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story category The Plan To Take ConnectKentucky Nationwide
It's going forward but users don't think it's a good plan
(old news - 01:43PM Saturday Sep 01 2007)
tags: dsl · alternatives · Politics · municipal · consumers
After ConnectKentucky saw success in bringing high speed Internet to residents throughout the state, it started to be held up as the model for nationwide broadband expansion. A new press release shows that this plan continues with the formation of a national umbrella program called Connected Nation being developed based on ConnectKentucky. Although the press release has only glowing things to say about Connected Nation, many people fear that taking the state model to the national level will result in failure. MuniWireless points out that the model is based on DSL, a service which may only enhance the digital divide that the model is trying to bridge. And the summary in our forums is that ConnectKentucky is “fooling everybody”.

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korym
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How about using...

...EVDO cards (business subscriptions) partnered with Meraki mesh units to build a robust network in rural areas?

Granted, I just saw this post and quickly thought of this. But, with a bit of thought, this might be worth looking into. No need to try to run DSL pipes all the way out to the rural areas (it won't happen anyway) since EVDO service is portable and the Meraki infrastructure would further grow the network with its mesh capabilities.

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Kory
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whiteyonenh

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Re: How about using...

said by korym See Profile :

...EVDO cards (business subscriptions) partnered with Meraki mesh units to build a robust network in rural areas?

Granted, I just saw this post and quickly thought of this. But, with a bit of thought, this might be worth looking into. No need to try to run DSL pipes all the way out to the rural areas (it won't happen anyway) since EVDO service is portable and the Meraki infrastructure would further grow the network with its mesh capabilities.

Regards,
Kory
The only problem with that option is that EVDO would have to actually be deployed in the area, many times 1X or EDGE is the only cellular option, with speeds in the 110k-150k range with latency in the 300-400ms range, it just doesn't make any sense.

korym
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Re: How about using...

I figured it was probably a long shot. Still, probably better than satellite access which may be the only other alternative unless a WISP could set up local service.

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Those behind ConnectedNation

The companies backing ConnectedNation:
»www.connectednation.com/partners/

And here are the 5 people that will lead he ConnectedNation effort:
»www.connectednation.com/leadership/
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MrMoody
Under the black helicopters

join:2002-09-03
Smithfield, NC

Rural DSL

Plenty of people I know would be glad to have DSL as their only broadband choice.

ARGONAUT
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New Albany, IN

Re: Rural DSL

They would have better coverage running WiFi off of cell phone towers.

Fox McCloud
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Re: Rural DSL

said by ARGONAUT See Profile :

They would have better coverage running WiFi off of cell phone towers.
If every cellphone tower also had WISP equipment mounted on it, there would be very very few people who wouldn't have broadband access.

Anyway, there's a great number of RT's that are very DSL capable (fiber fed), but they lack a DSLAM...come on people, just put a freaking DSLAM there and you'll expand your coverage significantly....

However, you'll still have dead-zones....

*sigh* I think it'll be years before the broadband divide is ever truly "fixed".

ARGONAUT
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September 1st, @10:32PM

Re: Rural DSL

disregard.
Sammer

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said by Fox McCloud See Profile :

*sigh* I think it'll be years before the broadband divide is ever truly "fixed".
IMHO there will always be a digital divide. Imagine what things will be like in 50 years. FTTH will be available to a majority of American homes. Because of mobility wireless also has a very strong future. By then FTTH will be used in ways most of us have never thought of including medical treatment. Some may only use FTTH as a connection point for their future version of a wireless router. Still others will probably decide that despite the bandwidth constraints a WISP meets their then current needs.

However just as you can now build a house beyond the power grid, beyond the PSTN, and beyond the reach of cell towers there will be homes where the described future will not exist in 50 years. None of what I just said is meant to suggest that no one should try to reduce the digital divide as much as possible.

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Re: Rural DSL

said by Sammer See Profile :

said by Fox McCloud See Profile :

*sigh* I think it'll be years before the broadband divide is ever truly "fixed".
IMHO there will always be a digital divide. Imagine what things will be like in 50 years. FTTH will be available to a majority of American homes. Because of mobility wireless also has a very strong future. By then FTTH will be used in ways most of us have never thought of including medical treatment. Some may only use FTTH as a connection point for their future version of a wireless router. Still others will probably decide that despite the bandwidth constraints a WISP meets their then current needs.

However just as you can now build a house beyond the power grid, beyond the PSTN, and beyond the reach of cell towers there will be homes where the described future will not exist in 50 years. None of what I just said is meant to suggest that no one should try to reduce the digital divide as much as possible.
I generally agree; I just don't like it when there are people in rural areas that aren't truly "out in the middle of nowhere" (for example, I say that I am, but, in actuality, I'm only 12-15 minutes from town...which isn't terribly far)...and yet the fail to deploy here.

The one silver lining is that once FTTH is deployed, it'll probably stay in place until the "end of time" so to speak, as every few years, someone finds a way to squeeze even more bandwidth out of a single strand of fiber. I can't see DSL lasting beyond 2015, as copper will become more expensive and fiber by then...and I can't see cable being able to compete with fiber in the long-run (that'll be an interesting time, the telco's will have the cable companies on the run when it comes to bandwidth).

And let's be honest; it seems that the bandwidth speeds being offered increase faster than that size of the actual media we download...therefore, I would tend to think it would be decades (if not a century or so) until we would even want a 1 terabit connection.

crosfire98

@bellsouth.net

I had the Dslam discussion with the Bellsouth engineers just a couple of weeks ago, and like everything else, it all comes down to dollars and cents. My central office has DSL, but no Dslam, so the service ends less than a half-mile from my house.

Bellsouth won't even consider installing a Dslam in another year or two because of the cost, even though I was assured back in 1999 I would be able to subscribe within 6 months.
Semi75

join:2006-01-03
Waddy, KY
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Connect KY has failed in AT&T and BS areas

It is amazing how far certain areas of the state have come, I will give them that but the program has mainly focused outside of the AT&T/Bellsouth areas, that giant just won't move and many suburban areas are still left in the dark. In many areas of the more populated areas that were served by BS there is no change yet. AT&T will miss their 12/07 deadline.

The good news is all the options even way out in the country in little backwoods counties that barely have more than a one lane road going through.

jhawk44

join:2006-10-19
Boston, VA

Re: Connect KY has failed in AT&T and BS areas

Do what everyone tells me when I say companies should expand to rural areas. Move into the city (or in this case the country XD).

/sarcasmoff

evilt00l

join:2003-03-20
Winchester, KY
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from what I've seen its worthless

I live in a city less than 20 miles from Lexington and my only choice for broadband is TWC RR service. I have family in eastern ky. and they have no options except for dailup. So not working as great as everyone thinks it is...
BosstonesOwn

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Everett, MA
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Re: from what I've seen its worthless

At least you have an option for Broadband. I have family on the outskirts of Bardstown and they have 0 options. When I visit I have to bring a sprint air card to be able to check my email or heaven forbid a server emergency.

The local cable co is a township company and they stop about 8 houses up at the major intersection.
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DemonChicken

join:2006-10-15
Boon, MI

Re: from what I've seen its worthless

Lets see I'm 10 miles from town.

No DSL for me. DSL extended to my 120 population and similar population neighboors. Not to me. Its in meauataka MI right now. Thats about 14 miles away from me. I'm praying....
Bombgod

join:2006-06-05
Lawrenceville, GA

ConnectKentucky = 256 kbps (not broadband)

ConnectKentucky is all about dumbing down the definition of broadband to make less than mediocre look good and not about building bigger pipes. CK is pushing for 256 kbps as the definition of broadband. I'll pass on a national model of 256 kbps.
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