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join:2001-06-03
Norwalk, CA | Nuh uh Politicians can be bought? Saying that is just unpatriotic.. | |
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Jaime
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join:2001-06-03
Norwalk, CA | Re: Nuh uh Nah, got them cheap at wallymart  | |
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join:2003-01-03
Lake Forest, IL
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| Re: Nuh uh said by RayW  :said by MattE :said by Jaime :Politicians can be bought? Saying that is just unpatriotic.. Skrote must be wearing the Bush-Vision goggles that he ordered out of the back of the Right-Wing Propogandist - I heard there was a deal on them in this month's issue.  Or the Clinton-vision spectacles, China got a super deal in technology for their payments. Face it, if you want to get rich, become a politician. Don't go casting the light of truth on him, the idea that Democrats can be bad also is too much for some "left-wing" apologists to understand.;) | |
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| jpark
join:2005-02-05
Jackson, TN | No. They can't be bought. They can only be rented.
Unfortunately, the only warranty is that they will run ... | |
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claco
join:2002-09-29
Tallmadge, OH | There is only one long term solution All congress critters need to receive their salary and nothing more while they are in office...nothing... from anyone.
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master1000
join:2001-02-22
Fort Pierre, SD
| Re: There is only one long term solution I second that our system is so corrupt.. They are there for the people not big biz. I think this used to be called bribery and was illegal now it's just another loophole that they have made because they make the laws and it's called a political contribution. | |
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| radougherty
join:1999-07-23
Austin, TX
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| said by claco :All congress critters need to receive their salary and nothing more while they are in office...nothing... from anyone. The main driver for bagging $'s is so they can get reelected. When campaigns start over a year in advance and costs millions of dollars they need to grab every dollar they can find to help with the bills. IMHO, get campaign reform, a real reform not the BS they keep trying to pass so they don't hurt themselves, and it would cut back a lot on this garbage. | |
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GhostDoggy
join:2005-05-11
Duluth, GA | Why report the obvious? Its like saying we all put on pants, one leg at a time, or cars typically have wheels. Opensecrets.org is a great resource, and especially if you want to see what MPA and RIAA is pushing monies to. | |
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| Re: Why report the obvious? Hmmm. I've always put my pants on both legs at the same time. Guess I'm weird. But the really weird thing is that almost the entire population thinks that politicians are corrupt in some way yet WE keep these people in office. I believe that being corrupt is a prerequisite of running for office at any level. I agree that until the money stops flowing to people in office, they cannot speak for the American people. | |
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| | kellenw
join:2003-11-20
Kansas City, MO
| Re: Why report the obvious? said by Passer by :
Hmmm. I've always put my pants on both legs at the same time. Guess I'm weird. But the really weird thing is that almost the entire population thinks that politicians are corrupt in some way yet WE keep these people in office. I believe that being corrupt is a prerequisite of running for office at any level. I agree that until the money stops flowing to people in office, they cannot speak for the American people.
Not true. We vote them OUT...
By voting IN another equally corrupt one. hehe...
Lobbying I agree with. Campaign $$$ contributions I don't. That's just legislation to the highest bidder and hence the reason why we have RIAA et al. They are really just new age political machines. | |
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| waning political power Of all the telcos, Verizon has the most political clout.. at&t/sbc as a combined company are waning in their power (partly due to the merger). Just because sbc territory covers the most people doesn't mean that its the most PROFITABLE of regions!! | |
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cableties
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join:2005-01-27
Levittown, PA
| The internet is good source of why our government needs an enema!
Conflict of interests.
Collusion.
Conspiracy to deceive the American people.
All for profit (some CEO gains) and loss (the American economic principles).
"Can I get a $1 from everyone so I can afford to evict the very people that have made our dollar worth $.50?" | |
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TelecomJunky
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join:2005-12-12
Kansas City, MO
| Track it. We need a site, perhaps broadbandreports, to combine this information. Lets track what the cable and phone monopolies are paying and to who. Let's track who is sponsoring anti-competitive bills and who is voting for or against them.
We need a comprehensive list of who needs to go so that we can effectively advocate their removal on a nationwide scale.
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DHRacer
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join:2000-10-10
Lake Arrowhead, CA
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| Re: Track it. You would be forced to remove the entire Federal goverment at that point.
They're all bought and paid for by some lobby or another.
Military Contracts? Sold!
Telecom Bills? Sold!
Federal Building Projects? Sold!
the list is endless, and sickening.
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TelecomJunky
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join:2005-12-12
Kansas City, MO
| Re: Track it. said by DHRacer :You would be forced to remove the entire Federal goverment at that point. You say that like it would be a bad thing.
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| bamabrad
join:2006-01-27
Port Orange, FL | How about the 'BACKSCRATCHERS'-that is the "if you vote for mine I'll vote for yours" people? Two votes (alone) will not make or pass a law or bill | |
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bamabrad
join:2006-01-27
Port Orange, FL | Backscratchers.. Let's not forget the 'BACKSCRATCHERS'-that is "If you vote for mine I'll vote for yours"--TWO lawmakers do not a law pass(or make | |
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Jason Levine
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join:2001-07-13
Albany, NY
| PITA???? Wait, I thought bills were supposed to have cute, catchy or patriotic names to get themselves passed. But the "Preserving Innovation in Telecom Act of 2005" would be "PITA." Of course, the first thing I thought of with that acronym was "Pain In The Ass." Of course, that's what PITA would be for any town that wanted muni-broadband, so maybe it's an appropriate name after all.
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packetscan
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join:2004-10-19
Bridgeport, CT
clubs: | Joke? Any you thought my sig was a joke..
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EcoTony
join:2005-12-08
San Diego, CA
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| Just Blame Clinton.... As I recall.... The Congress has been in the hands of the Republicans since 1994. The Presidency since 2000. All trade treaties are ratified by the Senate, who has been under the Republican leadership during the last 14 years (if you mean leadership is leading toward destruction of personal rights and bankruptcy). Seems most of the shafting has happened during this time. At the same time, our deficit and national debt has gone through the roof.
It's funny, whenever the Republicans look bad, they just blame Clinton or say Clinton did it too (which isn't always true, but they say it anyway).
Sadly, there isn't any proof of what I say because every time there's a problem, Cheney and his yahoos loose the report or the transcripts or the memo that shows they screwed the pooch. Yay Democracy! | |
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| Re: Just Blame Clinton.... You should not be so quick to blame the new party in power, especially since the old one who among many things gave us a $4 trillion pile of I.O.U.s called the social security trust fund (they spent all of the money that came in and then called social security another tax), put a ku klux klan member in the senate, created bureucracies galore, led the way on segregation and slavery, and so on in the 150 years that they were in power from 1840 to 1990.
One notable example of the trade policies you talk about that was not a Republican idea is NAFTA, which was drafted by the Democrat controlled Senate during President Bush Senior's administration and was ratified during President Clinton's administration with President Clinton signing it. President Bush Senior fought NAFTA tooth and nail during his administration but after his administration, the democrats passed it anyway.
This mess is not something that can be quickly fixed and if you expected a quick fix you are in for a huge disappointment. It will take at least another 50 years to fix all of these problems, mostly because they were created during the 60 years from 1930 to 1990. | |
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join:2005-12-08
San Diego, CA
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| Funny, but isn't it this Administration that refuses to include the cost of the Iraq mess in any budget. That they base all their Federall income numbers on the OMB data but refuse to use the same number sets when calculating debt and expenditrues. How much is your child going to pay for the NEO-CON war on a country that was no threat to the United States BEFORE we invaded (*who knows now since we are letting a secular country turn into an Islamic state).
Where's the 4.8 BILLION in cash that can't be accounted for in Iraq because there was no oversight. Why was every appointee in the Iraqi Provisional Authority a Political Hack without experience or qualifications other than they had the right political views? How did that work out? Why did they refuse to use the State Department's plans for running an occupied country? Why did they refuse outside help from Germany and France and NATO after it was clear we didn't have enough troops to quell the unrest and early insurgency? They didn't want to share what they saw as booty to be gotten. Plus look at the contracts.... Ohhh boy... Don't look you might get sick if you actually knew how they got them and how much we pay for little or nothing.
Which party changes the rules of the Senate and House to remove any power of the opposition? Simple, the Republican Party. And those events are happening now. Which President states that he violated the Constitution in the name of national security? Forget the fact that the laws of our country may have been broken by the President (and I'm talking about real laws, not lying about sex). Where's the party in power with the responsibility of checking the overreaching of the President? How can they fail to act on personal statements that make it clear that the President is engaged in unlawful activites?
If anyone raises questions over these actions, they are called unpatriotic or working to help the enemies of our country. Well, that's just how the the National Socialists did it in Germany. If you say anything that doesn't follow our views, you are clearly an enemy of the country.
And When the minority party actually tries to do something about it (rare as it might be), the Majority leadership turns off the microphones and declares the meetings over, something against clearly Congressional rules. That is happening NOW. TODAY. And this is YOUR government. Not Russia, not in some backwater blip on the map. It's happening HERE in the United States, and it's just wrong.
Who else in the Republican Congress has been selling influence? Check out Randy "Duke" Cunningham's menu of services. Why is Bohner now back in power? Wasn't he the guy handing out Tobacco Checks on the House Floor to those voting "nay" during a vote that would have hurt Tobacco companies? Wake up AnoymousPerson. . . who is likely some guy paid to defend the Bush Admin. -- Yes, your Taxes -- the Bush Administration admits to 1.4 Billion worth -- went to pay for media ads and PR to support their policies. Shouldn't good policy need little or no PR and advertising?
Stop blaming Clinton, he's not been president for over half a decade. It's this President that sucks, it's his policy that is bad, and it's his group that is screwing you and I. Open your eyes. Stop worrying about the past and look at what's happening now!
Don't let your hate for Clinton blind you to the fact that this President is screwing more than an intern, he's screwing you, me, and our country. | |
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join:2005-12-03
300067 | Money and politics If no one took money to be elected we would have no elections.
Yet it is a conflict of interest to take money from governed groups to get elected. Anyone with a solution that works is welcome to promote it. Ears will hear. | |
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| AT&T is a joke AT&T couldn't buy themselves out of a paper bag right now.. and the way things are going for them,,, they may be the next enrOn or MCI till of the hun telco to file for bankrupcy.. it will take time for the merger to work its way into the Time-Warner/Aol debacle stange, but its coming.. what would have been better, was to buy their way back into last mile ***without an rboc*** Yes it would take decades and trillions of dollars, but the profits (or loss) would be 100% theirs for the making or losing, and they are now stuck with terminal conflicts of interest in their buildout. | |
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