 | | Democracy Politicians are trained to hold mutually contradictory positions simultaneously. Otherwise they would never collect enough campaign contributions to run for re-election. It's one of the hallmarks of our democracy. | |
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 |  | | Re: Democracy As long as people defend "corporations' rights" akin to "people's rights", your first statement will always be a clause. The rest is just derp talk as it doesn't matter if you're new to the election.
Congress is most guilty of this for all the lockouts and government shutdowns accumulated over the past 4 years. They're not interested in people.
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People are guilty of this as well. Perfect example is gas prices.
High gas prices: Blame the president. Low gas prices: Praise the free market.
What an illogical country the US is. | |
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 |  |  | | Re: Democracy HaloFans you can also add "Trickle down economy it saves the poor"...Only a bunch of wack job right wingers that believe that. | |
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 |  |  | | said by HaloFans:As long as people defend "corporations' rights" akin to "people's rights", your first statement will always be a clause. The rest is just derp talk as it doesn't matter if you're new to the election.
Congress is most guilty of this for all the lockouts and government shutdowns accumulated over the past 4 years. They're not interested in people.
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People are guilty of this as well. Perfect example is gas prices.
High gas prices: Blame the president. Low gas prices: Praise the free market.
What an illogical country the US is. Actually it's: High gas prices: Blame the (Republican) President never the Democrat President.
Low gas prices: Praise the (Democrat) President | |
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 |  |  |  | | Re: Democracy and in this case- we still blame the Democrat President and he's not helping bring anything down. Come November and even October those prices will fall well below what they've been all year - or even the last 4 years. | |
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 |  |  |  CylonRedPremium,MVM join:2000-07-06 Bloom County | Your assertations did not work in the last 2 years as they DID blame the Democrat president. So much so they he released oil from reserves that never needed to be released to bring 'down' prices. -- Brian
"It drops into your stomach like a Abrams's tank.... driven by Rosanne Barr..." A. Bourdain | |
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 |  p51d007Naa-P51d Mustang join:2002-06-07 Springfield, MO | WRONG! I wish people would STOP calling the (according to the constitution) form of government in the USA a democracy. It's a constitutional republic ("and the REPUBLIC for which it stands"). We elect representatives (who are suppose) to do our bidding, but, unfortunately, they only answer to "we the people" every 2 years or 6 years, depending on the house of representatives or the senate. The 535 idiots in DC, in my opinion, should ALL be thrown out, but, since we "technically" have term limits, it is up to us to throw them out. Do a poll, and the majority of American's think ALL politicians are crooked, but their own. Those already IN congress, have it rigged against anyone trying to get in, but, if one retires, dies, or on the off chance isn't elected, here's pretty much how I see their first day "at school". They are pulled into their parties leaders office and given a speech outlining how things work, and it they vote the way WE tell you to, you can have a job for life, or retire as a zillionaire in a few years. Go against us, and we'll come up with a scandal to throw you out, or you'll find yourself swimming at the bottom of a pool. DC, sometimes I think a nuke going off would be a good start to taking this country back from crooked politicians, lobbyist, foreign influences. -- Coming to you from the home of Ozark Mountain Country. Where the air is clean, fishing is great, and we actually wear SHOES! | |
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 |  |  | | Re: WRONG! still a democracy even if you call it a republic since you know a democracy is where the people pick their leader  | |
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 |  |  |  ThespisI'm not an actor, but I play one on TV.Premium join:2004-08-03 Keller, TX | Re: WRONG! said by Eddy120876:still a democracy even if you call it a republic since you know a democracy is where the people pick their leader  Google "democracy" and get back to us. It's a democratic republic. Words have meaning... -- Fast. Cheap. Safe. Pick two... | |
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 |  |  |  |  | | Re: WRONG! So now words have meaning. Geez wiz Wally. Look do no matter what you call it still the samething. We pick our leards so thats a democracy that you call it a Republic big freaking deal you still vote for your leader. Now please go back to your political analyst job. Oh wait are you one? NO? then relax and stop watching cspan. | |
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 |  |  |  |  |  ThespisI'm not an actor, but I play one on TV.Premium join:2004-08-03 Keller, TX | Re: WRONG! said by Eddy120876:So now words have meaning. Geez wiz Wally. Look do no matter what you call it still the samething. We pick our leards so thats a democracy that you call it a Republic big freaking deal you still vote for your leader. Now please go back to your political analyst job. Oh wait are you one? NO? then relax and stop watching cspan. Yes Beave, words have meaning. Use the right words and you'll actually say what you mean instead of the stuff you posted right there... -- Fast. Cheap. Safe. Pick two... | |
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 | | Not the UN Our government has its share of problems but it's still miles better than the UN. We should be taking our money away from the UN not giving them more control. | |
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 |  LinklistPremium join:2002-03-03 Longport, NJ kudos:5 | Re: Not the UN said by Automate:Our government has its share of problems but it's still miles better than the UN. We should be taking our money away from the UN not giving them more control. A US bashing editorial doesn't change the truth that what the UN wants is 10X worse than the US trying to protect copyrighted content. | |
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 |  |  | | Re: Not the UN Actually what the U.S. government has done (and attempted to do) goes well beyond this little ITU hare-brained scheme, so you make no sense. | |
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 |  |  |  MashikiBalking The Enemy's Plans join:2002-02-04 Woodstock, ON kudos:1 | Re: Not the UN Handing power to the UN is far worse, or did you notice the other day they're looking to put Syria on the human rights council. Yep... | |
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 |  |  KrKHeavy Artillery For The Little GuyPremium join:2000-01-17 Tulsa, OK | No, it's the same. Governments interested in protecting money for big interests willing to regulate the internet and push their laws on everyone else.
The USA is one of the worst at sheer hypocrisy. -- "Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." -- Benito Mussolini
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 |  |  |  skeechanAi OtsukaholicPremium join:2012-01-26 AA169|170 kudos:2 | Re: Not the UN How about people just legally buy or rent the movies, books and music they want? Then you wouldn't need SOPA (not that it is needed anyway). | |
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 |  |  |  |  | | Re: Not the UN said by skeechan:How about people just legally buy or rent the movies, books and music they want? Simply human nature and convenience. Next you will be asking why people use illegal drugs too.
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 |  |  |  |  |  skeechanAi OtsukaholicPremium join:2012-01-26 AA169|170 kudos:2 | Re: Not the UN Ah, selfishness and the entitlement mentality. Perhaps if they weren't chemically altering themselves so much they would realize that everyone else doesn't exist for their convenience. | |
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Forced artificial scarcity just doesn't work. It an economic truth and its as real as gravity.
I find the morality of creating scarcity by law rather than by an open market to be questionable at best.
An artist has a scarce tool at his disposal, its called a live performance. The horror! | |
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You can't pirate the experience of being AT a live performance IN PERSON. | |
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 | | Whining about whining No Congress please ignore this article and go after the UNs insane ideas. You can work and clear the debris from your backyard at the same time. No need to wait.
Having sat thru hearing on this topic contradictions raised here were not lost on all present. | |
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 DavidNow accepting new patientsPremium,VIP join:2002-05-30 Granite City, IL kudos:78 | I say give it to the UN Give it to them. Let them deal with it. | |
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 |  veloslaveGeek For GodPremium join:2003-07-11 Pleasant Hill, CA | Re: I say give it to the UN What do you say with a gun to your head???
"Pull the trigger... let's see what happens"
Name one thing the UN has done right or done a good job with...?
No matter what our issues are here in the good old USA.... there is no way we could screw up the WWW as bad as the UN.
The UN ruins everything and needs to be done away with. -- Mom was right.... I NEED fiber! | |
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 | | Know who's on your side It's not the democrats, who will sell you down the river to please their masters in Hollywood and the music industry.
They supported SOPA and PIPA the most. Yes, a few Republicans supported it to the end but true conservatives realized this was more about freedom than anything else.
Know who's on your side, and it's clearly not the democrats. | |
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 |  | | Re: Know who's on your side IT IS NOT THE DEMOCRATS MORE THAN REPUBLICANS.
Both parties are after restricting freedoms and screwing over the average individual for the profit of multinational corporations governed by the rich that are above the law.
Quit blaming one or the other, kick BOTH the fuck out. Stop the wars. | |
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 |  |  | | Re: Know who's on your side Bullshit.
The democrats are and have always been control freaks.
The democrats OPPOSED the civil rights act of 1964 (filibustered by Sen Robert Byrd) and absolutely supported SOPA and PIPA.
Hollywood and the music industry are some of the democrat party's biggest donors! | |
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 pnh102Reptiles Are Cuddly And PrettyPremium join:2002-05-02 Mount Airy, MD | Hypocrisy? So What?
Yes, SOPA and PIPA suck and it was wrong to try to push them.
It is still wrong for the UN to be more involved the day to day running of the Internet.
Being on the wrong side of one issue doesn't make opposing the second position to be the wrong thing to do. -- Romney 2012 - Put an adult in charge. | |
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 ARGONAUTgot android?Premium join:2006-01-24 New Albany, IN kudos:1 | poppycock! The UN takeover of the Internet is 100% bullshite. The only people who believe that are n00bs.
We have had war criminals in the white house that are still walking free without any fear of arrest. The UN is a paper tiger.
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 pinjas join:2011-01-31 River Falls, WI | What counts Will any of this matter when we get long range directional and omni-directional mesh networking going? | |
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 Jack_in_VAPremium join:2007-11-26 Mathews, VA kudos:1 | No UN If it's something concerning the UN then we should run the other way.
In fact we should withdraw from the UN. Stop funding anything associated with it and kick them out of the country. | |
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 | | Could do worse than the US If the UN had control of the Internet, SOPA's equivalent would have simply happened. No public vote, no protest, just a new regulation handed down one day (after a significant cash payment to a UN bureaucrat, of course).
Yeah, the US has really gone downhill on civil rights. But most other countries had a really good head start down that hill. | |
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1 edit | Hmmm, UN's latest scheme for a global tax The only government entity/organization I trust less than the Federal Government is the US.
While the ITU has done fine with standards like telephone, this would just be a taxing scheme. For years the UN has been looking for a way to create a global tax, and this is just the latest scheme. Of course they won't admit it, but that is what it is.
Karl says we shouldn't listen to a country that came up with SOPA. I'm more concerned about an organization that puts Israel #1 in human rights violations, US #4, while Iran, China and Somalia tie 7th. The UN is nothing but a corrupt, US bashing, "gimmie your money", dictator club any more and they need to be defunded, not given even the slightest control over Internet governance.
If you want more international say, there should be a separate consortium, just like there is the G20 and members have to abide by certain rules and disputes are settled among members. | |
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 | | Unbiased Analysis "least to the six of us in this country not drunk on partisan patriotism"
Aren't we lucky to have a forum like broadband reports to give us a totally unbiased analysis. Maybe that's why I visit this site so often. | |
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 | | Spare us This is the dumbest article I have ever seen posted on this website.
US bashing and UN worshipping nonsense.
You should be ashamed | |
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| It's not just the government The human complacency factor plays a HUGE role in why things don't change. Give them no resistance or little and they will take as much as they think they want.
This video in sort of a way covers this topic well: »www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCRKvDyyHmI | |
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 | | Hypocrisy.. has become a trademark of the U.S. Government, period. | |
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 | | UN Oversight = Lame The UN? Your joking right?
No disrespect intended to our European friends, but freedom of speech is a joke overseas and so is freedom of the Internet.
Anybody who reads torrentfreak daily knows that websites are routinely censored in England, Scandinavia, France, etc. Here in the good ol U S of A. I can still access the pirate bay by typing in the proper URL. Geez. | |
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 |  sparks join:2001-07-08 Little Rock, AR | Re: UN Oversight = Lame WHAT???? you mean we will have to bribe more than just us politicians to stomp on everyone ????
ps just a FYI this is a republic NOT A DEMOCRACY show me one word about democracy with the founding fathers EXCEPT where they said IT ISNT | |
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 upbPremium join:2004-03-15 Carriere, MS kudos:1 | Did BBR actually PAY for this article? They got ripped off if they did. | |
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| UNneeded The United Nations is an empty suit. Worthless. In a way, that is good, because their dysfunctional nature will continue to confound them; even their sideline supporters.
Successful and truly effective control of the Internet by a cabal such as the UN is a pipe dream. Those foolish enough to try it will quickly come face to face with the facts.
Good for me, good for you. | |
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 |  | | Re: UNneeded i hope your right about the empty suit part.but these evil bastards will probably gain authority sooner or later.the republic is over.has been for a while. | |
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 |  |  GNHtolle causamPremium join:1999-12-20 Arlington, TX | Re: UNneeded Yeah, I hope I'm right, too. Looking pretty dire, lately. | |
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 | | piracy is not going anywhere its always been here and will always be here, in one form or another
you lock it down, we unlock it for all, and free  | |
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 mworks join:2006-06-13 Faison, NC | We need the constitution amended ! One thing that people really need to get behind is an amendment to the constitution placing US laws and rights above any international laws. The way it works right now , if a treaty were to be passed in the UN then it takes precedence over all US laws and has to go to the supreme court to be over turned when it shouldn't be allowed in the first place. The Bricker Amendment would fix it where the USA laws are 1st in any international laws and the supreme court wouldn't be involved. Unfortunately it has not passed in the several times it has been put up for a vote. Why anyone would not want the USA laws put before international laws is scary when they are supposed to be US politicians.
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bricker_Amendment | |
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