Track Your Remaining HughesNet Cap SpaceUser script calculates FAP impact... ( old news - 06:36PM Monday Nov 05 2007) tags: satellite · business · bandwidth · HughesNet Satellite BroadbandTipped by astragalus  Caps and traffic throttling are a major reason why the reviews for satellite broadband provider HughesNet are so painfully mediocre. HughesNet customers who exceed the company's daily, rolling bandwidth caps (which range from 200MB to 1250MB depending on tier) find their connections throttled for 24 hours to speeds easily bested by rural American dial-up -- circa 1995 (users say around 7-14kbps). Though HughesNet offers a FAP ("fair access policy") FAQ, users are still frequently confused. In particular, it's hard for users to determine just how close they are to their cap. To that end, one forum user has created a handy tool (requires Firefox and the Greasemonkey plugin) that will calculate how much download capacity is left -- directly on the HughesNet usage page. We've had a FAP Q&A with the company lined up for some time, though we're still waiting for a response to our questions, which the company would only accept via e-mail. Among other questions, we asked whether users will see some FAP relief from the company's new satellite, why they don't offer an unlimited, more expensive tier, and whether 7-14kbps throttling isn't just a tad -- severe -- as we enter the era of Joost and other bandwidth intensive video applications. Update:The creator of hnFAPMon writes in to say: I'm dissapointed that you don't mention hnFAPMon as another FAP monitoring tool. While the tool you mention looks nice, it has one major limitation; it's 2 hours behind your current usage while hnFAPMon is current to the second.
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| Simply Pathetic That consumers even have to go with a sat provider is bad enough, but adding insult to injury that they can't access broadband in any other matter and are then subject to ridiculously low caps. This is just another glaring reminder that the U.S. is a first world country with third world broadband choices. The only positive I see in this matter is at least HughesNet isn't pretending there aren't any caps in place like certain other providers have and then pleading stupidity when they get caught by their own subscriber base (cough Comcrap cough.) | |
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jchambers28
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| Re: Simply Pathetic said by jchambers28 :why don't offer an unlimited services Maybe because satellite broadband has capacity limitations. It isn't a just a question of money. It is how much bandwidth you can put on a satellite. | |
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| I pay $60 and have to tip-toe around any type of true broadband for fear of the dreaded FAP.
They know they are the ONLY choice for much of rural America and therefore they can stick it to us.
If DSL or anything else ever becomes available I will switch instantly. | |
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| I am soooo with U there! I too have Hugesnet and tech is non-existant; if your speeds are down they will test and tell U that they are extremely good! Also, I admin a website and I get kicked off constantly because of their routers and such. And good luck getting any tech at ALL unless U speak Indian! "Aund how er chu beink to-day?" | |
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clubs: | I agree holy crap that is HORRIBLE!!!!
I'd feel so bad for someone who eats up all there MB's on a freah install of Microsoft Windows XP! could easily eat all that up on updates poor people. | |
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| Do you have any idea how much it costs, and how much time is required, to design, engineer, manufacture, test, tweak design, re-manufacture, retest, build multiple systems, launch, and manage a satellite? Then throw in multiple ground-stations and O&M for future years.
I know your post was more directed at slamming the US because you feel that we are so bad off, so I guess this was more of a rhetorical question. Anyway, if you think that our "first world country" has such "third world broadband choices", then I invite you to look around at other countries, weigh your benefits and costs of living, and then let us know which country is so much better. Serious question as I've been a lot of places and I'd like to read your frame of reference. | |
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| Re: Simply Pathetic said by openbox9 :if you think that our "first world country" has such "third world broadband choices", then I invite you to look around at other countries, weigh your benefits and costs of living, and then let us know which country is so much better. Serious question as I've been a lot of places and I'd like to read your frame of reference. It wasn't directed at me, but I'll answer the question anyway - Since the U.S. is the only country on the planet that lets people in -or for that matter accepts any and all human debris that washes up on its shores or crawls under a fence- regardless of age, education, income and/or ability to earn one, I am not able to seriously discuss with you my choice of which country I would dump the U.S. for. Just know that if it were an option, I would without a second thought.
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| Re: Simply Pathetic said by major marco :It wasn't directed at me, but I'll answer the question anyway - Since the U.S. is the only country on the planet that lets people in -or for that matter accepts any and all human debris that washes up on its shores or crawls under a fence- regardless of age, education, income and/or ability to earn one, I am not able to seriously discuss with you my choice of which country I would dump the U.S. for. Just know that if it were an option, I would without a second thought. I was attempting to ask a serious question, but anyway...are you seriously considering yourself "human debris"? I truly feel sorry for you if you feel that living in the US is so challenging. It's really not that hard to find another country to live in, you might want to give it a shot. | |
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| said by major marco :I am not able to seriously discuss with you my choice of which country I would dump the U.S. for. Just know that if it were an option, I would without a second thought.
There are many choices out there where you can go. Feel free to leave anytime if you feel it's so bad here. Just don't let the door hit you on your way out! | |
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| said by openbox9 :Do you have any idea how much it costs, and how much time is required, to design, engineer, manufacture, test, tweak design, re-manufacture, retest, build multiple systems, launch, and manage a satellite? Then throw in multiple ground-stations and O&M for future years. Isn't that exactly what we pay for in the form of taxes on broadband? So that folks in rural areas can have access? What is happening with the monies providers are collecting at the behest of the feds to subsidize rural areas with broadband?
said by openbox9 :I know your post was more directed at slamming the US because you feel that we are so bad off, so I guess this was more of a rhetorical question. Anyway, if you think that our "first world country" has such "third world broadband choices", then I invite you to look around at other countries, weigh your benefits and costs of living, and then let us know which country is so much better. Serious question as I've been a lot of places and I'd like to read your frame of reference. I have "looked around" and weighed options accordingly and I stand by my original statement. The U.S. is a first world country with 3rd world broadband choices. We pay the highest prices in the world for the lowest k/bps. Where I choose to live vs not is not germane to this discussion. | |
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| Re: Simply Pathetic said by SilverSurfer :Isn't that exactly what we pay for in the form of taxes on broadband? So that folks in rural areas can have access? What is happening with the monies providers are collecting at the behest of the feds to subsidize rural areas with broadband? Taxes? What tax are you referring to? What money is being collected to subsidize rural deployments of Internet access?said by SilverSurfer :I have "looked around" and weighed options accordingly and I stand by my original statement. The U.S. is a first world country with 3rd world broadband choices. We pay the highest prices in the world for the lowest k/bps. Where I choose to live vs not is not germane to this discussion. So you don't have an example of a better place to live than the US? Kind of challenging to verify your first world country, third world broadband choices claim without an understanding of what a first world country with first world broadband choices is. | |
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| said by SilverSurfer :That consumers even have to go with a sat provider is bad enough, but adding insult to injury that they can't access broadband in any other matter and are then subject to ridiculously low caps. This is just another glaring reminder that the U.S. is a first world country with third world broadband choices. The only positive I see in this matter is at least HughesNet isn't pretending there aren't any caps in place like certain other providers have and then pleading stupidity when they get caught by their own subscriber base (cough Comcrap cough.) Wrong, Wrong Wrong.
The U.S. has AMAZING broadband selections. Not many countries have symmetrical fiber to the home 20/20 for $60/month.
The problem is that America is GIGANTIC and for some people satellite broadband is the ONLY option for ANY kind of internet.
Chances are if you are in the middle of no where, you probably lead a much more simpler life that doesn't rely on broadband like us city slickers and suburbanites need.
I do however agree that for the prices they charge these caps are crazy.... But you also have to remember that bandwidth is SEVERELY limited when it comes to satellites. You can't just add another fiber trunk like a normal ISP can do. The "cap" after a certain amount of usage should be somewhere in the range of 128kbps or so, and bandwidth permitting on the satellite, they should allow 1GB or so of usage. 200 megabytes is way too low for most people nowadays.
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| Re: Simply Pathetic said by Tzale :Chances are if you are in the middle of no where, you probably lead a much more simpler life that doesn't rely on broadband like us city slickers and suburbanites need.-Tzale Chances are that if you live in town, it's in a ghetto and you can only live there because it's government subsidized housing. You should stop selling crack to buy broadband.
Yes, I meant for that to be just as stupid as your comment about rural life. | |
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Chances are if you are in the middle of no where, you probably lead a much more simpler life that doesn't rely on broadband like us city slickers and suburbanites need.
Holy sweet jesus... I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you were making a funny. Our life doesnt "rely" on broadband because there is none  . but damn wouldnt it be nice to shop online, not have to spend 30 bucks driving to town on gas, and not take 10 minutes to open a https page in a checkout. play games, download music, work from home, and all that jazz most folks take for granted
On hughes, you sure arent getting VPN support, and if you make it work, might as well be running dialup anyway. https pages still take forever to load because secured pages arent run through the proxy server. play games? pfft can someone say 1800ms ping times, download music? sure for like 5 minutes before the Fapattack strikes!
yah.. yah.. I know... move, build it yourself, the same tired argument from the same people who in their second breath talk about how tired the argument is that rural areas provide the resources necesarry for them to be able to pile up on one another like a hoarde of flies on a big steamy dog turd, and still be able to survive.  Its apparent neither side is going to ackknowledge credibility to the other there.
Personally I have to stay mobile, or i'd be sitting somewhere with a fat cable connection. but I work in alot of remote places, so i dont expect cable or dsl. and im certainly not building a isp every 2-3 months. The only choices i have are satellite and sprint, and even with 1xrtt.. i havent plugged my hughes modem in for nearly 6 months. One of these days though EVDO will make it around and i'll be perfectly happy. /glare sprint.
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| said by Tzale :Chances are if you are in the middle of no where, you probably lead a much more simpler life that doesn't rely on broadband like us city slickers and suburbanites need. I'm going to stop you right there and disqualify that particular $0.02 because you know not from whence you speak. Just because a person lives in the country does not necessarily mean that person is a country bumpkin/hillbilly.
I am originally from a rural area back east and one of the secondary reasons I left was predominantly because of lack of broadband. Are you going to try to tell me with a straight face that you know that I lead a much more "simpler" life and therefore, did not need broadband? | |
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| Re: Simply Pathetic said by SilverSurfer :said by Tzale :Chances are if you are in the middle of no where, you probably lead a much more simpler life that doesn't rely on broadband like us city slickers and suburbanites need. I'm going to stop you right there and disqualify that particular $0.02 because you know not from whence you speak. Just because a person lives in the country does not necessarily mean that person is a country bumpkin/hillbilly. I am originally from a rural area back east and one of the secondary reasons I left was predominantly because of lack of broadband. Are you going to try to tell me with a straight face that you know that I lead a much more "simpler" life and therefore, did not need broadband? You moved, didn't you? You're the exception to the rule. Most "rural" people I have ran into aren't exactly iPhone toting FIOS fanbois.
If you don't grow up with it, you don't know what you're missing. Ever wonder why the Amish don't bitch about not having A/C during the summer? All that I am trying to say is that MOST rural people are not dependent on having a fast broadband connection like most of us in urban/suburban areas are. I have NO need for a tractor or a silo, yet that is apparently very useful for a lot of farmers. I have no use for 4 wheel drive, since the highways of Jersey are well paved. 
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| And I thought I had it bad Holy cow... And I thought I had it bad when our limit here at University of Illinois was 750mb (this semester it was raise to a very generous 2000).
200? Yikes...
I mean even just normal browsing you could chew that up pretty easily.
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| Re: Heh. said by Tzale :said by rosco :fap fap fap indeed fap fap fap fap, splooge! Guess I wasn't the only one thinking of that.
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| Bleh! Recap, shall we? Why exactly do the big-name companies (I won't mention Comcast for you people, however I'd take it over HughesNet any day.) not invest a little money in bringing service to us rurals? Why is the FCC (and the rest of the federal government) holding back progress?
Hughes is OK for me until this fixed-antenna WiFi manages to acquire signal for a tower that's 1 mile away from me. Stupid trees, stupid elevation, stupid...life...
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| Re: Bleh! said by Beli :Recap, shall we? Why exactly do the big-name companies (I won't mention Comcast for you people, however I'd take it over HughesNet any day.) not invest a little money in bringing service to us rurals? Why is the FCC (and the rest of the federal government) holding back progress? Hughes is OK for me until this fixed-antenna WiFi manages to acquire signal for a tower that's 1 mile away from me. Stupid trees, stupid elevation, stupid...life... Because it costs millions of dollars to roll out service to a dozen people in an area and they get back what? $50-200/month per customer? It would take centuries to break even. Why do you think people who live in really affluent suburban areas always get FIOS and other newer technologies first? Because they can make their money back faster!
I'm sure Comcast and all the other ISPs would LOVE to provide you service. The problem is that there is a limited amount of money and the laws of physics simply don't allow them to provide a broadband connection to you.
The easiest option is to either wait for some new technology that can be provided via wireless or via satellite (seems to be the only viable hope at this point), or move.
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| Re: Bleh! said by TigerLord :Me not buying the service does not justify this pathetic excuse of an ISP charging those rates for 1GB of bandwidth. So, do you have any idea of how expensive it is to have a satellite providing internet service? I don't know the costs involved, but I'm sure it's probably justified... OR maybe it's not and they're just ripping people off because they know people don't have any other options if they're going to resort to satellite. | |
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Chicoutimi | Re: Bleh! I had satellite when I lived in Europe and the cost of infrastructure is the same and it was nowhere near such a rip-off.
Your latter hypothesis is probably closer to the truth. | |
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| Re: Bleh! said by TigerLord :I had satellite when I lived in Europe and the cost of infrastructure is the same and it was nowhere near such a rip-off. Your latter hypothesis is probably closer to the truth. I don't know how true that is. I just did a quick google for UK Satellite Broadband, and I found one ISP offering 512kbps down / 128kbps up for 69 pounds / month + VAT which equals $144.04 in todays dollars + VAT which is 17.5%, so a grand total of $169.26/U.S. dollars per month for a UK 512/128 connection.
I don't know about the rest of Europe, but it appears your view isn't true.
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| Re: Bleh! UK with Switzerland are the most expansive places to stay in Europe. You chose the tip of the Iceberg either on purpose or unknowingly to misrepresent the reality in the majority of EU countries. Have a look in Germany, France, Sweden and Belgium and it'll be quite different !
I paid 60EUR for 25GB/10GB at 2mbit/256kbit in Germany.
VAT is also always included in prices and must not be added seperately. | |
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Tzale
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| Re: Bleh! said by TigerLord :UK with Switzerland are the most expansive places to stay in Europe. You chose the tip of the Iceberg either on purpose or unknowingly to misrepresent the reality in the majority of EU countries. Have a look in Germany, France, Sweden and Belgium and it'll be quite different ! I paid 60EUR for 25GB/10GB at 2mbit/256kbit in Germany. VAT is also always included in prices and must not be added seperately. The obvious reason why I chose a UK ISP is because it would be easy to read the ISPs website to understand the prices and packages.
Even at 60 EURO for 2mbit/256kbit with 25GB/10GB allowed per month, that is expensive. We're talking $88/month just for that package + whatever tax is (apparently it is 10-20% across Europe).
The cost of living is expensive there, but it's just as crazy here in some parts of the United States.
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| hnFap? Am I the only one finding 'loads' of sophomoric humor in the above article? I mean sure, given context its fine, but what fun its that? Remove the context, and damn, thats one dirty article.
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| More FCC lies The FCC classifies satellite as 'broadband'. With a 250MB cap per day, that gives you a total (if you're VERY careful), of about 8GB/month. That's not broadband. The FCC considers Verizon data to be broadband, but you get even LESS bandwidth a month.
The problem the US faces is the classic problem of the have's vs. the have nots. Why should someone who lives in a rural area NOT HAVE CHOICES? The problem is the EXACT same problem we had with electricity, phones, and running water, and police and fire services. Lower distribution over larger area = less ROI for the megacorp. But today, you can pretty much get electricity, phone, water and services ANYWHERE in the US?
How is that possible you say? one word. REGULATION. If you FORCE the companies to provide equal services everywhere, guess what, they will. If you LET the local government provide services, they will. And guess what, all the companies DIDN'T go bankrupt when we forced them to provide what they were selling to everyone.
The ultimate solution, which we will get to eventually, is to treat the internet as the UTILITY it is, and that means that if you're in a high-rise in NYC, or living in a shack in Montana, you will still be able to get services from somewhere.
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| Re: More FCC lies said by karlmarx :Why should someone who lives in a rural area NOT HAVE CHOICES? The problem is the EXACT same problem we had with electricity, phones, and running water, and police and fire services. Lower distribution over larger area = less ROI for the megacorp. But today, you can pretty much get electricity, phone, water and services ANYWHERE in the US? How many choices do you have for electricity, phone (don't count cellular), and water in rural environments?said by karlmarx :all the companies DIDN'T go bankrupt when we forced them to provide what they were selling to everyone. Because we tax payers footed the bill. | |
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| Re: Yuck! said by benc :It makes T1 sound attractive. The price would suck but no artificial caps and high reliability. It's one reason why I can't imagine living in a rural area. The savings generated through lower housing costs would be eaten through T1 costs. And don't forget the time involved since you'd have to go out of town for nearly everything. If a place is over 30 minutes from a shopping mall, it's too rural. Got to be able to buy shirts, you know. Okay, so there's buying on the Internet, but I happen to buy shirts only when I absolutely must, so when I must I can't wait for shipping. What's a shopping mall?????
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| Re: Yuck! said by inthewoods :said by benc :It makes T1 sound attractive. The price would suck but no artificial caps and high reliability. It's one reason why I can't imagine living in a rural area. The savings generated through lower housing costs would be eaten through T1 costs. And don't forget the time involved since you'd have to go out of town for nearly everything. If a place is over 30 minutes from a shopping mall, it's too rural. Got to be able to buy shirts, you know. Okay, so there's buying on the Internet, but I happen to buy shirts only when I absolutely must, so when I must I can't wait for shipping. What's a shopping mall????? LOL. Ha ha.
Seriously though, I've yet to see a Macy's or Bergner's at a place that's not a shopping mall, and I need to go to one of those places if I want to buy shirts that fit. Target and Kohl's don't cut it. Not because of quality, but because of size selection.
Interestingly if I want jeans I have to go to K-Mart to buy the ones that work best for me.
It may sound odd, but I have to remember which stores to go to since I'm a special size (I'm fairly thin).
At least I can buy clothes at a store. For PC parts I always have to go online. But then again, you don't worry about how PC parts fit in quite the same way. With PCs, you can do online research and have 100% confidence.
Shoes on the other hand, I simply will not buy online. I must wear shoes before buying, and you can't take shoes to the tailor to fix them.
Hopefully you can at least buy shoes and/or work boots in rural areas. | |
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| Have you checked into a rural T1?
In the U.P. of MI, a 1.5Mbps T1 is $3,700/mo on a 3 year term. 3Mbps is $7,500/mo. 6Mbps is $13,000/mo.
What kills a rural installation is the "local access" which connects the customer to the telephone company's nearest point of presence.
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| Re: Yuck! said by joeMI :Have you checked into a rural T1? In the U.P. of MI, a 1.5Mbps T1 is $3,700/mo on a 3 year term. 3Mbps is $7,500/mo. 6Mbps is $13,000/mo. What kills a rural installation is the "local access" which connects the customer to the telephone company's nearest point of presence. Really?!
I thought it'd cost between $400 (near a metro) to maybe $1,000/mo., although that doesn't include build-out costs.
Yet, I thought of an unlimited satellite plan that's 2.0Mbps down and costs $5K/mo., although that's for yacht owners, people who have a LOT of cash.
Would shotgun EDGE do it (two EDGE connections in a dual-WAN config.)? | |
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| Re: Yuck! You're right.
1.5Mbps is roughly $388, 3.0 is $825 and 6.0 is $1100.
The rest of the fee is for the "local access" unless of course I lay my own cable.
I have a 2Mbps satellite plan for $179 but it is limited to 1250MB/day with an unlimited period between 3AM and 6AM ET. Unfortunately, I only get 1.5Mbps in off-peak times.
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HughesNet | Business Internet plan | HN7000S | .98m/2W dish | 91W:1050MHz | 65 signal | ACP 82 | 1150Kbps/80Kbps | |
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one thing don't understand,