said by jc100 :

Now our rights being pissed. NSA wiretapping under Bush. Patriot Act. Military Commissions act denying a trial to anyone Bush rules an enemy combatant (american or foreigner).

said by MacWin :

And I have a wand that keeps Tigers away, how do I know it works, well I've never seen a Tiger around here so there you go it must work.

said by Hehe :

9/11? Only about 3000 people died! Car crashes kill more than 40,000 people every year (more than 3000 every month)! More than 50% of those are alcohol related!

said by jc100 :

There's a huge difference. It's called blaming the REAL ENEMY (IE. Japan) and wrongly pointing the finger at a country who had nothing to do with said attack (IRAQ). Obviously, you failed geography and English to not know that the attackers were 90 Percent Saudi, with the others being from Yemen and Omen.

said by jc100 :

Moon,

Ignorance is bliss bud. First, JAPAN was the focus of WW2. Do you not recall the Atomic Bomb. The first time such device was EVER used in history. Obviously not. WW2 was a World War. Hence, a war on all fronts. Obviously, you skipped WORLD HISTORY. We had FULL SCALE invasions on the Japanese. What naive world are you living in? My grandfather was in that war! I guess he just made up his whole service of being on an air craft carrier attacking the Japanese.... Amazing, people like you still exist.

said by jc100 :

As for the Germans. We attacked them only after our allies were being hammered. A matter of fact, we ignored the war for several years. Hitler had started his campaign in 1937 with the bombing of Guernica. It wasn't until 1941 when Europe was in FULL FLEDGED WAR and our allies needed help did we enter. Obviously, we stuck out of it because it had nothing to do with us in the beginning. However, when we saw our allies needed our help, we did react. Yet, there still lies a difference. GERMANS WERE COMMITTING GENOCIDE! That's something that should NEVER be tolerated.

said by jc100 :

Now, if you would have said we should have entered Iraq in the 1980s when Saddam was, you would have had my full support and I'm sure the worlds. However, to make Saddam a scapegoat for 9/11 twenty years later DOESN'T WORK. SORRY! Obviously, Bush wanted to blame someone for the attacks, and he failed geography when trying to do so. Once again, there were like 17 Saudis and a few from Yemen and Omen. NOT A SINGLE IRAQI. Simply violating the UN resolutions didn't amount to going to war. Guess what, we found nothing when we did enter. Surprise Surprise. I guess he had nothing after all. So my point stands. Two different wars and two different circumstances. The fact of the matter, you need to learn history better, so you don't try to meld the two together like they are the least bit similar.

said by jc100 :

As for Muslims condemning the attacks, you speak for them all? Strange. I do recall several Arab nations condemning 9/11. Egypt is one of our strongest allies as is Saudi Arabia. Then again, when did Christianity Condemn Bosnia? Christian Serbs slaughtered 200,000 Muslims and buried them in mass graves. Please remind me where the church spoke on that. Better yet, Christianity has the Holocaust as Hitler was a Catholic. He used the Church to his benefit when killing the Jews. Let's not forget the Spanish Inquisition where 100s of thousands were slaughtered in the name of Christianity. Best yet, and most famous, the crusades had the Christians Murdering Muslims yet again. Ah yes, good old Christianity and its blood filled past. I don't remember reading too many condemnations by the Church on these acts either. Should I conclude then that all of Christianity supports this barbarity and I have more to fear from them than the Muslims. After all, Christianity has murdered millions in the name of it's religion, too.

said by jc100 :

I WILL TRY ONE LAST TIME with you.

First, Germany never attacked us but they made an official declaration of war after we embargoed them for oil and assets. Hence, after being attacked by Japan just a few days earlier, why the hell WOULD we wait for Germany to decimate Europe further and make it to our soil? Once again, you make connections that don't exist. IRAQ NEVER declared war on the U.S. formally or unofficially. There was NEVER a declaration by Saddam to Attack the U.S. with military might. The only time he ever made threats were when WE ATTACKED HIM. Try getting your history straight. It really isn't going well for you.

said by jc100 :

Second, I know why Germany didn't get the bomb. A large part was them losing their materials but they also lost the war before it was finished. However, that's an aside note. What you STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND is that we used the atomic bomb on Japan to save millions of our soldiers lives. Russia had NOTHING to do with us dropping the bomb. The justification for using it was that the amount of troops it would take to secure the Japanese mainland would be in the millions, a high cost seeing we lost so many in Europe. Before you speak further, GOOGLE a reputable site and not some contrived version of history. Russia only went into japan AFTER we dropped the bombs. Neither the U.S. or Russia wanted to enter ground warfare due to the amount of lives that would have been lost.. Who was your history teacher, the Emperor of Japan? You definitely DO NOT know your facts.

said by jc100 :

As for Genocide in Europe, we had reports. Yet, we didn't act swiftly. We knew it was happening, just not to what extent. You can argue what you wish, but obviously, you don't research your statements. Second, we did turn away the Jews and that was a big mistake on our part. Then again, we also interned the Japanese in pseudo concentration camps. Our actions really weren't at their peak back them. However, we did get our ducks in a row. Then again, we had Japan attacking us first and Germany to deal with. I see you stopped making your baseless allegations about Japan being a minor player in the war...

said by jc100 :

Also, I completely noticed you dropped your argument about Christianity. I knew REALITY an ACTUAL facts would put an end to your arguments. So if you wish to claim Muslims are out to get you, then by far Christians are too. Christianity's past is so tainted, one might think the sacrament is the blood of the people they've killed in history and not of Jesus.....

said by jc100 :

Iraq to attack us? They never even hinted at the fact they plan to. Hell, we attacked them first, on two seperate occasions. This latest one didn't even have cuase. Still, why don't we invade Sweden, England, Norway. They MIGHT attack us in the distant future for some reason or another. Let's be pre-emptive. Better yet, let's just go into venezuela and knock out Chavez. He's not willing to share his Oil and has formed agreements with other South American Countries. Damn him to hell. Let's just go invade them as they keep talking too much. While we're at it, how about Cuba? Hell, why not everyone in the world. At some point or another, someone has said bad things against us. Why not just make the world the U.S. confederacy. You know, take over everyone and make them our territories while we at it. We're just so damn good at controlling Iraq (more sarcasm), why dont we bring our joy of destruction to everyone!! GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO USA!!!... Sarcasm aside, what are you smoking? You seriously amaze me.

said by jc100 :

Next topic, do you like repeating me or you really bored? "Look up Operation August Storm and tell me Russia had no plans for Japan. They went in on August 8th. Little Boy was dropped on Hiroshima on the 6th." DIDN'T I say ten times over THAT no one wanted to enter Japan with ground forces, not even Russia. You proceeded to tell me that Russia was going to beat us to the punch. NOW, you state exactly what I stated. RUSSIA only entered AFTER we dropped the bomb. My god man, your history sucks. The bomb ended the war with Japan, and the troops cleaned up the mess on all sides. Russia also Entered Berlin and other areas. What's your point?

said by jc100 :

Charles Taylor - It doesn't matter how you die, just that you are dead. Who gives a flying "F*CK" if the Christians used suicide bombers, guns, or spears. THEY STILL MURDERED MILLIONS IN HISTORY. The end result is the same, they killed people in the name of their religion. So what if it's not by a suicide bomb. Those people are dead. You my friend have just lost any and all my respect. My god. I didn't think people of your caliber still existed, but I guess they do. Do me a favor, go to someone who has just died and try speaking with them. They don't answer, RIGHT? Why? They are dead, whether it be from a heart attack, cancer, or a gunshot. The results the same. WHO CARES the method used!

said by jc100 :

Last, NO. Every argument I gave cannot apply to Iraq. WHERE did Iraq formally declare war on the U.S. Where was Iraqs involvement in 9/11. Answer those two with some hard facts. You won't find them. Hence, my argument for Germany is FAR DIFFERENT than Iraq. Sanctions do not just give cause to go to war. Actions do. Iraq didn't do anything aggressive towards us. As for the genocide, GET IT THROUGH YOUR THICK SKULL. It was twenty plus years ago. Apparently Regan and Bush didn't care about it. Bush entered to save Kuwait, not to depose Saddam for Genocide. So to use that as an argument for today's war is not even valid. GROW UP!

said by jc100 :

Mindless rantings.

said by jc100 :

You are completely a HOPELESS cause. FIRST, wake up from your delusion. I NEVER CLAIMED unanimous voting on the Patriot Act. Go find where I stated this. On the complete contrast, I SAID ALMOST all Republicans voted for it and around 62-66 voted no. I never once made the allegation you mention. I vehemently stated that those Democrats not in the 62-66 should be OUSTERED. READ CAREFULLY AND NOT WHAT YOU WISH TO SEE. Hence, FACTS aren't in your dictionary are they? Do you make up things as you go. Time and Time again I've caught your fallacies.

said by jc100 :

As for the FBI, they are abusing their power because we are letting them. By removing the courts and checks and balances, we have given them the right to do whatever they wish with no oversight. PLAIN AND SIMPLE. The same for the NSA. The only thing we have to fear is fear itself when we unilaterally hand away our rights to one entity, and expect them not to go above and beyond their call of duty. It's dangerous to give such power to one person, but you'll never see this once again. To the point the Democrats aren't acting, they have LIMITED the Patriot Act and put stipulations. It's more than the Republicans did with their rubber stamps. SOmething is better than nothing at this point. Id rather have some gains than more losses. STill, the whole damn document needs to be repealed.

said by jc100 :

On Christian / Muslim Genocide, Muslims aren't even close. Please name me 7 million people Muslims have killed since 1940. Hitler, sponsored by the Methodist and Catholic Church exterminated 6 million. The Bosnian Serbs killed 1-200,000. Let's not forget the wars started by Christian Missionaries FORCING their beliefs onto people in Africa. We all know how much of a mess that place is in some countries. Good old colonialism, favoritism, and forced religion have mucked that place up. So by far, Christians drinking the sacrament are slurping the blood of those who they have killed. OF which includes people who have refused to convert (Inquisition and such). However, believe what you wish. Either way, bad behavior and murder isn't justified but take your IGNORANCE and STUPIDITY elsewhere. It wasn't but ten years ago the Serbs MURDERED those 100-200,000 Muslims and dropped them in mass graves. War Crime Trials are still taking place for those.

said by jc100 :

And yet...

In the house, you will see 64 voted no. Only 3 Republicans. Hence, I do blame democrats, but not all. On the other hand, the Republicans voted unanimously to piss away your rights. At least 66 democrats between the house and senate spoke their mind. It's more than the opposite party did.

I am steadfast right by saying ALMOST UNANIMOUS. So while you might have corrected me on saying 1 or whatever, I WAS NOT FAR OFF. So the point stands. THREE REPUBLICANS and 61 DEMOCRATS. Thats 20X times the Republicans. POINT AND MATCH.!

said by jc100 :

Um they aren't crying. They are CONTINUING to try and pass bills.

said by jc100 :

And I responded to Lessop. I suggest you read my reply. Obviously, your bigoted mentality won't change, but give it a read anyway. In the mean time, should I consider you a Terrorist. My guess, you are Christian. Your Brotheren have MURDERED around 7 million people in this past century! i guess that qualifies you as one, since you are grouping all Muslims in the same boat.

said by jc100 :

An overstatement is not an inaccuracy. Its simply an overstatement. It doesn't make my point any less valid that three Republicans versus 64 Democrats voted against it. Tit for tatt. You sound like a baby whining on semantics. Either way, MOST OF THE REPUBLICANS, voted to STRIP AMERICANS of our rights. IE. Republicans obviously do not Cherish America. What happened to small government. We have more to fear from the Republican Right and A Sizeable portion of Democrats voting for this Molarchy than we do the terrorists. It's the Republican right who have sold our rights away on a fictitious sense that terrorists are out to get us, just like the big bad boogy man.

said by jc100 :

That's because the Republicans aren't letting legislation pass. More or less the hatred for Republicans put the Democrats in office. Unfortunately, those stay the course Republicans would rather see our boys die, than come up with a real plan. They had four years of TOTAL control to do so. Guess what, they offered us NOTHING but more problems and heartaches. America is FED UP NOTHING is being accomplished. It's by no fault of the Democrats now who are trying, but having their plans rejected by the IGNORANCE of the Republican Party not wanting a solution.

said by jc100 :

As for LESSOP. I thought you meant this post. I'm not going to respond to his timeline. You can tell me what you wish, but that timeline doesn't prove much at all. Muslims havent murdered around 10 million people historically.

Millions of Muslims dead during the Crusades.

Millions dead during the Spanish Inquisition. That same rhetoric you're tossing out now. Convert or Die.

said by jc100 :

Six million Dead During the Holocaust. Hitler, the Methodist, and Catholic Church Per perpetrated this.

Last, but not least, 100-200,000 Dead to to Christians in Bosnia.

So TERRORIST, which mantra do you follow? A hatred for your