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join:2000-04-10
Richland, WA
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March 17th, @02:20PM
| Wow. Sat stuff is cool. I'd always wondered exactly where all these sats are, and then I found a cool NASA java app that will show you exactly where most of the sats are (in scale!) in real time! Check this out:
»science.nasa.gov/realtime/jtrack···k3D.html
What I do is make the window a little bigger (fullscreen), zoom out a little, right click and center over North America. The big "ring" of sats all around the earth are all the geostationary sats. The click Sattelle>Select and pick from one of the DirecTV birds from the list (or any other sat that seems interesting). Then select Options>UpdateRate>1/4second and then Options>timing>x100 and be amazed  | |
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 | antonio010
join:2002-11-24 | Re: Wow. Pretty cool link. I played around on there viewing the different satellites. I truly had no idea that there were so many satellites in orbit! Honestly amazing! | |
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| Bane75
join:2002-09-20
Poway, CA | Does it scare anyone else that there are satellites up there called Skynet?? | |
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join:2007-11-09 | Re: Wow. haha, I said the same thing when looking at this with a co-worker. The robot apocalypse is at hand! | |
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Mega DETH
It's All About The Ping
join:2003-08-20
Watertown, WI | 70 channels? 70 current channels my ass, sure including PPV pft, about 5 watchable channels now and no locals in HD.
Biggest mistake I made in TV was choosing Dish.......
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YO
@anonymouse.org | Re: 70 channels? Dude, you have to be politically correct on this forum.Can't bash other providers,members start to cry.Everything has to be touchy-feely  | |
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madisonjar
join:2005-08-26
| Updates First off megadeath, you dont have "5" watchable HD stations, Dish network does have a good amount of HD, but I see you are here to just bash a company because its the internet and you can hide behind that. If you are that unhappy about your service please choose another
Now about this article, It needs to be updated as SES president has put out a statement saying they are cofident that they can get the satellite into its orbit. It was off yes, but not by a unmountable amount of space
go here:
»www.satelliteguys.us/dish-networ···nts.html
First you will see Dish network filing a form-8k with the SEC, then read through the thread a bit and you will see the SES presidents comment, so everything looks to be good for now (just delayed, and how long who knows!). | |
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trebzon
join:2001-09-03
Grandville, MI | Re: Updates So my question is who pays? Seems silly but I am curious. Is the Russian launch group and or there insurance company liable? | |
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madisonjar
join:2005-08-26
| Re: Updates you would have to have some serious inside contacts and I dont have that. but from everything I am reading, with the satellite in "space" I dont think launch insurance would be good for this, I woudl think they need to work out a deal with the insurance company for lost life and usage (moving the satellite to its orbit will use a good chunk of its fuel and decrease the lifespan. | |
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Danger Pilot
join:2000-03-14
Fairburn, GA
| More than likely whatever insurance company SES Americom has insured AMC-14 with. It wasn't released into the correct transfer orbit, but by using a sizable amount of the satellites own fuel it may reach it's intended orbit. So it may not be a full payout, if they can manage that. If not they'll probably do a deorbit burn on it and collect the full insurance value.
Dish Net has only leased AMC-14's transponder capacity. So while this will delay their plans, they're not on the hook for the botched launch or satellite.
Here's a story about it over at Spaceflight Now.
»www.spaceflightnow.com/proton/amc14/ | |
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Mega DETH
It's All About The Ping
join:2003-08-20
Watertown, WI
 ·AT&T Midwest
| I own the service I can say what is true.
Do you have DISH? If not go away.
If so list all the great HD channels you pay $20 a month for.
I admitted it was my mistake, so don't give your so high on the horse speech.
I am stuck for another 12 months with them, yes my fault and I am admitting it but that doesn't change the truth.
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madisonjar
join:2005-08-26
| Re: Updates said by Mega DETH  :I own the service I can say what is true. Do you have DISH? If not go away. If so list all the great HD channels you pay $20 a month for. I admitted it was my mistake, so don't give your so high on the horse speech. I am stuck for another 12 months with them, yes my fault and I am admitting it but that doesn't change the truth. Yes I do have dish, with a dish 722, 625, and 2 211's...SO I know what is true and what you said is not, if me correcting some bashing is me on a high horse then so be it....oh and I have 43 HD channels with the top 250 and dish hd ultimate, here is the list so everyone can see for themselves
»www.dishnetwork.com/content/our_···x2.shtml
seems like you are the one who needs to go away. | |
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cableties
Premium
join:2005-01-27
Levittown, PA | Another one... ..for Anti-satellite weapon practice !!! | |
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| DemonicLlama
join:2007-11-19
Potomac, MD | Re: Another one... I hope they put a lazer on the directv new satillite to blow away the competition. Maybe thats their reason for the delayed launch. =D | |
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jcummings
join:2000-05-23
Lewiston, ID | DISH Screwd The Pooch Well Dish Network, you keep slipping on your promises to expand your HD programming. With the failure of the AMC-14 bird on Friday, you just sealed my decision to go over to DirectTV. | |
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madisonjar
join:2005-08-26
| Re: DISH Screwd The Pooch you need to read my last reply, the satellite has not failed, in fact it is being put in its proper orbit, I am not saying not to go to Directv, but you have to remember first off this wasnt Dish's satellite just one they were renting, and as far as SES and Dish is concerned its still alive and well...just alot of misinformation out there. | |
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| | DMS1
join:2005-04-06
Carrollton, TX
| Re: DISH Screwd The Pooch said by madisonjar :you need to read my last reply, the satellite has not failed, in fact it is being put in its proper orbit, I am not saying not to go to Directv, but you have to remember first off this wasnt Dish's satellite just one they were renting, and as far as SES and Dish is concerned its still alive and well...just alot of misinformation out there. What they have said is that they are looking to put the satellite into its correct orbit. However this will most likely use a significant amount of the on-board fuel which will reduce the usable life of the satellite - maybe by too much to be of use. Another consideration is one of insurance. The satellite owner may decide it is better to just "crash" the satellite and take the money.
The good news for Dish is that they haven't lost any real money even if the satellite is lost totally since they were going to lease it, and although they had spent money up-front to modify it that portion was insured too. | |
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| dude34221
join:2002-06-13
Galena, OH | just like directv's 100hd channels? | |
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neufuse
join:2006-12-06
Indiana, PA | Comcast... can't wait for comcast to start running tv commercials mocking this saying "Our Fiber network doesn't use satalites... therefore you dont have to worry about your rocket buring... *fake laugh* yeah we're better" | |
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| battleop
join:2005-09-28
00000 | Re: Comcast... That would be just about right for Comcast. More lies. D* Tv should run commercials where they reveal the source of Comcast's programming. A row of dishes behind their offices. | |
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join:2004-08-05
Home
| Re: Comcast... said by battleop :D* Tv should run commercials where they reveal the source of Comcast's programming. A row of dishes behind their offices. I don't get your point. That is the source of EVERYONE's programming. I don't think the public or anyone else is in denial about that.
It's not like everyone has a direct fiber or coax link directly to HBO and other pay channels.
The only programming not received over satellite by providers are local stations.
People knew pay channels came over satellite years ago, when people started installing those big dishes at home to receive pay cable channels for free. Until the sat companies got on the ball and encrypted it and charged fees. | |
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join:2005-09-28
00000 | Re: Comcast... ugh. Let me do this for you since you didn't pick up on it.
#service humor start
"D* Tv should run commercials where they reveal the source of Comcast's programming. A row of dishes behind their offices."
#service humor stop | |
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join:2004-08-05
Home
| Re: Comcast... said by battleop :ugh. Let me do this for you since you didn't pick up on it. #service humor start "D* Tv should run commercials where they reveal the source of Comcast's programming. A row of dishes behind their offices." #service humor stop UGH. You are SO funny! | |
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jester121
join:2003-08-09
Lake Zurich, IL | Wow... Now THAT is an expensive truck roll. | |
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HDTITSVEE
@rr.com
| get what ya pay for why didnt they just shoot it on a chinese manufactured satellite replica, it would've been even cheaper ! i can guide them here on Canal Street NYC we go thru a secret door behind the wall of fake prada bags and get yourselves a nice satellite.
bam!
they'll even throw in an extra 100 HD channels (not really HD but you can tell your friends they are) | |
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Gilitar
join:2000-11-20
Mobile, AL | Disaster This is a disaster for Dish Network. They are already wayyy behind Directv and they don't need this. | |
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KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
Premium
join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK
 ·Cox HSI
·AT&T Southwest
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March 18th, @05:33AM
| Basically, Epic Fail? This is basically a launch failure, and normally the satellite is useless and will probably fall from orbit in a few years.... however there have been reports this satellite is CLOSE to it's intended orbit, and perhaps, if they burn up some of the manuevering fuel, they may be able to get this satellite to it's correct position, and thereby recover it's usefulness. Otherwise, it's a big loss to Dish Network and to the subscribers, who end up having to pay the price for failures of this nature.
This is always a risk in any satellite launch. It's unfortunate. | |
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rhexis
join:2002-05-18
Gilbertsville, PA | wow dish network is still in business? i thought they went t*ts up a couple of years ago. | |
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| Gilitar
join:2000-11-20
Mobile, AL | Re: wow What? Are you serious? A couple of years ago they were eating Directv's lunch. | |
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arundc
join:2004-08-11
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March 18th, @10:18AM
| Re: wow ...and came close to buying DirecTV too. This is a minor setback that is going to be fixed. It could have happened to anyone. Been with Dish Network since 2000 and am very happy with their service and HD 3 tuner (beat that DirecTV) receivers. | |
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roachxp
join:2004-05-26
Milford, MA | Dish Sat Dish was only leasing 4 transponder on this sat, they have there own sat going up in May so no big loss they will add more HD, wait a week right around MLB start they should have some new ones. | |
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KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
Premium
join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK | Re: Dish Sat ... Hopefully it won't blow up. :/ | |
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Troubled Satellite Launch Impacts Dish Network HD Plans