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join:2005-04-25 Homestead, FL | Woopie And they are happy about 100,000? | |
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 |  Cod
join:2000-07-05 Greensboro, NC
| Re: Woopie Umm, since its in its infancy and just starting to roll out to major markets, yes- quite happy.
I hardly consider 5 thousand installs a week shabby since they've only been heavily marketing the service for 2 quarters, contrary to the FUD spreaders here who already declare the service "dead". | |
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 |   ib50MbSoon Formerly TwoKDialup Premium join:2002-06-07 Coloma, MI
| said by flycuban :And they are happy about 100,000? Hey, it's not easy selling a tv service with only 1 HD stream. In fact, I suspect that Mike Rowe and the Dirty Jobs film crew will soon be riding around with a U-Farse salesman filming just how nasty a job it really is.  -- Meet Bill and Karolyn at www.theslowskys.com | |
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| Re: Woopie said by ib50MbSoon :Hey, it's not easy selling a tv service with only 1 HD stream. In fact, I suspect that Mike Rowe and the Dirty Jobs film crew will soon be riding around with a U-Farse salesman filming just how nasty a job it really is. Nice propaganda, coming from a poster who has a link in his sig to a Comcast owned and operated site. | |
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| Re: Woopie said by Cod : Nice propaganda, coming from a poster who has a link in his sig to a Comcast owned and operated site. Yup, Comcast services have me spoiled rotten. 
-- Meet Bill and Karolyn at www.theslowskys.com | |
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join:2004-02-05 Tinley Park, IL
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| Re: Woopie You must be in a good service area if you can say that... I had horrible service from Comcrapsticks. The HD signal was very poor. It would constantly freeze up and/or the audio would not be in sync and sometimes wouldn't play for half the program. The DVR they provided me would lock up all the time to the point that I'd have to unplug the box to get it to respond again... Oh, and during the last six months that I was with them they raised my rate by over $20 a month... I'm quite happy to be rid of them, and can't wait for U-verse to go live in my area. For now tho, I'm extremely happy with my AT&T DSL and AT&T Homezone w/ Dish Network. I get great inexpensive RELIABLE dsl and a TV service that has more HD than ANY provider (for now anyway) out there.  | |
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 |   KrK Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy Premium join:2000-01-17 Tulsa, OK | Almost all of those people are on introductory offers atm.
With only 1 HD stream.... we'll see what happens when churn kicks in as their offers expire. | |
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 |   Jodokast96 R.I.P Bassman442 Premium join:2005-11-23 Erial, NJ | Just curious, how long did it take Verizon to hit 100,000 with FIOS? | |
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join:2000-07-05 Greensboro, NC | Re: No proof AT&T only picks rich neighborhoods Even if it is/was true, god forbid a company trying to obtain a ROI for initial buildouts... I don't see any laws being broken. Its called business. | |
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 |  |   punker deleted by moderator Premium join:2004-06-21 Palmdale, CA clubs: edit: September 5th, @12:21PM
| Re: No proof AT&T only picks rich neighborhoods This area is getting it
Might As well KEEP TWC HSI/VOICE it DIRT cheap 79$
i get
10/1 and 6/512 too Volce Over cable | |
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 |   pnh102 Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty Premium join:2002-05-02 Mount Airy, MD
| said by TK Junk Mail :Nice statement. But there is no proof offered or available that this is the case. And constant repetition doesn't make it true. I think it is a mistake to try to refute this claim. Refuting it makes it sound like cherry-picking is a bad thing, which it isn't.
Companies don't have to apologize for avoiding activities which are eventual money pits. -- Only SHATNER is Kirk. | |
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join:2002-01-22 00000 clubs: | Re: No proof AT&T only picks rich neighborhoods if cherry picking was a GOOD thing, everyone outside of dense cities would have no phone service. so maybe you should qualify your statements...unless you are one of those "country folk should move to da city if 'n deys wants telephony!" | |
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| Re: No proof AT&T only picks rich neighborhoods said by morbo :unless you are one of those "country folk should move to da city if 'n deys wants telephony!" I am one of those people. -- Only SHATNER is Kirk. | |
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join:2002-01-22 00000 clubs: | Re: No proof AT&T only picks rich neighborhoods you are ridiculous. | |
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join:2006-03-01 Perris, CA
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| said by pnh102 :said by morbo :unless you are one of those "country folk should move to da city if 'n deys wants telephony!" I am one of those people. LOL | |
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 |   Cabal Premium join:2007-01-21 Boston, MA | Shame on them for not picking the unprofitable neighborhoods for deployment!  | |
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 |  BF69
join:2004-07-28 Camden, TN
| said by TK Junk Mail :AT&T picks the most profitable neighborhoods for deployment Nice statement. But there is no proof offered or available that this is the case. And constant repetition doesn't make it true. Ok saying "AT&T picks the most profitable neighborhoods for deployment." Doesn't mean they are deploying in the RICHEST neighborhoods.
Take 2 areas, one has millionaires and has 200 residences, the other is a middle class area same size but has 3000. Which area is going to be "most profitable" for at&t? It's not the "rich" area. | |
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 |   Richard B Fur It Up
join:2007-06-22 Portland, OR edit: September 5th, @11:10AM
| If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it."
Joseph Goebbels How many times we heard about cherry picking. | |
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 |  |   KrK Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy Premium join:2000-01-17 Tulsa, OK | Re: No proof AT&T only picks rich neighborhoods Catch is, it has to be a lie. | |
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join:2001-01-26 Valencia, CA | I agree... the Santa Clarita (Newhall) mobile home park had Uverse before they even started working on the site for Uverse in my area. -- Canada = Hollywood North | |
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| Re: No proof AT&T only picks rich neighborhoods People mistake the issues. ATT determines the relative cost to install the service in a location. Then they guess the estimated numbers of customers. Now this may suprise people but the number of customers you get in most neighborhoods isn't altogether that different. "Rich" neighborhoods just tend to be newer houses and have newer easier to upgrade lines or had new plant set to facilitate the demand for luxury regulated items like ISDN, T1, and multiple phone lines. | |
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| Re: No proof AT&T only picks rich neighborhoods said by bogey780 :People mistake the issues. ATT determines the relative cost to install the service in a location. Then they guess the estimated numbers of customers. Now this may suprise people but the number of customers you get in most neighborhoods isn't altogether that different. "Rich" neighborhoods just tend to be newer houses and have newer easier to upgrade lines or had new plant set to facilitate the demand for luxury regulated items like ISDN, T1, and multiple phone lines. These same new neighborhoods tend to have larger properties thus there are LESS potential customers. Just because someone is a millonaire doesn't mean they are going to drop what they have now for at&t. In fact it's much more likely that a "poorer" neighborhood would since they would be more apt to want to save every penny they can. And of course "poorer" neighrborhoods have smaller properties so ther are more residences per square mile, acre or however you want to measure it. | |
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| Re: No proof AT&T only picks rich neighborhoods I agree... a there's 2 VRADs attached to my HOA (420 homes). There's 1 VRAD in Newhall mobile home park, and covers the adjacent homes as well. The density is at least ~ 2:1 for mobile homes vs. houses here.
This is one of the reasons Verizon likes the highly populated eastern corridor (NYC/MA/CT/VA/DE, etc.) vs. the lower density states that AT&T has IL, MI, TX, CA, NV, IN, OH, TN, KY, etc.) -- Canada = Hollywood North | |
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join:2004-03-19 Covington, LA | All calculated into the formula they use to "cherry pick". | |
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 |  Tigerpaw509 Premium join:2006-07-15 Huntley, IL | Agreed,I work for ATT and you should see some of the aera's getting wired.As matter of fact I bet one in three homes actually has a auto that works | |
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@verizon.net | Re: Why isn't there I know, the whole cherry picking argument is quite old already. Its simply a smart business choice. To make money you need money. | |
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join:2006-06-19 North Olmsted, OH
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| Hey if their happy then it must be a good thing for them! I think if their customer base increasing and they are happy with passing 100,000. Then they are on a good start. I know I'll be happy when the service is turned on in my area. The boxes have been sitting for a year. So I hope we will see U-verse service soon. I have been with 1.5Mbps for awhile which has been...ok. But the idea of 6Mbps with 1Mbps upload is sounding great! The best part will be the upload speed and tv service! | |
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join:2002-01-17 Dallas, TX edit: September 5th, @11:04AM
| Any numbers on... cancellations and dropped IPTV customers?
It seems that the word is out that you can dump the IPTV portion and keep internet.
I'm sure AT&T is not giving us these statistics. | |
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| Re: Any numbers on... said by etaadmin :cancellations and dropped IPTV customers? It seems that the word is out that you can dump the IPTV portion and keep internet. I'm sure AT&T is not giving us these statistics. Any reason they should?
Hob -- "A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds." - Ralph Waldo Emerson
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| Re: Any numbers on... said by hobgoblin :said by etaadmin :cancellations and dropped IPTV customers? It seems that the word is out that you can dump the IPTV portion and keep internet. I'm sure AT&T is not giving us these statistics. Any reason they should? Hob Yes they should. Transparency is good for business (stocks) Would you like to make a decision based on lies and half truths? | |
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join:2001-01-26 Valencia, CA | Re: Any numbers on... I'm sure that cancellations, etc. would be posted in their quarterly earnings. -- Canada = Hollywood North | |
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| "Yes they should. Transparency is good for business (stocks) Would you like to make a decision based on lies and half truths?"
Net adds is all the public needs to know.
Buying a dozen shares does not entitle you to have a daily update on churn rates.
Hob -- "A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds." - Ralph Waldo Emerson
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| Re: Any numbers on... said by hobgoblin :Net adds is all the public needs to know. Buying a dozen shares does not entitle you to have a daily update on churn rates. Clearly someone who doesn't invest or know anything about investing... Companies are required to give that type of information to investors so that they can make educated decisions regarding their buying and selling activities. | |
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| said by etaadmin :cancellations and dropped IPTV customers? It seems that the word is out that you can dump the IPTV portion and keep internet. I'm sure AT&T is not giving us these statistics. That kind of info is generally released with quarterly corporate financial info. It is almost always there somewhere in an appendix. But you have to dig for it. It won't be released in some splashy news release. But the financial analysts dig it out and rate the company accordingly. -- -- Internet News My BLOG My Web Page | |
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join:2001-01-03 Chicago, IL | U-verse sucks 6 Mbps is to slow, Fios is at least cranking up the speed.
The Feds need to mandate Fiber to every home in America by 2010.  | |
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  Rick Premium,MVM join:2001-02-06 Waterbury, CT clubs: 
| Oh My... You mean to tell me that the largest telco in the galaxy has FINALLY hit 100k customers with their latest, greatest..next generation service?
PLEASE!! Say it isn't SO!!
I can hear the horns a blaring and the balloons coming down now in their new CEO's office! Champagne for everyone!! Drinks are on him!!
Well, guess what Mr. New CEO? Those number just flat out SUCK.
For as LONG as you've been promoting this bloated piece of rotten out copper crap...that ain't NOTHING compared to where a TRUE next generation service would normally be.
Just LOOK at what VERIZON is doing. LOOK at the EXCITEMENT they are creating with their REAL next generation service.
I've said it before..and I'll say it again..until this company finally gets the message...NO one..NO ONE..wants a TV service delivered to them via your decades old..oxidized to all hell..rotting in the ground..twisted pairs that are dotting this landscape.
Your company ALREADY tried...and FAILED..several times before to venture into the TV business and that was even with traditional coaxial. But now..you think..someone wants THIS?
This 100k customers isn't even covering the number of telco landlines you're bleeding in 45 days.
WAKE UP AT&T. WAKE UP.
What in God's name is wrong with you?
Comcast and others..and the up and coming docsis 3.0..is going to KILL YOU.
FINISH YOU OFF.
Kaput.
OUT OF BUSINESS..if you don't very soon...as in RIGHT NOW..get with the real program.
Lord knows..I'm just trying to help you see the light.
The real light..that can only ride..
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  veloslave Geek For God Premium join:2003-07-11 Pleasant Hill, CA
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| Cherry picking is NOT a dead subject.
While agreeing completely that a company should act in a way that is profitable...
When they are given monopolistic agreements for cities/areas and portions of that area are largely ignored... people go without services that most take for granted these days... especially other countries that are less developed than our own. Yes capitalism works... supply and demand is the governing force... but I am beginning to believe that we are in a day and age where EVERYONE should have broadband... no questions asked. They did this with phone lines and IP's time has come.
To make things REALLY insulting and where ATT does go over the top is when these areas or cities that are without decide to do it themselves with a muni and then ATT has their well funded lawyers and smoke screen marketing attack the project until it is dead.
You couple all of that with the fact the company is infamous for really bad customer service and you have a big reason the USA is way behind in broadband deployment.
(Personally I am very tired of ATT and its the main reason I switched to Sonic... yes it still goes through ATT lines but they are not making money off of me and I ended up getting a company known for the best of customer service) -- Mom was right.... I NEED fiber! | |
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join:2005-10-09 Santa Rosa, CA | Employees What percent of that 100,000 are employee-subscribers? | |
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join:2006-05-14 San Antonio, TX | Re: Employees ATT has 300,000 employees worldwide. So i guess they will soon have to start hiring more people so they can add more u-verse subs.
Funny how u-verse supposedly limited availability can reach all of their employees worldwide.... | |
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join:2007-06-09 Goldsboro, NC | Go AT&T 100,000 in less than a year,,thats pretty dam awesome..this is just one of the many ways AT&T is owning the cable industry right now,,ha ha ha!! | |
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@rr.com | Re: Go AT&T as opposed to losing over a million customers a year to cable phoneee........ | |
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  KA3SGM - -... ...- - Premium join:2006-01-17 West Chester, PA clubs: | U-Verse Hits 100,000 Users Perhaps the reference applies to 100,000 people being hit by shrapnel from exploding V-RAD'S???  -- We're Gonna Need A Bigger Boat !! | |
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@clearwire-dns.net | I worked on this years ago ! This was a programming job I worked on a team with YEARS ago...what a POS it was - just a marketed WEB TV
Christ if I need to know the weather its everywhere
Not this "PORTAL" shit again...... | |
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