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11:38AM Thursday Jul 16 2009 by Karl Bode
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In Canada, both Cogeco and Rogers have recently unveiled new 50Mbps DOCSIS 3.0 services, though limited competition means the services come with high prices, low caps, and slow upstream speeds. In the UK, cable operator Virgin Media is also struggling with providing upstream speeds, but is offering uncapped bundled 50Mbps service at US$46.03. That's well below the standard prices for 50Mbps DOCSIS 3.0 services in the States, the lowest of which is provided by Comcast at around $99 a month. In most markets, 50Mbps cable services in the States are being priced around $130 a month and up. Virgin says they're also testing 200Mbps connectivity in limited markets.

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cpsycho

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Must be nice. Im getting tired of living in our third world country.

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Unlimited with Traffic Management??

They don't cap like terrible companies like comcast, rogers, bell, etc, but they have something call traffic management from where they will cut your speed basically to 75% if you reach a certain download limit for the day.

Traffic Management: »allyours.virginmedia.com/html/in···fic.html

It seems at if you go over a certain set download limit they will reduce your speed to 75% or 50% of what your supposed to get.
According to that chart they do not have any limit or reduction set for this new 50Mbps plan.

Caps are BS, but reducing a 20Mbps connection to 15Mbps after downloading 7GB during the day or 3.5GB in the evening is not so bad. You still get unlimited downloads.

A 1.5Mbps upload for a 50Mbps down does not make sense, it should be much faster.
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Re: Unlimited with Traffic Management??

50 - 75% of what they get is still way better than what we're getting in Canada...FFS!!!
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Re: Unlimited with Traffic Management??

we come in at less than 20%

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I know, I am not that opposed to traffic control like this as long as you still have unlimited and they do not serverly cripple your connection.

It says they only use the traffic monitoring on the top 5% of their users each day.
50% to 75% of a 20 Mbps or 50Mbps connection for under $50 a month is just fine by me. They have no restriction at night time.

Canada broadband sucks and the US is starting to go downhill.
Back to the AOL pay by the minutes days is where we are headed.
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Re: Unlimited with Traffic Management??

what pisses me off is that Canadians don't really seem to give a flying fuck about this and are content to get scammed.
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Such traffic management only allows an ISP to avoid upgrading their network infrastructure for one cycle. Then they will be stuck on a "behind the curve" upgrade schedule and traffic control and throttling will become a permanent feature, regardless of how much technology advances.

Setting aside how throttling actually violates the concept of net neutrality, other countries like Japan and South Korea have been providing unhindered symmetrical 100mbit connections for $50 or less/month for years. I think Virgin can do the same 5 years later.

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said by r81984 See Profile :

They don't cap like terrible companies like comcast, rogers, bell, etc, but they have something call traffic management from where they will cut your speed basically to 75% if you reach a certain download limit for the day.

Traffic Management: »allyours.virginmedia.com/html/in···fic.html

It seems at if you go over a certain set download limit they will reduce your speed to 75% or 50% of what your supposed to get.
According to that chart they do not have any limit or reduction set for this new 50Mbps plan.

Caps are BS, but reducing a 20Mbps connection to 15Mbps after downloading 7GB during the day or 3.5GB in the evening is not so bad. You still get unlimited downloads.

A 1.5Mbps upload for a 50Mbps down does not make sense, it should be much faster.
No management or caps on the 50Mbit at the moment. The upstream is way slow though.

tad2020

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US$46.03 for 50Mbps 0_o

$46/m is what I pay for my mediocre 5Mbps D':
Davesnothere

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MATH FLAW, I think

quote:
»UK: 50Mbps For $46

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If you check their tables at the below link to the Virgin Media UK site, it says 35 POUNDS STERLING (PLUS 11 MORE Pounds for a phone line from them)

Or, 50 Pounds for that level of service, a la carte.

»allyours.virginmedia.com/html/br···are.html

And here is a link to a popular currency conversion site :

»www.xe.com/

From there, it seems that the 46 Pounds in the first example would be $75.61 USD, or $84.47 CAD, currently.

(Unless they have another promo that I missed, and which is not linked from the referring news article, here).

Still, I'm impressed both by their Traffic politics AND their Explanations in general.

Lazlow

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Re: MATH FLAW, I think

If you read the linked article:

"Starting Sept. 1, Virgin will reduce the cost of its 50-Mbit/s (downstream) service to £28 (US$46.03) per month, when bundled with a phone line, or £38 per month ($62.48) when purchased as a standalone service. Currently, the "naked" version of the service costs £50 ($82.21) per month, and the bundled offering is £35 ($57.54). "
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The Real Math

said by Lazlow See Profile :

If you read the linked article:

"Starting Sept. 1, (2009)...."
I see it now.

»www.lightreading.com/document.as···ite=cdn&

OK, I've reviewed the story, and although the cost is lower than I first suggested, the headline Still is based upon Incomplete Math and so is only partially correct (as was I by overlooking it the first time).

The $46 quoted is in USA funds (not Canadian), but more importantly, even $46 USD does not take into account the further cost of the phone line (at 11 Pounds) which one ALSO must lease to get their rate of 28 Pounds for the Internet.

So the cost is really 28 + 11 = 39 Pounds UK (also offered at 38 Pounds if you only want their Internet alone), so as they say in UK "In for a Penny, In for a Pound !").

Anyway, 39 Pounds converted would be about $63.50 USD or $71 CAD, at today's rates.

Still a tad more than $46.


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Now with 10Mb upload!

You will also notice that they have just started trialling 10Mb upstream speed for the same 50Mb connection in 2 of their franchises... makes it more appealing now doesnt it.
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Next Step!

USA broadband prices should start to fall next... there's no reason why they shouldn't.. if the UK providers can begin lowering prices later this year, so can the big 3 in the USA, Verizon, Comcast and AT&T! This proves that we're getting ripped off.. sure, if it were countries that never had a decent copper infrastructure to begin with, fine.. comparison doesn't apply.. but UK? Well, it's time to demand lower prices from our USA providers of broadband!
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