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Lorton, VA | Vz vs. Apple I can just see VCast taking over the ITunes store app.
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join:2009-04-07
New York, NY | Re: Vz vs. Apple Perhaps, Verizon might loosen up on this one....if they do allow App Store and iTunes instead of their Get it Now and V Cast Music or Rapsody. | |
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join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
| Re: Vz vs. Apple Not happening, brand dilution. Iphone is an integrated experience, Verizon wouldn't get it if it didn't play by Apple's rules. And fat chance of getting BREW (GetItNow) to run on an iPhone anyway, all its DRM will be quickly broken since it runs on Unix. | |
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| Big Dawg 23
join:2002-03-27
Northfield, MN | VZW doesn't put Vcast on Smart Phones. I have had both WinMo and now the Strm with neither having access to Vcast. | |
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baineschile
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Sterling Heights, MI | Apple Why would apple want an exclusive deal with any company? Look how popular Blackberry is. Apple, and all hardware in general, should be available to ALL carriers | |
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| jvanbrecht
join:2007-01-08
Bowie, MD | Re: Apple No where is it stated that Verizon is looking for an exclusivity deal with Apple. | |
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imrf
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join:2002-06-06
Utica, MI | Re: Apple He didn't say Verizon is looking for Apple exclusivity. He's questioning Apple's decision to be exclusive to AT&T only. Instead of being available to all carriers like Blackberry's are. | |
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flankspeed8
join:2001-07-20
Saint Paul, MN
clubs: | This is contrary to what Apple said last week....NO CDMA I would like to know where the truth stands behind this.....It seems that both camps have said that it will not happen yet stories keep getting written suggesting it will.....confused. Although I would love it to happen. | |
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TKJunkMail
Enjoy the sun
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join:2002-03-03
Avalon, NJ
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| Re: This is contrary to what Apple said last week....NO CDMA said by flankspeed8  :I would like to know where the truth stands behind this.....It seems that both camps have said that it will not happen yet stories keep getting written suggesting it will.....confused. Although I would love it to happen. Not if the Verizon iPhone is an LTE iPhone.No CDMA needed.
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join:2009-04-07
New York, NY
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| Re: This is contrary to what Apple said last week....NO CDMA CDMA chips will still be needed just in case you are in areas where there won't be LTE Coverage for data, so it can fall back to the EVDO Rev-A. I don't think if it does comes out for Verizon they will be that stupid not to have a cdma chip built-in with LTE chips. | |
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DaveNJ
No Fear
join:1999-09-01
New Jersey | There is a hybrid chip version which is GSM/cdma and LTE. | |
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TheTate
@buckeyecom.net | Wow... They're looking to move from one overpriced carrier to another. Yay Apple!
Still, I'd take VZ over AT&T any day. I have very high hopes for the Palm Pre; I'll be picking mine up when it (hopefully) comes out next month!
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jmn1207
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join:2000-07-19
Reston, VA | Re: Wow... Yep, Sprint exclusive for the initial launch, which is slated for the end of this month. (fingers crossed) The specs for the Palm Pre are exactly what I want. On paper, it is my dream phone, hope it doesn't disappoint. | |
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Eat Me
join:2002-09-25
Sussex, NJ | In my area it boils down to coverage.
Verizon has it, AT&T doesn't. If I drive less than half a mile within my subdivision I lose coverage on AT&T. | |
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join:2003-07-26
Kalispell, MT
| Re: Wow... Even more a coverage issue for me - I'm over 100 MILES from the nearest AT&T coverage (I'm in Kalispell, MT - the first substantial AT&T coverage is about 140 miles west in Bonners Ferry, ID; though there are three AT&T sites 120 miles south in Missoula, MT - the only AT&T coverage in the whole state of Montana - but they won't give you a Missoula phone number as they only really cover the University of Montana and a bit of the downtown area)
C'mon AT&T, buy Cellular One or the divested Alltel network (CellularOne please so I don't have to wait for my contract to be up  ) so we can get some iPhone goodness in Montana | |
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Madness
Like a flea circus at a dog show.
join:2000-01-05
Quincy, MA
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CO_Chris
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join:2001-08-28
Broomfield, CO | If true i can wait. I would be more then happy to get the Iphone on VZ I am due for a new phone in AUG for my new every 2 year and will be more then happy to go to month to month if this is true even it takes a year. | |
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dlewis23
join:2005-04-18
Boca Raton, FL | Not going to happen anytime soon. They are not going to do a CDMA version, and they are not going to do a LTE version until there coverage is much higher. 30 markets is not enough to launch the iPhone on verizon. | |
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| gopnick
join:2005-01-07
Benton, AR
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| Re: Not going to happen anytime soon. said by dlewis23 :They are not going to do a CDMA version, and they are not going to do a LTE version until there coverage is much higher. 30 markets is not enough to launch the iPhone on verizon. Unfortunately, this is probably correct.  | |
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join:2005-04-18
Boca Raton, FL | Re: Not going to happen anytime soon. Once AT&T gets there network in check, this wont be a problem. Hopefully by the end of this year with all the things they are doing, there network will no longer be as big of an issue. | |
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join:2001-07-20
Saint Paul, MN
clubs: | Re: Not going to happen anytime soon. How long have we been hearing this? Integration and major expansion has been underway at at&t for years... | |
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join:2005-04-18
Boca Raton, FL
| Re: Not going to happen anytime soon. Yes but they are finally doing it, probably because apple is telling them they have to pick up the pace.
Just look at there 3G coverage map from last year when the iPhone 3G launched, and look at the one for today. Its a huge difference in the year they have had to improve it. | |
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join:2007-01-15
Hampton, NH
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| Re: Not going to happen anytime soon. Don't forget the need for the iPhone to run Adobe Flash. Man, I can't believe they dropped the ball on that.
Even so, it's a great device. iPod Touch user here. I tried a Samsung Instinct and Blackberry Storm. Use either device then pick up an iPhone and you will immediately get what all the hype is about.
My utterly tech illiterate sister-in-law left Verizon for AT&T and the iPhone and she loves it. Conversely, my ultra tech savvy IBM buddy got an iPhone and also says the pros outweigh the cons. With iPods and Mac sales down, the iPhone kept profits up at Apple.
That is saying a lot about a device that hasn't reached its full potential | |
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join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY | How about multitasking with a iPhone legally? Not happening, WiMo can minimize and multitask from day one. 3rd party apps and open source are also allowed on WiMo. How about copy pasting on iPhone? Java? Flash? | |
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mech1164
I'Ll Be Back
join:2001-11-19
Lodi, NJ
| Re: Not going to happen anytime soon. said by patcat88 :How about multitasking with a iPhone legally? Not happening, WiMo can minimize and multitask from day one. 3rd party apps and open source are also allowed on WiMo. How about copy pasting on iPhone? Java? Flash? And still with all that not there it's busting records. If Iphone OS3 works as expected and new hardware comes down the pike. Watch out there will even be more people gladly giving up those hard earned dollars for this.
OpenSource? Look at Android been out for months on Tmo and just now getting some decent numbers. Lot of talk about more Android Handsets, all vaporware till the final drop.
I for one are torn between the Palm Pre or the New Iphone. Been with Tmo for years and on whole had great service. One area I'm in that is close to where I live is a Known Dead zone. Has been for years and not getting better by town restrictions. Now ATT and Sprint have better coverage there. Tmo is no service. Seeing that I'm spending more time there a switch is in the air. Just waiting for the new stuff before I jump. | |
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axiomatic
join:2006-08-23
Tomball, TX | Dump the losers Man I would dump ATT in a heartbeat if this actually comes to fruition. Go Verizon! | |
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Matt
Take me down to the paradise city
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join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
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| It will happen Apple won't sign an exclusivity agreement unless AT&T can work a deal where all existing iPhone customers can upgrade to the new iPhone when it's released cheaply, but with AT&T paying a huge incentive to Apple. They'd be horribly stupid to sign another deal ... why close off 83 million potential Verizon customers when you've gobbled up about the highest percentage of AT&T customers that you're going to get.
Now whether it is CDMA or LTE is anyone's guess. I would be willing to bet that if Apple doesn't think Verizon will have LTE deployed widely enough they'll absolutely release a CDMA version. Hell, 2010 is only 8 months away and we're in a recession. Apple absolutely wants those 83 million potential customers. And if they release a CDMA version for Verizon it's only a hop-skip and jump to CDMA for Sprint. That's another 50 million customers or so. | |
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| fiberguy
My views are my own.
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join:2005-05-20
| Re: It will happen I agree with what you're saying.. however, I can't help but wonder how the Palm Pre is going to play into, or out of, favor for Sprint. The Pre is squarely aimed at the iPhone and will probably put the iPhone to shame with ONE exception - the app store and some of the accessories.
I have an iTouch and do love it. They did a pretty good job but has lots of room to improve which will in version 3 of the o/s. The Pre, I'm afraid, is going to be pretty walled in and going to take the fun out of actually having that phone... and it's the "FUN" that draws people to these kinds of phone.
But, back to what you're saying. There are many people that avoid certain companies for what ever reason so there is always a large market that won't go to one provider or another. I believe you're right in numbers in theory, but I think that apple, like the NFL, will roll over in the end and stay with American Thieves & Thugs for the provider.
Apple LOVES to pulls these PR "keep 'em guessing and talking - free advertising for our product" stunts too. They talk about something, costs them nothing to do so, everyone is a buzz, the product is on everyone's lips and nothing changes in the end. | |
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join:2004-10-12
Las Vegas, NV
| Re: It will happen said by fiberguy :The Pre, I'm afraid, is going to be pretty walled in and going to take the fun out of actually having that phone... and it's the "FUN" that draws people to these kinds of phone. i'm just curious why you suspect this. everything tha i've ever read about the device seems to be contrary to this position. | |
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My views are my own.
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join:2005-05-20
| Re: It will happen Well, what makes the iPhone something more than an MP3 player with a phone in it are it's apps. I have used an iPhone before and I have the iTouch. To be honest, until they came out with the app store, their applications were pretty lackluster.
To this day, I use the built in email app, calculator, and calendar. Other than that, most of the things that make these devices worth anything are the apps developed by other people.
I use the weather channel's weather app, not the phone's app. I have downloaded apps like Facebook, Ebay, Paypal, google earth, MySpace, Amazon, restaurant guides/locate, Yahoo's chat, etc. None of these apps were put out by apple.
Open applications are what make the iPhone worth a damn. Otherwise, it's just a phone with an MP3 player win it.
So, my question is, will Palm be able to make that phone capable of keeping people's attention? I believe that the phone will be a nice phone, however, if all it can do is the stock canned apps that come with it, they had better be good. AND the fact they are canned and unless they open up for developers and 'make them low cost or free'.. well, then the Palm Pre is going to wind up being yet just another phone with a pretty interface.
I haven't read anything about a large community standing in line to develop apps for the pre. What have you been reading that is "contrary to this position?" | |
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My views are my own.
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join:2005-05-20
| Re: It will happen Okay, gotchya!
"According to Palm, the Mojo SDK has only been available to a select group of partners. Now, the handset maker said, it will be pushed out to a broader set of developers that apply for access to the program via the Palm Developer Network Web site. Palm said access into the program will be limited at the offset, as the tools and systems are retooled. General availability is expected later this year."
Many have had their SDKs out there, just as Palm themselves have had before. Microsoft's window's mobile has one as well. BUT, still, iPhone's has been successful because of the app store and how the revenue works on that. Also, include the fact that there are a ton of apple freaks out there in the apple community which makes their program strong.
Take Windows Mobile. There are "partners" and other developers out there that make certain apps. I have a facebook app, google maps app, both free. Hell, to buy a game of solitaire for WM is $19.99.
It's all going to boil down to how creative Palm gets with their SDK and how many units of the Pre they can push out to see if there will be people out there wiling to take the plunge and make apps for the Pre like they did the iPhone.
The community, behind iPhone, is what makes the apps strong. | |
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puffgussy36
join:2007-01-15
Hampton, NH
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| No Carriers Totally wishful thinking here but I'd be for NO cell carriers having the iPhone (or Palm for that matter).
I'd like ubiquitous superfast wi-fi or wi-max networks. We have a wireless network at home and my wife's iPod Touch surfs very fast on it. It annoys me to no end how much the business side of all of this gets in the way of the potential of the technology.
Who am I kidding. Even if the ISP's rolled it (city-wide wi-fi) out, they would soak us for access. Granted they typically bill flat-fee for unlimited (download caps aside). No minutes to track and the like.
But this is totally wishful thinking because it's too good a scenario for the consumer and too costly for the providers which equals dead in the water. | |
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join:2005-04-14
Nashua, NH
| Verizon ... just say " NO" ... If Verizon was smart .... the word is "IF"
they would design their own or select the
Palm Pre instead ...
Another thing they should be doing ...
DROP your PRICES ....
You should be selling your wireless services
for $40 with no limit for calls ... $50
with calls and text ... and $60 with
all 3 data,calls and text ...
Also ... no contracts ...
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join:2001-09-25
Memphis, TN
| Re: Verizon ... just say " NO" ... said by GenBlood :If Verizon was smart .... the word is "IF" they would design their own or select the Palm Pre instead ... Another thing they should be doing ... DROP your PRICES .... You should be selling your wireless services for $40 with no limit for calls ... $50 with calls and text ... and $60 with all 3 data,calls and text ... Also ... no contracts ... You would get more customers in the long run ... Ain't gonna happen...... too much like right. | |
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PGHammer
join:2003-06-09
Accokeek, MD
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| Re: Verizon ... just say " NO" ... Gadgetry, gadgetry. Quite honestly, I'd prefer a lower-priced version of the Blackberry Storm over the iPhone.
Why?
I don't do e-mail (which is why I'm not hep on most Blackberries anyway) on a phone, and I'd much rather do SMS messaging (as opposed to MMS), and, thanks to onerous SMS rates, I'd do that using PC-based messaging clients (such as Yahoo Messenger) as opposed to ANY phone-based SMS/MMS client.
Also, I just plain hate iTunes; putting iTunes on a phone merely increases the loathe-factor.
Then there's VZW's network coverage, which I have NEVER had an issue with, locally or anywhere else.
Lastly, the Storm not only supports MP3 playback (directly), it can actually sync with a PC (wired OR wireless). My quibble with the Storm is the price; it's not as expensive as the iPhone, but it's not cheap, either. (The biggest quibble I have with VZW these days is that the Storm is actually the least-expensive phone they have with all the features I actually want and would use, with the MOTOROKR officially dead.) | |
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join:2005-04-24
Woodstock, GA | Re: Verizon ... just say " NO" ... I never got the IPhone because AT&T. If I have a good phone I would like a good service/coverage as well. If this is true and if it happens, I would not think it twice to get it with Verizon. | |
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join:2001-06-15
Long Island
clubs: | No SIM? FAIL If this new iPhone does not have a sim and cant be unlocked for use on GSM networks world wide it will be a total FAIL.
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