Verizon Says They'll Stick To 700Mhz ConditionsSays Google filing 'has no legal basis' 08:41AM Wednesday May 07 2008 by Karltags: competition · business · wireless · Verizon Wireless BroadbandThe other day, Google issued a filing with the FCC saying that Verizon was planning to wiggle out of the conditions attached to their winning bid for 700Mhz spectrum. According to Google, Verizon is apparently planning to legally argue that the rules don't apply to their own phones, only third party phones subscribed to the company's yet to be launched "open access" wireless broadband tier. In a posting to their policy blog, Verizon, a master of " changing the rules and furthering their own business interests through the regulatory process", accuses Google of, well, read for yourself: Google's filing has no legal basis. It's really no surprise that despite not winning spectrum, they continue to try to change the rules and further their own business interests through the regulatory process. We expect to file at the Federal Communications Commission within the next several days on this matter. Verizon Wireless - and all the other participants in the recent 700 MHz spectrum auction - understood the FCC's rules for using that spectrum in advance of the auction. Of course we'll abide by those rules. As we work to put the spectrum we won to good use, if Google or anybody else has evidence that we aren't playing by the rules, there are legitimate and expedited ways to address that. I still believe Verizon's open access pledge is about making consumer application/device choice a luxury tier, while giving their own, crippled devices marketing priority. The proof will be in the pudding later this year. Google of course could have bid to win at auction, then outsourced the build to someone else if they wanted to avoid Verizon lawyers doing what they do best: dodging legal obligations.
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ropeguru
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clubs: | Given the current FCC structure... Can almost guarantee they will get around it for their own phones. | |
| CycloneGT
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May 7th, @10:47AM
| Google didn't spend any money. Frack google, they didn't win the auction. Heck, they only played a game of manipulation to get what they want, and they expect Verizon to spend 100s of millions of dollars to build the 700mhz network for them to use.
I fully, expect Verizon to try to screw everyone, because to the victor go the spoils. They won the auction, they will implement what they want to implement. If google was really heart set on "open access" then they should have ponied up the dollars and won the auction.
Now we all get to enjoy paying extra for non crippled phones. | |
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Jameson
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clubs:  | Re: Google didn't spend any money. And there's something wrong with that? | |
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join:2005-01-25 | Re: Google didn't spend any money. I think the point is, if you didn't spend the money, keep you nose out of Verizon's business. | |
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Jameson
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clubs: | Re: Google didn't spend any money. Why? If Verizon is planning on doing something shady and I was Google..you can be sure that I would call you out. | |
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Larrabee, IA
| Well it IS Google's business... Verizon bought the spectrum with full knowledge that it was to be open to third parties. Perhaps Verizon shouldn't have spent the money if they aren't willing to honor the spirit of the agreement. Not like the terms were buried in fine print.
Course, maybe Hell froze over and Verizon ends up being 100% open.  | |
| NOCMan
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May 7th, @12:09PM
| 700Mhz will go to LTE most likely It makes sense from a deployment stance that this new spectrum will allow a quick transition to LTE when the carrier is able to begin use of the spectrum. This eliminates the need of eeking out a carrier on a tower and adding LTE on that band. In this case they just install the new radios and put up new antennas.
So yes they will be able to limit who's using the 700mhz by a technological barrier. VZW devices will be able to use these first and anything else will either trickle in later or VZ will go to the FCC saying there's no interest in a attempt to get the open access rules dropped.
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| I don't see the problem Google is interpreting "Any Application, Any Device" to mean any device on the network has to be able to run any application. But as long as the option is there, why shouldn't VZ be able to sell cheaper crippled handsets? Assuming they will try to migrate all users from CDMA to LTE at some point, why should someone like me, who mostly uses my phone to just call, have to pay extra because Google wants all phones to be able to access Google.com (that's all they really care about)? | |
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VaselineUser
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| My my my.... Google sees lots of money in the wireless arena. They're going to do all they can to push their applications out by every means possible.
Google got a lot of publicity the first time around and is hoping to do the same thing now.
I too am for an open network, but I know Google is in it for themselves and not for the consumer. They want to maximize profits and will present their case to the FCC like they're fighting for us, but in reality it's for their own profit.
Verizon will allow their new network to be open up to unlocked CDMA devices and will allow Google apps to be sold through them. However, they'll continue to sell devices in tune with their current business model where they make the most of their money.
Google had the opportunity to buy airwaves. They then filled up the blog sites bragging how they got what they wanted and had no real intention of paying for anything. Now they are all upset and crying foul. I think Google should put up or shut up. | |
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Allentown, PA
| Re: My my my.... I don't like it at times but I can see why Verizon chooses to cripple phones.
They do have the best network arguably I think maybe not having to deal with 1 million open source geeks cramming the network with uneccesary traffic is part of that.
I had a Cingular phone prior to VZ and Sprint prior to Cingular.
Sprint sucked...hard especially out of PA. Cingular sucked in my town and got better the farther you left untill again out of PA.
VZ works no matter where I take it without any hassles, always has.
Worked in Jamacia, worked fine where even the VZ rep told me I might be lucky if I get a call out.
VZ won the bid and yes they must allow thrid parties but I think they will do it on their terms which IMHO seems well within reason. | |
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