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KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
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Fox and NBC sue Dish? Wow, never saw that coming...

Go Dish.
Kearnstd
Elf Wizard
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Re: Fox and NBC sue Dish? Wow, never saw that coming...

Also in the article Fox is quoted as saying "Violating copyrights" that will bite them in a court. If the DVR does not alter the content and is only effectively fastforwarding that does not fall under copyright.
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dib22

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...and destroying the fundamental underpinnings of the broadcast television ecosystem.

Customer choice destroys the fundamental underpinnings of the broadcast television echo system ehh? Broadcast tv only works when you can only watch one show at a time?

Let's just take back those airwaves and make them high speed universal internet.
fiberguy
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Re: Fox and NBC sue Dish? Wow, never saw that coming...

I also love how they claim this undermines "free television" when the very people that would be helping to violate this very ecosystem are PAYING for the "free" television. I think the broadcasters have long forgotten the last crap they pulled on the American people by taking free television and forcing payment on it.

Perhaps they should no longer need advertisements to be displayed on cable and satellite subscribers since they get money every month.

Also, it's not a violation of copyright to allow a consumer to skip an advertisement. The decision to view or not view content isn't a violation of copyright... never has been, never will be.

Don't these dinosaurs already have enough billions in dollars that they would really need to continue to push the American people even further into crap they don't want? Just who exactly are these broadcasters trying to protect anyway?
Kearnstd
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Re: Fox and NBC sue Dish? Wow, never saw that coming...

In a way CATV and Sat customers have every right to skip ads, Retrans fees are paying for their viewing of the channel.
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RE:Lawmakers call on DOJ to reopen investigation into Google

This is what is known as beating a dead horse. Google got some info they should'nt have. They made no use of that inadvertently gathered info. It has already been investigated to death here and in the EU, verifying info wasn't used. U.S. Reps. Frank Pallone Jr. (D-N.J.) and John Barrow (D-Ga.) called on the DOJ to investigate Google's actions for potential violations of federal wiretapping laws. These 2 pols are idiots and are posturing for the voters in November, pretending they are doing something about privacy. They are just as bad as those NY State legislators who want to force everyone to make their home address available before posting online. That will never become law and if it did, a Federal Court would stop it the next day with an injunction,.
Kearnstd
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Re: RE:Lawmakers call on DOJ to reopen investigation into Google

Maybe the DOJ is just jealous that Google has a superior information gathering ability to every single letter agency combined.
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dib22

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Open wifi is open... public airwaves.
They should look at what facebook is doing instead... google never asked me for a copy of my drivers license.

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me1212

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Pleasant Hill, MO

Re: RE:Lawmakers call on DOJ to reopen investigation into Google

Not to mention its not exactly hard for anyone to spy on what others are doing on open networks.

And I 100% agree with investigating facebook. Google doesn't ask me for my credit card # to send a message to a friend.

IowaCowboy
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They should order Google to destroy the data obtained from the Wi-Fi snooping.

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Re: RE:Lawmakers call on DOJ to reopen investigation into Google

said by IowaCowboy:

They should order Google to destroy the data obtained from the Wi-Fi snooping.

Google has been asking to destroy the data for some time. But the courts in various countries have said destroy it; don't destroy it; turn it over to them; etc. When a corporation does business in multiple countries, regulators and courts issue conflicting orders.
Kearnstd
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Re: RE:Lawmakers call on DOJ to reopen investigation into Google

the "Turn it over" Orders are the most concerning, from one side they cry about privacy violations and then they want to snoop it themselves when the most piracy wise thing to do would be to destroy the data.
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Simba7
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Billings, MT

Verizon CFO: LTE enables new kinds of data plans

..translated.. "We can charge our customers even more now for less!"

reub2000
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Evanston, IL

Re: Verizon CFO: LTE enables new kinds of data plans

Too easy
rradina

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Chesterfield, MO

Broadband in crisis


One America does some tweeting and Facebook on their inferior, slower wireless devices. The other America not only gets to enjoy video online, but they can also apply for jobs, do video-conferencing, get an education online and, ultimately, live in the 21st century. Crawford argues that this digital divide ends up creating inequality between the haves and have-nots in America.




Is this person from a state that has legalized the use of medical marijuana? Apply for jobs, video teleconferencing, education online?

1) Someone with dialup can get online and apply for jobs. If not, drive to the nearest library. A recent article said that some state (WV?) used economic stimulus money to install $25K routers in rural libraries with three computers.

2) I thought decent video conferencing can be done with as little as a 300Kbps. I'd hardly call this "high speed" or broadband Internet access. My parents live in rural MO and get 1Mbps/512K wireless service for $50/month.

3) Education on-line? If one can do video conferencing with 300Kbps, you can surely watch a live classroom feed, if that's what getting an education online means. If it means accessing text books and course material, you can do that on dialup.

I won't argue that I really enjoy my 15Mbps/3Mbps broadband connection for $29/month (bundled price) but except for entertainment-quality video, I'm not convinced I'm on the other side of some digital divide.

Of course I do agree that the state of Internet connectivity is a mess. I liked the reference to being in a crisis not unlike the finance and banking industry, which in my opinion is being run by casino-like crooks! How spooky is Verizon's latest crowing about LTE giving them the ability for content services to pay them so those bytes don't impact end-user caps? Why does this sound like the same old guard that once-upon-a-time figured out how to charge hundreds of dollars per month for intra-LATA phone calls that today are included in the cost of basic voice plans? (I remember having a $300 phone bill for making a lot of calls to my girlfriend who was in college about 100 miles away. Ughhh!) Not only that but they also figured out how to maximize revenue by establishing concentric circles of ever-increasing dialtone rates around the large city of every metro area. They sure came out smelling like a rose as population shifted from cities to suburbs. Same phone, twice the cost!

I honestly don't know where things are going. I agree we need changes but I just wish folks would stop with the "digital divide" sensationalism. Is that honestly what it takes to get folks interested in change?

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