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guitarzan
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| said by GOLFnSUN  : I think BBR is lobbying for a UN takeover. Ayup you noticed that as well.? Maybe Pres.Bush will do the right thing and toss the UN bums out of the U.S.A once and for all.Time to petition the "right wing" Repubs. about Homeland Security and keep the US safe from the hell bent on destruction UN a solid boot in the ass.
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yes lets just give a bunch of known thieves control of the net...pirates the likes of the UN should controll it!
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| Re: stupid un Nonsense! Most of the countries represented at the UN are third world countries. While we were putting men on the moon, building the first computers, and designing the IEEE specs for the ethernet that was being put into practice, most of these UN represented people had never yet seen so much as a telephone. Much of the world remained with 18th and 19th century technology if they have any at all. They have no right to impose their backward standards on us. It is OUR technology. They may ask to use it only under our rules. They have no right to impose their rules on what is rightfully ours.  | |
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guitarzan
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| Re: stupid un said by Maarvin :Nonsense! Most of the countries represented at the UN are third world countries. Agreed,Most don't have a pot to piss in or a window to throw it out of.
said by Maarvin : While we were putting men on the moon, building the first computers, and designing the IEEE specs for the ethernet that was being put into practice, most of these UN represented people had never yet seen so much as a telephone. A telephone.? Most don't have electricity or any moden day appliances.Thatch huts in a jungle, May..may be equipped with tin cans and string for the tribe elders.said by Maarvin : Much of the world remained with 18th and 19th century technology if they have any at all. Exactly! Were it not for the US, they would still be in 18th-19th century. said by Maarvin :They have no right to impose their backward standards on us. It is OUR technology. They may ask to use it only under our rules. They have no right to impose their rules on what is rightfully ours. It's that pickle smoker coffi annon,who is to blame.F*ck him and the UN horse he rode in on.
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| said by Maarvin :Nonsense! Most of the countries represented at the UN are third world countries. While we were putting men on the moon, building the first computers, and designing the IEEE specs for the ethernet that was being put into practice, most of these UN represented people had never yet seen so much as a telephone. Now that is nonsense.
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| Re: stupid un Nonsense! Most of the countries represented at the UN are third world countries. While we were putting men on the moon, building the first computers, and designing the IEEE specs for the ethernet that was being put into practice, most of these UN represented people had never yet seen so much as a telephone.
That doesn't make them any less entitled to have a say in matters that concern them.
Poor people are allowed to participate in the democratic process in America. Poor countries are are given the same liberty on UN councils. I see no problem here. | |
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| said by ibpitcher2 :The UN can't do anything right, how do they expect to run the internet? Name one example of something the ITU "hasn't done right".
Name one example of ITU corruption.
Name one example of something the ITU has done over the objection of the U.S. delegation to the ITU. | |
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1 edit | I'm not a parrot for those who hate the UN but in this case the UN seems to want this far too much. | |
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Kompressor
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Kendall, FL | Don't understand? Don't they get it? The U.S. will not relinquish control of the Internet to them. | |
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| Oh sure Let THAT corrupt gang of thieves--Oil For Food Scandal, anyone?--run the show. Whose brilliant idea was this?
ICANN can, and has, done just fine up to now, thank you.
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ß | Re: Oh sure FYI: they are one in the same. The security council has the LARGEST budget in the UN...if they can't get it right with the most money, how can one expect a small sub organization do it. | |
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| said by Shamayim :Let THAT corrupt gang of thieves--Oil For Food Scandal, anyone?--run the show. Whose brilliant idea was this? ICANN can, and has, done just fine up to now, thank you. Hey don't forget we have the Oil for War scandal, we just don't want to talk about it, who know who may be listening. | |
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1 edit | OH Goodie! another UN discussion on BBR How may times are we going to hash out this old one.
Let's get it all over with now, and lock the thread. It's just too nice of a weekend outside here on the East coast to go on with this crap.
Someone will say the "Rednecks" in Washington won't do it because they're to US-centro. Another person will spend about 10,000 keystrokes arguing that the ITU is totally separate from the security counsel, and no matter how many times the opponents to this idea (turning the internet over to ITU) say they understand that, Mr. "ITU is not the SC" will hammer away at the same point until the post count tops 100.
Then, when it all FINALLY comes to a crescendo of bullshit, the discussion will be nothing but a "I love Bush VS, Bush is the Antichrist" festival of mudslinging.
Let's face it, the US is not turning anything over to the UN any time in the near future, so why argue about it.
I say enjoy the weekend, go grab a beer, sit in the sun, and soak up the warm weather. Winter is only a few months away.
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ß | Re: OH Goodie! another UN discussion on BBR FYI ICANN is in the US and runs it now...the US/ICANN would be turning things over the UN/ITU.
I mean if you are going to flip out and rant on, at least rant about the right stuff.
Maybe too many beers have been had already. | |
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Philly burbs | Re: OH Goodie! another UN discussion on BBR No beers, fumes from the bathroom cleaner...
lol
I'll go back and edit, but I think you get the general point... | |
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ß | Re: OH Goodie! another UN discussion on BBR I gotcha bro...notice I spke like Yoda so who am I to say anything...
"Maybe too many beers have been had already?" like wtf is that... | |
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| Stop making sense, that's too logical. We can't have a six page discussion on this topic without "the UN sucks" or "Bush is a crook" being slung every three seconds.
It's all a load of hooey anyways. I just love hearing "The U.N. can't do anything right!" or "over my dead body" comments. Absolutely hilarious. Great regurgitation of what's already been spoon fed via talk shows...can't someone have an original thought on this subject? | |
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| Re: OH Goodie! another UN discussion on BBR said by garagerock :Stop making sense, that's too logical. We can't have a six page discussion on this topic without "the UN sucks" or "Bush is a crook" being slung every three seconds. And either of those are wrong how ?
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| Re: OH Goodie! another UN discussion on BBR said by BosstonesOwn :said by garagerock :Stop making sense, that's too logical. We can't have a six page discussion on this topic without "the UN sucks" or "Bush is a crook" being slung every three seconds. And either of those are wrong how ? I'll tell you how: why not just argue that the grass is green and the sky is blue? these are both indisputable facts, but do they get to the heart of the issue at all? what is the objection to the UN taking control...is it steeped in the technical, or the national? is it fear of a foreign body in control or something else? posting "the UN sucks" really doesn't answer those questions.
not that I'm a W fan by any stretch of the imagination, but the other sides bleating about issues nonrelated to this topic is just as facetious. | |
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| Re: OH Goodie! another UN discussion on BBR I don't disagree.
However I fell ICANN has not done anything wrong to justify the swap of control. Had they pulled a verisign and I would say it needs to be changed.
but until then technically they should not be disrupting the core dns servers and said equipments operation, even if they wanted to shift control.
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guitarzan
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Because.It is run by a liberal/communist who used to hold a high position in the Chinese government.
It's time to get in touch with our state representative's and the Whitehouse itself to express our beliefs as to why the UN terrorists should NOT have any control of the internet.And to please bomb the UN out of existence if they keep pushing the issue for control of it.I'm pretty sure a 4 star general with the right security clearances and proper back channels.Can launch a missile with the push of a button some where to get the UN to STFU.
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New York, NY | UN control? Hahahaha Boy, I wonder how they'd screw up the Internet...they screw everything else up. What could they do...hmm | |
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The best thing that could happen to the Useless Nations is that it be disbanded. Never have so many impotent politicians been gathered in one place to waste time and money... | |
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|  Re: The Useless Nations, aka UN is impotent...
The sanest statement from you yet.
I mean what more can you say, inefficiency, blindness to mans inhumanity to man, ignorance of the basic principals of management and an inability to reach consensus when real disaster strikes nations because of national rivalries and jealousies; but you knew that any way......
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| Big mean kid After reading this and earlier threads about this topic it is no wonder that so many people in the world dislike or even hate the US. Corruption and nepotism are more abundant in the Republican party than in the UN. The US is often like the big mean kid in the schoolyard that beats up other kids if they don't play by his rules. You know what? There are 193 kids in that school. One day all those kids will decide that they don't want to play any more. | |
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| Yea... We have the nukes...we have the net...simple eh?...and if the other u.n countries don't like it...well...they are added to our hit-list | |
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| Re: Yea... said by BPLSUCKS :
We have the nukes...we have the net...simple eh?...and if the other u.n countries don't like it...well...they are added to our hit-list
Don't forget we also have the RIAA who is so helping us with our internet2 problems... | |
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| Funny Funny how we don't want to turn the internet over to the UN because they are corrupt, scandal-ridden thieves who are unable to control their budget or do anything right.
We should find other excuses for not turning the internet over to the UN. These don't really work.  | |
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| Moral of the story said by TheRestOfTheWorld :
After reading this and earlier threads about this topic it is no wonder that so many people in the world dislike or even hate the US.
Everyone hates us till they want something and then they still hate us. They smile in our face when they want something and stab us in the back after they get it.
said by TheRestOfTheWorld :
Corruption and nepotism are more abundant in the Republican party than in the UN.
I like to know where you got your info from. Notices how you leave {democrat) out of the equation.
said by TheRestOfTheWorld :
The US is often like the big mean kid in the schoolyard that beats up other kids if they don't play by his rules.
Are you talking about our rules or doing the right thing?
said by TheRestOfTheWorld :
You know what? There are 193 kids in that school. One day all those kids will decide that they don't want to play any more.
They don't have to play, we will still continue to do what is right. It will show what the U.N truly stands for.
The moral of the story is, nothing you said had to do with the subject at hand. As for myself, I don't want the U.N taking my rights away. If you don't think that will happen, take a look at the countries that control what people say, read and write. | |
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| Re: Moral of the story said by viperpa33s :
said by TheRestOfTheWorld :
After reading this and earlier threads about this topic it is no wonder that so many people in the world dislike or even hate the US.
Everyone hates us till they want something and then they still hate us. They smile in our face when they want something and stab us in the back after they get it.
BING! BING! BING! We have a winner.
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Brighton, MI | Who is funding the UN? Follow the $$$$ Heck...let's start another war...stamp out global-marxism. The only way to defeat dialectic materialism is to meet it head on...
Of course, we could alwayrs roll over and play dead...and give 'em what they want... | |
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|  Eviction notice....
Can't we get some NY landlord to EVICT the the UN, PLEASE! That land has got to worth MILLIONS if RE-DEVELOPED into something USEFUL.
The UN is nothing but a den of spies anyway, theres got to be something in the DMCA and Patriot Act or Copyright law that would allow them to all be evicted.
I am so sick and tired of the UN and this debate.
The internet is the invention of the DOD/APRA, its OURS! OURS! OURS!
Don't like the rules, build you own! You whined over GPS and WASTED how many BILLIONS of EUROS to DUPLICATE another system? Go right ahead and see how many takers you have for your net.
Some places should be damn thankful I don't decide who gets connections! Theres are whole slew of countries that would get domains yanked, connections pulled permanently. Theres a reason my .htaccess file is 56K!
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WirelessMajr
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| I favor... Each nation controling their own domain. The internet runs fairly well for the most part.. so why fix what is broken?
That said, to the poster who stated that whe all 193 kids leave the school, we're still do what is right, well, we the US never do what is right. We do what suits our purposes, just like every other government out there. | |
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dauthiatull
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Toronto, ON | The truth is... no government controls the internet.
It is controlled by big business, hackers, and porn.
Governments don,t control it they just make futile attempts to regulate it. | |
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| Re: The truth is... Well First of all, im not American.
,But i support that the 'control' of the main root-servers or whathaveyou, should remain with the U.S.
why? you ask.
simple, they invented it! its a fact, kudos to them.
its their ingenuity, their brainyness, their intelligence, i dont think ANY other country would 'give-up' the control, if they invented this technology! no way, it would react the exact same way the U.S. has.
and who is the U.N anyway? just a bunch of countries that have their own interest first, ahead of anything else.
the countries in the U.N. are just intimidated with the words biggest superpower becomming more powerfull than ever. but it is inevitable. so what. the U.S. is not Iraq, or Iran that we, the rest of the world have to worry.
but i dont think it is necessarily safe in the hands of the U.S. namely, the FBI and the CIA.
they are without a doubt, the biggest and most powerful snoops in the world, its their job.
what do people with power want most?
more power!
nobody with power will voluntarily relinquish that power.
BUT.....the thing is, so they have control, so what???
what will they do.....shut down the internet? never gonna happen. and its not like it cant be built back up anyway.
this is like Atlas carrying the Globe, which is getting bigger and bigger.
in fact, if anything goes wrong with those root-servers, they will be held solely responsible and liable.
anyway, i predict, in the future, im thinking 10 years or so it WILL be shifted to the U.N. or something like it.
it dosent matter jack shit to me anyway where it is.
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