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Telco adds state to Fios list
(old news - 09:27AM Tuesday Feb 15 2005)
tags: Fiber
Last spring, Verizon told New Jersey that because their state Board of Public Utilities ruled they could only "moderately increase" the wholesale rates the bell charges competitors, the state might not see Verizon Fios (as punishment). Apparently the state and telco have made up, as this NewJersey.com report claims fiber is coming "soon". Last spring, Verizon warned "it is difficult to make a case to the corporation to invest here given the regulatory environment."

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53059959
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PwnZone

a party with friends

verizon just wanted to be invited to the party with benjamin, grant, and jackson.
SoulBrewGone

join:2005-01-01
Emporia, KS

Re: a party with friends

Name one business that doesn't.

newcustomerbase

@optonline.net

Verizon is finally getting the picture that they can't increase shareholder value by raising prices... the next best thing... buy out your main copperline competitor, MCI (worldcom) the idea being to get bigger this brings back a several million copper lines that were officially with a clec now back with an ilec. (competitive carreir versus an incumbant carrier - re: 1986 telco breakup) The branches of the rboc are connecting witht the trunk again only divided by east and west coasts.. att on one side... mci on the other.. and sprint is making beautiful music with nextel.
Only problem is the deployment of fiber will take years to complete by that time wireless will have gone though a broadband revolution with minimal blackout areas in the country, creating unlimited calling plans, push to talk and video/data.
My gues is the sprint/nextel without a mainway into a bundle will have to side with a cableco(or two) for quad-play servives. Internet,Phone(wireless/wireline), TV, pushtotalk, wireless data

aefstoggaflm
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Bethlehem, PA

They need to come to Bethlehem, PA too. Do not leave us in the dark!
Mizfit

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Whitehall, PA

Re: Bethlehem, PA

Good luck with that one. Lehigh Valley = PA's broadband blackhole...

aefstoggaflm
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Re: Bethlehem, PA

quote:
PA's broadband blackhole
What do you mean by that?
Mizfit

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Whitehall, PA

Re: Bethlehem, PA

I mean, you can barely get real broadband in any parts of it. It's dominated by Service Electric and RCN One way cable modems, which is hardly real broadband.

aefstoggaflm
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Re: Bethlehem, PA

I have Verzion Online DSL service. Some people have two-way cable modem service. I do not, nor can get, have two-way cable service.

cliffmarc

join:2002-02-19
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said by aefstoggaflm See Profile:

They need to come to Bethlehem, PA too. Do not leave us in the dark!
They better get here soon !!!!!!!

ColdFiltered

join:2005-01-25
Atlanta, GA

Does this mean ...

Verizon will be expanding beyond their $75 Million, 65,000-household initial FIOS plans? Or, does it mean a previously targeted location is getting axed as a result?

xdeadhead
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Re: Does this mean ...

you can bet somewhere else got axed. with the addition of mci, now they have even less money to pretend to spend on fios. they have already axed several locations around here, but "they" say the list changes weekly. so stay tuned.

ColdFiltered

join:2005-01-25
Atlanta, GA

Re: Does this mean ...

Why they would want to purchase WorldCon is beyond me.
ossito16

join:2004-07-31
Whiting, IN

Re: Does this mean ...

I have been waiting to see someone recognize the criminal corp worldcon. they think now because name changes they will escape the crimes they committed.

Jim_F
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Caldwell, NJ
Had they already reached the limits of those plans?

mb

join:2000-07-23
Washington, NJ

Good News

Makes sense, we are the most densely populated state in the union...

ColdFiltered

join:2005-01-25
Atlanta, GA

Re: Good News

And exactly how does this make 'sense'?

amenite
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Re: Good News

said by ColdFiltered See Profile:

And exactly how does this make 'sense'?
Highest ratio of potential customers per mile of fiber laid maybe? And a good test market to go head to head with Optimum Online.
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DonLibes
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Re: Good News

said by amenite See Profile:

said by ColdFiltered See Profile:

And exactly how does this make 'sense'?
Highest ratio of potential customers per mile of fiber laid maybe? And a good test market to go head to head with Optimum Online.
The other reason it makes sense, NJ has a better "regulatory climate" now (tax breaks, pledges not to regulate, etc.

VinceA

join:2000-08-29
Bayonne, NJ

FIOS is about the only way Verizon is going to get more money out of me at the moment. I'm an Optimum Online subscriber and I'm moving most of my home phone service to Vonage (keeping one line with Verizon since I'm a little paranoid about not having any landline service at all - I might get over it eventually). So, it would be sort of ironic to move phones to broadband but get the broadband from Verizon
Mizfit

join:2002-06-05
Whitehall, PA

Makes sense to me...

It makes sense that they can pass alot more homes with a single run of fiber. Business wise, it makes mucho sense, not to mention there is a ton of money in NJ. And that's what Verizon is catering too...
xrobertcmx
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Am I alone in thinking

That it is high time the state governments stood up to the ILEC's? I know money is what makes politics go round, but this is getting to be a matter of who is the boss.
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jjoshua
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Scotch Plains, NJ

Blah blah blah

It's all just talk until I see a truck come to my house to hook it up.
Mordhem
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Baltimore, MD

Re: Blah blah blah

Well if any one can make it happen, its Verizon.

Don't doubt the power Verizon has running behind it.
Considering they could burn 1mill and not even notice it.

jjoshua
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Scotch Plains, NJ

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Re: Blah blah blah

Sure.

I live in Union County, NJ and I'm 18k+ feet from my CO so I can't get DSL.

They can run new fiber to my house but they can't do anything about my current line length.
gateguy
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Reisterstown, MD
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I think it would be cheaper for them to run fiber

I think you are expecting them to move the CO closer to your house or are you expecting them to move your house closer to the CO?

DSL has limitations. Get over it. I cant DSL either. I have to wait for fbier
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mustang03282

join:2003-01-10
Bridgeton, NJ
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Re: I think it would be cheaper for them to run fi

well from what ive heard verizon moves houses faster then they move co's

rawgerz
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bombshell?

"That makes 13 states where Verizon workers are digging up streets, installing boxes on phone poles and replacing traditional copper phone lines with thin glass fibers that transmit data at the speed of light"
so they are actually replacing copper lines, so wether you like it or not your stuck with verizon as a internet provider,(unless you have a cable co,wifi, ect.) i dont think some people that only check their email on dial up are going to like that idea. if its still in its "trial" stages why would they rip up the copper lines? sounds to me like verizons planning on going legit with it and America will wake up one morning to nothing but fiber and verizon will own it all
of course i wouldent mind having a super high speed 3 millisecond connection, but with the many many ignorant people with infected computers with no security i can see a big virus problem
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gateguy
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Re: bombshell?

what makes you think that your dial up modem wont work over the voice spectrum portion of the fiber?

In other words the fiber doesnt know or call that a dial up modem is connected to the phone line... it will carry it just like it will carry your voice
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rawgerz
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Grove City, PA

Re: bombshell?

someone correct me if im wrong but, dialup is analog, fios is digital so how can it work on digital lines?
Skippy25

join:2000-09-13
Hazelwood, MO

Re: bombshell?

I would imagine the same was as it does now.

You may have copper, but eventually somewhere your copper is hitting fiber regardless of what is linking to it.

mustang03282

join:2003-01-10
Bridgeton, NJ
clubs:
if your dialup modem works over voip on a cable line why wouldnt it work over voip on a fiber line
cobo6

join:2002-02-18
Willingboro, NJ

Verizon Fios, NJ

This make me so happy, that NJ will get fiber soon. Oh happy day. Now i can go on with my life worry free that i (someday) will get my fiber.

I hope burlington County gets it first.

Optimized
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Pompton Lakes, NJ
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Send it my way ...

quote:
Sources say FiOS will be deployed in more than a dozen towns in Bergen and Passaic counties, as well as elsewhere in the state.
I have a CO down the street in Wayne

I sure hope that is one of them getting FiOS ...
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mbnt

join:2002-06-22
Clifton, NJ

Re: Send it my way ...

I cannot await the day FIOS is available for me, I am dropping Optimum Online so fast they can go where the sun don't shine!!!

Try to regulate upstreams then, biOtches!!!

Jim_F
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Caldwell, NJ

Picking and choosing

Elsewhere in the country where Fios installations are already underway, has Verizon typically targetted communities where there is mainly new residential construction and growing local economies, or have they been targetting communities where there is already existing houses and businesses?

Just wondering, for curiosuty sake, how Verizon goes about determining where they plan on installing Fios.

-jim
cobo6

join:2002-02-18
Willingboro, NJ

My verizon theory

they are Probably going to stay in North Jersey because of the more Big Business up there.

WorkinClsDog
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Piscataway, NJ


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Re: My verizon theory

I'd be willing to lay money on North Jersey first (especially the high-income cities), then Central - that was their strategy early on with DSL - they go where the high $$$ customers are --- I think south Jersey will end up being last in line if they follow their typical build-out plan.
JohnE

join:2002-04-28

"Great News! You qualify .....

Closter NJ CO area gets a + hit on the Verizon Phone number qualification site.
"Great News! You qualify for Verizon Fios Internet Service. "

guest201767

@optonline.net

Re: "Great News! You qualify .....

I am housed in the Closter CO and 4 of my lines came up with only dsl available.
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