30 to keep a number? So my wife decided to ditch the BB in favor of a 4S on Sprint. I assume the story is the same for all carriers.
She could have paid that upgrade fee, if out of contract, and gotten the phone. Being still in the contract, we were faced with a termination fee and an unsubsidized phone, just to keep her same number.
So instead, we figured with 3 months left on the contract, it was cheaper to keep that account, open a new line, and boom we get a subsidized 4S without an upgrade or cancellation fee. New number of course.
We have the old BB call forwarding to the 4S until the contract is up, then we shut that phone down.
Dear carriers,
Suck it. We'll find away around as many of your fees as we can while still retaining service. | |
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