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join:2005-04-10
Elizabeth City, NC | Yeah, right! Here in TWC's Elizabeth City area, formerly Adelphia, they have yet to spend a penny on infrastructure and do not even offer video on demand, let alone HD. And the picture quality of what they do offer is poor. | |
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Austin, TX
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| Re: Yeah, right! Lets see, TWC in Austin was the pilot (IIRC) for switched video and they don't cerry all the HD channels that DirecTV has. And I'm talking about Sci-Fi, USA, FX etc, not the RSN's or PPV's. So what good is having the infrastructure in place if you're not going to carry the channels? | |
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Altitude is your friend
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Laguna Hills, CA | Re: Yeah, right! 'Cause it makes for great advertising to lure in suckers. | |
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Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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Mount Airy, MD
| said by King Duck  :Here in TWC's Elizabeth City area, formerly Adelphia, they have yet to spend a penny on infrastructure and do not even offer video on demand, let alone HD. The same is true with us in a former Adelphia territory with Comcast. At least we get some HDTV and broadband, or I would have dropped them altogether. The real kicker is that Comcast doesn't seem to know which county we are in (our bill says one, the techs tell us another), and their last box update removed HD channels that we were "never supposed to get."
I'm seriously starting to tire of them, at least with regards to TV. At the rate I am going, I might just bite the bullet and switch to satellite.
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I came, I saw, I slept
join:2004-06-26
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| Re: Yeah, right! said by pnh102 :I'm seriously starting to tire of them, at least with regards to TV. At the rate I am going, I might just bite the bullet and switch to satellite. I feel the same way, but after researching the brochures from cable and satellite I've concluded one thing: neither can put together a coherent product offering so that you can make an informed decision on whatever the hell it is they're selling you!  Comcast's latest flyer is a nightmare of footnotes and satellite? I throw my hands up with all the add-on charges for everything.
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Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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| Re: Yeah, right! said by Titus Pullo :I feel the same way, but after researching the brochures from cable and satellite I've concluded one thing: neither can put together a coherent product offering so that you can make an informed decision on whatever the hell it is they're selling you! Well I have been able to use a "package creator" on DirecTV and Dish's websites. Dish is out of the question because they do not offer the options I want. DirecTV, if I wanted to switch, would cost me about $500 upfront for the cost of the equipment (2 HD DVRs). My main beef with that is that on top of that, I'd have to pay a monthly service charge for each box, even though I own them... and I cannot use them anywhere else should I not be satisfied.
said by Titus Pullo : Comcast's latest flyer is a nightmare of footnotes and satellite? I throw my hands up with all the add-on charges for everything. I still think it is funny how we continue to get "updated channel lineups" from Comcast... for the wrong cable system. The weird thing here is that our town is split between 2 counties in Maryland, and we are in the one county that had been upgraded, but our town isn't included in the upgrade.
Supposedly, we'll get upgraded once the other county gets upgraded, but I doubt we'll see anything. My guess is that Comcast will upgrade the other county, but leave our town in the lurch.
said by Titus Pullo :.sig dreaming of rabbit ears One of my next door neighbors has an antenna that she is not using... I am tempted to hook it up to my TV and see what I can get. 
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join:2003-09-12
Fayetteville, NC
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| I can definitely tell you that Time Warner is working on getting the infrastructure built up down here in Fayetteville. For the past month, I've seen contractors out running fiber all over the city. Down Bragg Boulevard, they've had lanes blocked off almost every single day for the past few weeks installing it.
Last year, I noticed that they also were working on adding a bunch more nodes around the city. So, they're working on shrinking the number of people per node, which is good. My internet speeds are steady at any time of day or night, so I can actually say that I'm fairly impressed with Time Warner down here. I just wish that they would upgrade our speeds. I'm perfectly happy with 8Mbps down from Premium, but 512Kbps up is very lacking.
I have to admit that they've actually done some good in the HD range lately, too. They've added HGTV HD, Food Network HD, National Geographic HD, TBS HD, and Golf Channel HD in the past two months. The ones I really want, though, are Discovery HD, USA HD, and History Channel HD. | |
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Altitude is your friend
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join:2007-12-26
Laguna Hills, CA | FTC may not like that Claiming unlimited is a bit more than puffery. It's unsubstantiated and limitations on the technology, even SDV, make supporting such a claim impossible. | |
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Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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| Re: FTC may not like that said by Dogfather :Claiming unlimited is a bit more than puffery. Uhhh... the only time most of us can remember a provider being sanctioned for using the term "unlimited" in a deceitful manner is when Verizon Wireless was punished by the NY AG for using the term in describing its data plans. Other than that, numerous service providers continue to use the term in misleading advertising with impunity.
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Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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| Re: FTC may not like that said by Dogfather :That Verizon thing was fairly recently and most companies have legal departments stopping the marketing dopes from making such outrageous claims. Well that is encouraging news. Personally, I've gotten to the point where I simply refuse to believe the word "unlimited" when it is mentioned in any service offering. I always know there will be a catch.
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join:2007-12-26
Laguna Hills, CA | Re: FTC may not like that Given the litigious nature of this battle recently (between I believe Comcast and DirecTV over the HD claims) I'm very surprised this "unlimited" claim made it past legal. | |
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Support The Clecs
join:2001-06-19
Duluth, GA | Unless there are an unlimited number of standard channels, how could their possibly be an unlimited number of HD ones? Makes no sense.
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Laguna Hills, CA | Re: FTC may not like that Looks like they're claiming unlimited capacity, which is also bullpucky. | |
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join:2001-06-11
Camarillo, CA | Re: DirecTV As a new Time Warner digital subscriber, I am sorely disappointed by the lack of HD channels available. | |
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join:1999-07-23
Austin, TX
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| said by Matt :I am very happy with Time Warner here, but their HD lineup is pathetic. After finally realizing I was paying almost twice what a comparable DirecTV package would cost and DirecTV had tons more HD (including the ACTUAL Discovery Channel in HD, not HD Theater), I dropped Time Warner. I hope they up their HD offering. I'd switch back because I miss my HD DVR and I am not letting DirecTV drill holes in my walls and floors. You can use the DirecTV HD DVR with only one coax line, it just means that only one tuner will work. As an FYI, DirecTV is working on a solution to allow for one wire to be used and a number of people have been testing it for almost a year and is starting to roll out in limited areas. You might want to check out www.dbstalk.com on the DirecTV section for the SWM (single wire module). | |
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Running Free
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join:2003-07-20
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| Re: DirecTV said by radougherty :said by Matt :I am very happy with Time Warner here, but their HD lineup is pathetic. After finally realizing I was paying almost twice what a comparable DirecTV package would cost and DirecTV had tons more HD (including the ACTUAL Discovery Channel in HD, not HD Theater), I dropped Time Warner. I hope they up their HD offering. I'd switch back because I miss my HD DVR and I am not letting DirecTV drill holes in my walls and floors. You can use the DirecTV HD DVR with only one coax line, it just means that only one tuner will work. As an FYI, DirecTV is working on a solution to allow for one wire to be used and a number of people have been testing it for almost a year and is starting to roll out in limited areas. You might want to check out www.dbstalk.com on the DirecTV section for the SWM (single wire module). I had already waited 6 months or so for the single wire multiswitch. The DirecTV installer i spoke to didn't even know what it was.
When they come out with it, I'll likely purchase it on my own along with the DTV HD DVR or hopefully by then, an HD Tivo. | |
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| Re: DirecTV If you're waiting for an HD Tivo that will work with satellite you may be out of luck. Directv has shown absolutely no interest in developing a new Tivo box that will work with their latest MPEG4 HD channels. With how passionate Tivo users are it seems like news of something like that would have leaked out by now, but so far nada. In fact I believe that the last agreement the two signed was strictly for patent lawsuit protection for DTV from Tivo and for Tivo to provide occasional software and support updates to the boxes already in use. | |
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| Re: DirecTV said by unoriginal :If you're waiting for an HD Tivo that will work with satellite you may be out of luck. Directv has shown absolutely no interest in developing a new Tivo box that will work with their latest MPEG4 HD channels. With how passionate Tivo users are it seems like news of something like that would have leaked out by now, but so far nada. In fact I believe that the last agreement the two signed was strictly for patent lawsuit protection for DTV from Tivo and for Tivo to provide occasional software and support updates to the boxes already in use. »arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20···ctv.html | |
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join:1999-07-23
Austin, TX
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| Re: DirecTV said by Matt :said by unoriginal :If you're waiting for an HD Tivo that will work with satellite you may be out of luck. Directv has shown absolutely no interest in developing a new Tivo box that will work with their latest MPEG4 HD channels. With how passionate Tivo users are it seems like news of something like that would have leaked out by now, but so far nada. In fact I believe that the last agreement the two signed was strictly for patent lawsuit protection for DTV from Tivo and for Tivo to provide occasional software and support updates to the boxes already in use. » arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20···ctv.html As said, don't hold your breath waiting on a HD Tivo that will receive the new MPEG4 channels. The link only mentions the currently installed based of DirecTV Tivo units to get a software update to add some new features, MPEG4 requires a hardware upgrade then they'd also need to be modified to receive the Ka band signals for the new channels. Folks with contacts within DirecTV technical management at www.dbstalk.com have reported they've been told no new Tivo from DirecTV. | |
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bhorow
join:2004-05-17
Forest Hills, NY
| This is kind of an old story Every cable operator plans on implementing switched video and frankly. Eventually all the channels will be available in HD. How soon, and how important that really is. Cable companies have to enter into contracts with Broadcasters to carry channels its not like snap my fingers and here it is type of thing. I have no doubt that every cable company will carry about the same channels in HD.
i don't think of it as a big story to be honest with you. If anything really should be looked at closely from a consumer point of view is when Time Warner will get Starz on Demand. | |
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join:2003-01-29
Waterloo, ON | Godly Workings I don't know of any cable company that even offers an unlimited number of regular channels. So Time Warner must have collaborated with some higher power to be able to deliver unlimited HD channels. | |
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join:2000-08-10
Willow Spring, NC
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| Re: Godly Workings It's a marketing thing.
What it does mean is they can add any HD Channel (likely at reduced quality) as they come on line.
However, if you have a S Cable Card on a device that doesn't support two way Cable Cards (most devices like Series 3 TiVo fall in this category), you're screwed.
And as for the money they will spend, actually it's the money they raised by increasing our rates 12% this month for a bunch of channels I don't care to watch. | |
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join:2004-08-05
Home
| Unlimited is not the same thing as infinite. Which everyone seems to be using "unlimited" as meaning "infinite" for some strange reason.
Unlimited means not limited, meaning they will not be limited technologically in the number of HD channels they can offer, but obviously, they are limited in the number of channels available from broadcasters, which has nothing to do with them. | |
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| Re: Godly Workings Obviously, definition #2 doesn't apply to TV CHANNELS. Do you think there are an infinite number of TV channels and somehow the definition for unlimited in this case would be #2?
Using the dictionary in an argument is ridiculous, especially when you choose the definition that doesn't even work in the context.
Like I said, people are using "unlimited" as meaning "infinite" in this context. I NEVER said "infinite" was not one of the definitions of "unlimited."
Context clues are your friend. Use them.
Their channel capacity with SDV is unlimited when you consider that the amount of channels is currently limited. Neither one can be infinite, and the definition you chose does not apply.
If the amount of channels was somehow infinite, then sure, they would be lying if they said SDV allowed an unlimited capacity for channels. | |
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join:2002-03-17
Mesa, AZ | Re: TWC needs more HD! Well their fiber will run out of bandwidth at a certain point... so it isn't "unlimited..." but everyone loves that word, so why not use it?  | |
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join:2003-06-22
Matthews, NC
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| Re: TWC needs more HD! It is unlimited. They're shrinking the node sizes based on the number of digital tuners in the node so every tuner can watch a different channel. They still have the ability to fit the same # of channels as they had before switched digital they just aren't broadcasting what's not being watched. However, even though they have the technology to carry every channel in existence obviously that won't happen. This is a major upgrade it should also make all your services more reliable due to the smaller node size. Go TWC! | |
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join:2005-06-29
clubs: | Here we go again one more time Who cares about Tv  faster internet speeds please. | |
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join:2002-05-17
Palm Desert, CA
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said by hayabusa3303 :Who cares about Tv faster internet speeds please. You guys want Unlimited HDTV and Unlimited Internet Speeds, all for $20/mo. It ain't going to happen!!! | |
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join:2006-01-11
Merrill, WI
| My thoughts If cable companies got rid of analog and used sdv then they will have plenty of bandwidth. In a 750 mhz system you have 111-117 usable channels. If you used one for telephony, lets say 10 bonded for modem (38 Mbs x 10 channels = 380 Mbs) that would leave you with at least 100 channels available.
Now depending on compression you can fit 2 or 3 HD channels. So I'll use 2.5 x 90 channels = 225 channels of HD. Now the last 10 channels you can still broadcast a "basic" analog tier or 100 standard digital channels.
Now all those numbers aren't including switched digital. SDV will give around a 50% increase in usable bandwidth. So then we have 337 hd channels, 10 analog, and our 380 Mbs internet.
Now the last step in my number game is that a 750 mhz system is outdated and we are seeing a move to 1 gig systems giving another 20% more bandwidth. So the final numbers would be 405 hd channels, 10 analog or 180 digital, and 456 Mbs internet.
I know this isn't "unlimited" but I doubt anyone can make a list of channels to use it up at this time unless you started to use foreign channels. | |
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join:2001-05-11
Chapel Hill, NC
| New HD User I just got my first HDTV this past week after Christmas and was pretty stoked to get HDTV. I've always used TWC for SD and they've always met my expectations so I figured I'd go ahead and give them a shot for HD as well.
Now that I'm looking for HD content TWC seems a little behind the times. It's great that they have all the local channels in HD but they have very few of the other channels that I've always enjoyed watching. Such as Sci-fi, History Channel and many others. Those two alone are just about deal-breakers for me.
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| go satellite or uverse What is stopping you guys from switching to satellite the grass is much greener on this side. (though I think uverse may give it a good run for the money). One poster seemed concerned with add on charges - far fewer than Time Warner. Dish has a hd dvr that is free up front that has more capacity. I used to work for time Warner, I am aware of their fees and charges. most of us did not subscribe to them then and still dont. Here most time warner installers use dish at home. They arent changing any node sizes other than to see how overcrowded they can make it. They just want to claim all this great capacity but never mention they have no plan to use it. We have another company around here GVTC that has invested in fiber to the home and touted their great technology lead but what they offer is fewer than even TWs outdated system. So what is the point in investing in all the wonderful new technologies if you have absolutely no intention to actually use them other than bragging rights? | |
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join:2005-05-29
Brooklyn, NY
| Time Warner is a Mafia Time Warner is one of the most inept and greedy companies I have ever had the misfortune of being involved with. They sat on their asses until Verizon and DirecTV put the fear of *** back into them, now they're struggling to catch up.
If it wasn't for this competition, these Time Warner gangsters would have switched to tiered internet service rates and not added a single HD channel, until perhaps the FCC stepped in. Time Warner never does anything beneficial for customers voluntarily, it takes legal action or competition to get them to improve their service.
Don't forget that throughout all this, Time Warner and the rest of the telecom/cable monopolists are rolling in blood money. Don't let them fool you into thinking business is bad. Their business is better than it has ever been, and yet they still want to find way to squeeze more $$$ out of customers.
Let this be a lesson to all Americans, if you don't support competition in business, and if you don't support consumer rights, you will be robbed and beaten down into serfdom. | |
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join:2008-03-24
San Diego, CA
| Regarding One Channel Stream Hi, I am a current employee of Time Warner. There are a great deal of other project yet to complete, but Im confident with the guys here illuminating us with this current project which is not far away from complete. Now, I only speak of San Diego area, as far as Desert Cities, it has already been running.
Any Q's, notify the Timewarner
San Diego/Carlsbad/Barstow
Marc Farrar
Vice President of Public Affairs
Time Warner Cable San Diego
Phone: (858) 635-8486
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