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Dazed Confused
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join:2000-03-26
Mount Vernon, NY | Good Now all those who were screaming to get rid of New Englad Tel./NYNEX/Bell Atlantic/Verizon should be very happy. | |
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KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
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join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK | Re: Good The slavesumers got bent over--- again. | |
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WhyUs
@harvard.edu | Fairpoint will be bankrupt in under a year, Hell the've gone bankrupt twice before and New England will be lucky to get tin cans and a string for service. | |
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gaforces
United We Stand, Divided We Fall
join:2002-04-07
Santa Cruz, CA | Re: Good 2 strings so they will have full duplex  | |
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join:2005-11-23
Bangor, ME
| said by WhyUs :
Fairpoint will be bankrupt in under a year, Hell the've gone bankrupt twice before and New England will be lucky to get tin cans and a string for service.
That has been a mystery since the late seventies broadband...
How many millions of cutomers in 100 square miles does it take? the gaol to be repulsively wealthy to the point of gov't interaction hopefully has hindered such excuse to go bankrupt for an incredible profit on lines they haven't seviced in 50 freakin years.
I am expecting 7mpbs on my downtown bangor street anytime....for the same freakin price dammit.
I am a faithful broadband/dsl customer since summer 1999:
I have dished out nearly 5000 dollars, and never once got serviced, did all hook ups myself, even ran new wiring an an apartment rental to follow this evolution...
not to mention the games they play, once thier internet connect is sparked up, with marketing ads...making billions of pennies for everything I do... | |
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| hottboiinnc
ME
join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH
 ·Time Warner Cable
·buckeye cable
| Re: Wheres My DSL!! they said they will expand DSL to the rural areas. They DO NOT say how fair their expansion will go and how many people it actually will cover. Hell according to what they say and the states approved- as long as they cover roughly 2 houses per exchange that's expanded. | |
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ropeguru
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join:2001-01-25
Bridgeport, WV
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| All that will happen... is Fairpoint will go under and Verizon will buy the entire area, and then some, back even cheaper than what they sold it for. So they will get the area cheap and still get to keep all the tax benefits and other write offs from the sale.
It is definitely a win/win for Verizon. | |
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ropeguru
Premium
join:2001-01-25
Bridgeport, WV
clubs:
·VOIPo
| Re: All that will happen... said by supergirl  :said by ropeguru :is Fairpoint will go under and Verizon will buy the entire area, and then some, back even cheaper than what they sold it for. So they will get the area cheap and still get to keep all the tax benefits and other write offs from the sale. It is definitely a win/win for Verizon. OMG!!! They finally sold it to Canada! Well, that's where people down South think Maine is just like they thought, "Why is that Canadian Mitt Romney running for President?" Where in the he!! did I mention Canada and did I even imply that Maine was part of Canada. And get rid of the attitude of that everyone "down south". Just because you 'up north" have your noses so high in the air doesn't mean we don't know geography. But hey, you might as well belong to them anyway!!! | |
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OSUGoose
join:2007-12-27
Columbus, OH
clubs: | Re: All that will happen... uh...shes from FL too re re. | |
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Boogeyman
Drive it like you stole it
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join:2002-12-17
Huntsville, AL | Re: All that will happen... Shes from NORTH Florida though. That few hundred miles makes a difference ya know :P | |
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ropeguru
Premium
join:2001-01-25
Bridgeport, WV
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·VOIPo
| Re: All that will happen... said by Boogeyman :Shes from NORTH Florida though. That few hundred miles makes a difference ya know :P hehehe... I am used to S. Fl where the demographics are those from other countries to the south and those states and countries north of the Mason Dixon line. | |
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Boogeyman
Drive it like you stole it
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join:2002-12-17
Huntsville, AL | Re: All that will happen... Yeah, N FL and S FL are like different states. Up here is redneckville, down there its retirementville and New Cuba. | |
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davoice
join:2000-08-12
Saxapahaw, NC | Selling Vermont and New Hampshire to Canada is the smartest suggestion I've heard in a LONG time!
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join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA
clubs:
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·Comcast Formerly ..
| Re: All that will happen... Can we do the same with Northern Maine ? We can get lobsters And sell off a huge chunk to the canucks , who like all the snow and rural areas.
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VWSpeedRacer
join:2002-10-06
Essex Junction, VT
clubs: | The good times are over! I predict that Comcast will be the more affordable option pretty soon. | |
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join:2003-07-14
Skowhegan, ME
 ·Great Works Internet
| Re: The good times are over! It's time to enter the communications dark ages...
Hopefully my internet bill won't go up, I remember when they ended line sharing a few years ago, and my bill from GWI(independent isp) went up by $5. Hopefully we won't have to face another increase like this again. As far as fiber goes, it will be up to the independent companies or the government. | |
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| | ElJay
join:2004-03-17 | Re: The good times are over! As long as they don't screw up GWI, I don't care what Fairpoint does!  | |
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| | hottboiinnc
ME
join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH | the only ones that ended linesharing was the gov't. Just VZ and ATT had louder voices and pockets when it came down to it. | |
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Kearnstd
Elf Wizard
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join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ | 600mil tax write off why? didnt they sell something? shouldnt they have to infact pay tax on that sale? i mean if i sold my car New Jersey would expect me to declare that income.
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Boogeyman
Drive it like you stole it
Premium
join:2002-12-17
Huntsville, AL
| Re: 600mil tax write off why? Maybe BBR should incorperate so we can all enjoy tax breaks. We can be like every other company, just make up important sounding positions and viola, we're all important executives. I want to be Executive in charge of the Procrastination. Anyone who wants to procrastinate, file the paperwork and I'll get to it when I feel like it  But go ahead and procrastinate, because I'll just keep putting off reprimands for unauthorized procrastinating.
Seriously though, that is complete and utter CRAP that they dont have to pay taxes on the sale. I think there should have also been a clause saying that they couldnt ever buy it back if it was up for sale later. | |
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58ef2c0
Premium,ExMod 2000-03
join:2000-05-11
·AT&T Midwest
| Re: 600mil tax write off why? said by Boogeyman :Maybe BBR should incorperate It's already owned by a LLC.
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Boogeyman
Drive it like you stole it
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join:2002-12-17
Huntsville, AL | Re: 600mil tax write off why? *Sigh* Another dream killed by a good clean headshot of fact. | |
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| Sammer
join:2005-12-22
Canonsburg, PA
| said by Kearnstd :didnt they sell something? shouldnt they have to infact pay tax on that sale? Technically it's a reverse morris trust where Verizon spun something off to their shareholders rather than a sale. | |
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Boogeyman
Drive it like you stole it
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join:2002-12-17
Huntsville, AL | Re: 600mil tax write off why? I have no idea what that means. Can you elaborate? | |
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58ef2c0
Premium,ExMod 2000-03
join:2000-05-11
·AT&T Midwest
| Re: 600mil tax write off why? said by Boogeyman :I have no idea what that means. Can you elaborate? This might help. Think of it as creating a separate company which then merges with another. The VZ shareholders have an interest in spinoff and become shareholders of the resulting merged company as well.
The idea is to not have a "sale" which triggers things like capital gains taxes, etc., but more of a reorganization. That's not a fully accurate description though...the technicals are pretty complex to pass both the IRS and court ruling conditions.
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| Kearnstd
Elf Wizard
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join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ | so basicly with a slight of hand and some fancy paperwork corporations can buy and sell divisions/assets tax free?
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join:2005-12-22
Canonsburg, PA
| Re: 600mil tax write off why? said by Kearnstd :with a slight of hand and some fancy paperwork It's actually called the Bar as in legal profession. If your a multi-billion dollar corporation you too can for a price benefit from laws written of, for, and by lawyers. | |
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| Kearnstd
Elf Wizard
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join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ | im sure they could claim your IP transerfed some of their movies. i mean you dont even need a PC to get sued!
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Matt_
@comcast.net | Comcast New England waiting to Pounce? I Wonder if the execs at Comcast are just waiting for Fiarpoint to fail in New England so they can buy the lines at a steal and have the market to themselves | |
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| EPS
join:2008-02-13
Hingham, MA | Re: Comcast New England waiting to Pounce? But why would Comcast want telephone lines? | |
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join:2007-06-25
Manchester, NH | Re: Comcast New England waiting to Pounce? so comcast can have a traditional pstn to work off of instead of their private voip system that is remarkable, but still isnt a pstn network | |
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ME
join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH
·Time Warner Cable
·buckeye cable
| Re: Comcast New England waiting to Pounce? they don't want PSTN. They're shutting that network down. But hell if you own all the customers you can pretty much control everything. Maybe Comcast would split them off to their own company. or TWC and Comcast buy them form a separate company- and be done with it. | |
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| Kearnstd
Elf Wizard
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join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ | Re: FIOS in NH they cant legally. everyone who got FiOS that is their land line as the copper no longer goes to their home.
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| | patcat88
join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY | Re: FIOS in NH Will they allow new customers onto what was built? or is FIOS grandfathered and all new service orders will be over copper? | |
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| EPS
join:2008-02-13
Hingham, MA | As far as I know they'll keep it but won't expand it- but I wonder about maintenance, if parts of it go down in a storm will Fairpoint have the capability to rebuild it or will they just replace it with copper? | |
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roymustang
Premium
join:2002-01-12
Oxford, MS | My condolences to the new Fairpoint customers. | |
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majortom1029
join:2006-10-19
Lindenhurst, NY | wifi Wouldnt it be easier for fairpoint to do wimax or wifi to their customers acrosss these states instead of dsl? | |
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retrogame
join:2003-04-14
Auburn, MA | Re: wifi Which is why almost every one of them has antennas and other stuff at the peak.  | |
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fioscannotbe
@fidelity.com | Verizon Sells ME, NH, VT Networks Once Fairpoint goes belly up in a couple of years, Verizon will pick it up for a song, and resell it. Why would they keep it they didn't want us in the first place. Screw Verizon, and the fiber they rode in on. | |
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daslog
join:2002-04-10
Milford, NH | hmmm So When do we get a Fairpoint Telco Forum!!?? | |
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Nafets
join:2003-08-20 |  Touch my FIOS and die, Fairpoint...
Although I do wonder if routing will still go through Verizon's network or if we'll be routed through whatever Fairpoint has going on (affecting speeds, pings, etc). | |
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shoe1
join:2007-09-28
Colfax, CA
2 edits | Re: Touch my FIOS and die, Fairpoint... The article said linelands and dsl networks...no where did they mention FOiS networks...if verizon invested in your area I bet there are keeping that area. | |
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dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
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join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ | Guess who. . . . . Officially has no hope of ever getting fios now! | |
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Wyntre
@paetec.net
| Rates and plans? Can anyone point me to a current rate plan offered by Fairpoint for phone and data services in New England? All their web page says today first official day of service is to stay tuned for more information.
also, there is plenty of talk about phone rates being "locked in" for the next five years (yeah right!) but what about DSL rates for existing customers? Are those locked in too?
I run a small business in New Hampshire and part of that is advising customers on what services to purchase. Kind of tough to do that without some knowledge. | |
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| hottboiinnc
ME
join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH | Re: Rates and plans? good luck on getting pricng. They service Ohio and i'm unable to get pricing from their Ohio service site. Seems that you have to call for rough pricing for any of their areas. | |
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@verizon.net
| Not a good start... I'm in Vermont and for what it's worth can offer my own personal Fairpoint DSL anecdote.
I signed up for Verizon DSL last month then got my first bill on 4/1, the day my service became Fairpoint. The bill had none of the promotions they said they'd provide (first month free, no activation fee, no modem fee, and the monthly fee was even higher 33.95 instead of 29.95 for 3.0 ADSL). None of this is Fairpoint's fault of course.
But when I called Fairpoint they said of course they would not honor the deal that the Verizon folks had er... not honored. Since someone asked what the service is now, all they could quote me was $33.95 / month for 3.0 Mb and they would charge $19.95 for activation and $39.95 for the modem.
When I told them they had raised the rates on their first day, they argued that the Verizon rate was an "online promotion" not their actual rate (???) I asked what their online promotion was, and they said they don't have a working website yet...
Pretty clear writing on the wall for me; I'm off to find another ISP. | |
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batterup
I Can Not Tell A Lie.
Premium
join:2003-02-06
Netcong, NJ
clubs: | You asked for it. Ma Bell is dead any yet the people bitch. That was a brilliant move by Maine meddling in the NSA/Verizon situation.
Now Maine doesn't have Verizon to kick around anymore. | |
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Verizon Sells ME, NH, VT Networks
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Wheres My DSL!!
I can feel another goverment bail out coming soon.