  BF69Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | Putting An End To The Biggest Lie On The Internet So let me see if I get this straight. According to this group if you join a site and see "I have read and agree to the terms of service" and you don't read them and click yes anyways then it's that's companies fault and you are somehow a victim? | |
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 | | | Re: Putting An End To The Biggest Lie On The Internet Too many times the TOS is in small print and quite long. Some don't have the patience to read all that, especially if it's full of legalese.
If this group is about putting the TOS in plain English that might be good. I don't think a lot of people can read the TOS, and the others are in too much of a hurry. I'm a speed reader and do read TOS. There are some groups I've not signed up for.
It's like the disclaimers on ads on TV. The ad producer gets someone who can read fast to read the disclaimer. The ad has satisfied legal terms - despite the fact that the speed of the reading does impair understanding the disclaimer. | |
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| | | Those poor companies, people calling them out for using huge TOS they make impossible to read for services you in many instances (broadband) have no choice but to use. I'm so glad you're on the moral side of the fence on this issue protecting those big, nice corporations from the mean little people trying to make a difference.
This site's readership is so bizarre. | |
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| KearnstdElf WizardPremium
join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ | Well I do think companies should make more initiative to get rid of the lawyer speak in TOS and EULAs, When I have asked people why they do not read them they usually state its because its packed with lawyer speak aka "Legalese" rather than just a blunt list of rules and what they can do and what you can do.
if the people who write a TOS/EULA wrote the rules for a public pool there would be no room for the pool because they would need so many signs rather than a simple one with the rules.
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|  RARPSL
join:1999-12-08
Suffern, NY | said by BF69:So let me see if I get this straight. According to this group if you join a site and see "I have read and agree to the terms of service" and you don't read them and click yes anyways then it's that's companies fault and you are somehow a victim?
No. They are saying that many of the terms in the ToS are unreadable, Too Large, or Unfair to the user. This is, so they claim, the fault of the company (or their legal department) for using their ability to force unfair conditions on the user as a condition of providing them service.
They provide as an example giving up all rights to your pictures just by uploading them. This is over broad. The usual terms for this type of service is that all you are asked to do is give a limited license to the service so they can display the pictures and copy them from one of their servers to another (as needed to be able to display them). | |
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 skeechanAi OtsukaholicPremium
join:2012-01-26
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kudos:2 | $99 console yesbut...android games blow goat. I'll stick with my 360. | |
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