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DaMaGeINC
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tad2020
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Orange, CA | Re: ddwrt That's what I use. Works great. DDWRT is fine if you've got a router that it supports, but pFsense only needs a old unused PC. | |
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| Re: ddwrt said by Cjaiceman  :If you have an old PC pfsense is the way to do it. I use an old Gateway Performance 1300 P4 @ 1.3GHz 384MB RDRAM 20GB HDD 2x Gigabit Linksys 1032 PCI I am on the Business account, so the 250GB cap doesn't apply (from what I've heard). But running a PC 24/7 cost too much
my router uses less then 10 watts
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tad2020
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Orange, CA | Re: ddwrt I'm using one of these and it's only using about 30-50 watts under its 5% load. | |
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Davie, FL | Re: ddwrt That's $40 - $50 a year in electricity costs if you keep it running 24/7. | |
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tad2020
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Orange, CA | Re: ddwrt It at my office and I do more with it than just simple NAT routing, its setup as a multi-wan service gateway and DNS. | |
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Cjaiceman
join:2004-10-12
Aurora, CO
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| Re: ddwrt said by TheMG :said by punker :yourPC uses 250 to 300 watts Yeah right. A gaming system under full load uses this much. An old PC being used as a router would only use a fraction of that. Actually.... hehe... my gaming PC w/ 2 22" LCD monitors use that at idle... while gaming its about 510-515 watts... 
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tad2020
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Orange, CA | Re: ddwrt pFsense is based off m0n0wall, except m0n0wall doesn't support multi-wan still I think. | |
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Franklin, TN | Re: ddwrt How many customers have two cable modems going to the same router?  | |
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Orange, CA | Re: ddwrt If it's for your business, you might. | |
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KevNYC
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| Re: ddwrt said by tad2020 :If it's for your business, you might. The cap doesn't apply to business class users, so pretty pointless. | |
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Orange, CA | Re: ddwrt If it's a home office and they don't offer business class service to your location or if the price is prohibitive, like TWC. | |
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DaMaGeINC
The Lan Man
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metrodust
Hey Thats Mine
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Seattle, WA
| said by knightmb :How many customers have two cable modems going to the same router? i do. speakeasy DSL and comcast cable..
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Richard B
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Portland, OR | The problem is you have to have the right type of router. I prefer not to re flash mine, as the old saying goes, if it ain't broke don't fix it. | |
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punker
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clubs: | Re: ddwrt netmeter does not work as they count LAN traffic | |
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Dogfather
Altitude is your friend
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Laguna Hills, CA | Re: ddwrt Yeah, you run NAS or otherwise move or stream files to another machine you're screwed. | |
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Dogfather
Altitude is your friend
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Laguna Hills, CA | Re: ddwrt Luckly so far Cox doesn't seem to enforce their low 40GB cap at all and Verizon couldn't care less. | |
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join:2002-01-01
Gouldsboro, PA
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| said by Dogfather :Yeah, you run NAS or otherwise move or stream files to another machine you're screwed. Are you saying they count the stuff moved around on my own network?
That cant be right... no way that's true.... | |
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tater_gunz
Shoot to kill
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Toledo, OH
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| said by punker :ddwrt I second that (for single households / small businesses). DD-WRT rules!
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jmn1207
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Reston, VA | Tomato will do the job, too. | |
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DaMaGeINC
The Lan Man
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Running Free
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Jamestown, NC
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| Re: ddwrt said by DaMaGeINC :DD-WRT>Tomato Tha depends on what you want to do. I found the QoS implementation in DD-WRT v23 worthless. Tomato is very clean, simple and works well. DD-WRT is definitely more capable if you need to do other "geeky" things though.
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jmn1207
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| said by DaMaGeINC :DD-WRT>Tomato Yes, it has more features and can do more, but Tomato will get the job done for many of us. | |
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DaMaGeINC
The Lan Man
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Greenville, SC
clubs: | Re: ddwrt Simple people then. I need sophisticated software. | |
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jmn1207
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| Re: ddwrt said by DaMaGeINC :Simple people then. I need sophisticated software. I resemble that remark!  | |
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join:2004-10-14
Arlington, VA
| Tomato is amazing. Yes, DD-WRT might have more features, but Tomato still has 10 times as many features as even a power user might need, but with much greater simplicity.
Also, Tomato's bandwidth meter is amazing. Real-time usage graphs, day-by-day breakdown of transfer amounts and neat charts as well. Very impressive. | |
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Kfedka
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Spokane, WA | I use tomato as well, on down side is that if the router powers down(storm, unplugged, etc) then you lose all the transfered amounts  | |
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join:2001-08-30
Riverside, NJ
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| Re: ddwrt said by Kfedka :I use tomato as well, on down side is that if the router powers down(storm, unplugged, etc) then you lose all the transfered amounts You can set up a script to backup this data to either a JFFS, CIFS volume or an FTP site. I choose a FTP site since it doesn't continuously write to the router's flash area nor does it require a PC that's on 24/7.
I have Tomato setup to upload my stats to a ftp server every 12 hours. In the case of a power failure or router reset, the data is fetched so I only lose at most 12 hours of data.
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DaMaGeINC
The Lan Man
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Greenville, SC
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| Lol. On my network. I have monitors on each pc, on the gateway router(pFsense) and on my edge routers(2 of them)(DD-WRT). Thats 3 meters between me and the internet.
I can see how much traffic goes through each internet connection, I can see total internet traffic combined, and total pc traffic on the network. Works great.
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| Re: ddwrt said by DaMaGeINC :Lol. On my network. I have monitors on each pc, on the gateway router(pFsense) and on my edge routers(2 of them)(DD-WRT). Thats 3 meters between me and the internet. I can see how much traffic goes through each internet connection, I can see total internet traffic combined, and total pc traffic on the network. Works great. You should look into a network monitoring system to reduce all that overhead.
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DaMaGeINC
The Lan Man
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clubs: | Re: ddwrt I used to do SNMP monitoring with MRTG. But that program does not like when you change network settings and ip's. You had to reconfig the cfg files to match the new configuration. After a few years, that got annoying. | |
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DaMaGeINC
The Lan Man
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clubs: | Re: ddwrt Your right, but my setup, I need the edge routers. They are both wireless in nature. And the radios are not in the networking closet. | |
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join:2003-08-09
Lake Zurich, IL
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| said by espaeth :If you're running pfSense, why use edge routers at all? Cause he wants to be cool and use terms like "edge router" a lot? | |
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Okeana, OH | Cancel Service If you cancel service and go with somebody else, then you don't need one. | |
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freeze
Magic Murder Bag
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Columbus, OH
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| Running a network? Forget DUmeter My problem with DUMeter and alternatives (at least with the older versions) is that traffic can't be differentiated between LAN or WAN.
This past weekend I transferred at least 500gb on my internal network between 7 PCs replacing my file server. Having to manually disable the DUmeter on all the PCs is a pain. And even then I do a lot of media streaming from my central server which wouldn't be counted against my monthly cap. In addition, having no way to look up the total usage across all computers running DUMeter means I'll have to manually read and add up the monthly totals.
I'm finding the DD-WRT bandwidth option a much better way to go, but even that can be a little limiting.
Are there any other router-based solutions? I've read good things about Tomato's bandwidth monitoring software... | |
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Reston, VA
·Verizon FIOS
| Re: Running a network? Forget DUmeter said by freeze :Are there any other router-based solutions? I've read good things about Tomato's bandwidth monitoring software... I've have not delved too deeply into all the features, but it does show the monthly, weekly, daily, and real time WAN usage. My billing cycle happens to fall on the last day of each month, so I can just check the monthly download/upload log. It seems adequate for spot-checking my monthly usage limits. I was under 15GB for August. | |
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Chiyo
Save Me Konata-Chan
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Minneapolis, MN
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| said by freeze :My problem with DUMeter and alternatives (at least with the older versions) is that traffic can't be differentiated between LAN or WAN. This past weekend I transferred at least 500gb on my internal network between 7 PCs replacing my file server. Having to manually disable the DUmeter on all the PCs is a pain. And even then I do a lot of media streaming from my central server which wouldn't be counted against my monthly cap. In addition, having no way to look up the total usage across all computers running DUMeter means I'll have to manually read and add up the monthly totals. I'm finding the DD-WRT bandwidth option a much better way to go, but even that can be a little limiting. Are there any other router-based solutions? I've read good things about Tomato's bandwidth monitoring software... I'm in the same boat, I don't have a linksys WRT54G and I'm sure as hell not buying one to please Comcast... What to do? My WRV200 with SNMP doesn't even work (thanks linksys) anyway comcast sure as hell better provide something. | |
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dadkins
Merry Whatever
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join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
·Comcast
| DD-WRT, ok... ... doesn'y work with my existing D-Link router though.
So, to get DD-WRT on my line, I have to replace a perfectly working router with a new Linksys router.
Not that I will ever get close to the 250GB cap, but for S&G if I wanted to see actual WAN usage I need to blow ~$70?
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There's a lot of unsolicited traffic you'll never see that gets past the modem but is ignored by the router. It's not going to amount to gigs, but measuring this type of traffic as well will provide you with a 'accurate' calculation of how much Comcast thinks you are using. | |
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Chiyo
Save Me Konata-Chan
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Minneapolis, MN
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| is it too early to sue? I know some people are going to say "all we ever do is sue people in America" but c'mon not providing a tool is common sense stuff.
Do we have to wait until someone goes over and then sue them? I smell a class action if something isn't done by Comcast.
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Suffern, NY
| Re: is it too early to sue? said by Chiyo :I know some people are going to say "all we ever do is sue people in America" but c'mon not providing a tool is common sense stuff. Do we have to wait until someone goes over and then sue them? I smell a class action if something isn't done by Comcast. Since they are going to be charging/limiting you for some claimed usage, they should be providing the numbers that are supposedly being used on a website (whose usage should NOT count towards the usage limit). Otherwise they are not supporting their claims of your usage. For all other "metered" type items, you are given access to the numbers (or the physical meter) that are being used - Why are they refusing to provide these numbers but claiming to have them but saying they are not available for viewing? | |
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N3OGH
Will it all be Obama's fault now?
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Philly burbs | B bbbbbut I thought But I thought Comcast was the BMW to DSL's Yugo?
What's the point of an uber fast Bimmer if they limit the amount of Autobahn you can drive on it?
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swhitney2003
quack.
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Weare, NH | By 30 days, or by month Does anyone know if the amount of bandwidth used is compared against the past 30days, or each month (each month on billing date perhaps?)? | |
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Chiyo
Save Me Konata-Chan
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clubs: | Re: By 30 days, or by month Your billing cycle. | |
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jmn1207
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Reston, VA
·Verizon FIOS
| NebuAd Bandwidth Meter I can just see some 3rd party designing a meter that installs on each computer on a network and communicates it's results to some remote location that can be accesses at any time to see the results.
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The Best Bandwidth Meters For Comcast Customers
Single PC? Netmeter!