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story category T-Mobile G1: 1GB Monthly Cap?
New $25, $35 plans come with some fine print
01:06PM Tuesday Sep 23 2008 by Karl Bode
tags: business · wireless · hardware · Google · T-Mobile US
The T-Mobile HTC G1 (aka Dream) unveiling this morning disclosed the few details that hadn't been leaked already -- namely the phone price-tag and these rumored new T-Mobile data plans. While presenting on rollerskates, the Google/T-Mobile union unveiled that the G1 will be sold at a price point of $179, assuming you're willing to sign up for a two year contract and accept a serious bit of fine print. The new data plans (which require phone plans) made just for the G1: $25 for "unlimited" web & some text messages (not defined yet, but likely 200) or $35 with "unlimited" data and messaging.

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Like the iPhone, there will be no (official) tethering of the unit for use as a modem. There's also no Exchange support. Like the iPhone, T-Mobile and Google have developed an application store, but there's no approval process for applications, which could be good or bad depending on the quality of the finished product.

The G1 is cheaper than the iPhone at a two-year contract subsidized price of $179, has a fully retractable keyboard, and it looks like SMS bundling is slightly less expensive than Apple and AT&T's offering. Still, the lack of a rabid cult following aside, the G1 is not going to dethrone the Apple iPhone for some very obvious reasons. The biggest one? It's the network, stupid.

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For one, the phone is on the smallest of all 3G networks. T-Mobile insists that they'll have HSDPA up and running in twenty one markets by mid-october when the phone officially launches -- and twenty seven markets by year's end. AT&T got a pretty sound beating for releasing the iPhone 3G with more than 200 HSDPA-enabled markets.

Unlike AT&T, which sells the phone in EDGE and HSDPA markets alike, T-Mobile won't won't sell the G1 at stores outside a 2-5 mile radius of their 3G coverage area. Pure EDGE customers can sign up if the slow speeds don't annoy them. On top of limited 3G deployment, users also need to note that once again, the use of the word "unlimited" in this industry means anything but. From the fine print on the T-Mobile website:
If your total data usage in any billing cycle is more than 1GB, your data throughput for the remainder of that cycle may be reduced to 50 kbps or less. Your data session, plan, or service may be suspended, terminated, or restricted for significant roaming or if you use your service in a way that interferes with our network or ability to provide quality service to other users
Just so we have this straight: not only will the majority of T-Mobile customers be relegated to slower EDGE speeds (200kbps if you're lucky), you'll find your service throttled back to 50kbps (or less) should you consume more than 1GB per month. Once again, we're witnessing a next-generation phone hoisted upon a last-generation wireless network and business mentality.

Some additional details for those interested: a 3.17" 65K color touchscreen running at HVGA (480×320) resolution; 3.1MP camera; 5.6 ounces; 4.60” x 2.16” x 0.62”; 5 hours of talk time (130 hours of standby); requires GMail account; Syncs with all Google apps; push Gmail; preloaded with Amazon's music store; GSM/GPRS/EDGE/Wi-Fi and UMTS/HSDPA.

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1GIG/month cap will sink Android

1gig a month is a ridiculously low limit. I am a huge TMO fan, been a loyal customer for 7 years. But 1 gig per month is absurd. I am already thinking about jumping ship to another carrier.

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said by kwayzcat See Profile :

1gig a month is a ridiculously low limit. I am a huge TMO fan, been a loyal customer for 7 years. But 1 gig per month is absurd. I am already thinking about jumping ship to another carrier.
Yes. I saw that buried in the fine print. If you exceed 1 GB in a billing period, you won't be shut off, but your speed will be cut back to 50 kbps for the rest of the billing period.

»www.t-mobileg1.com/g1-learn-feat···ils.aspx
Data: If your total data usage in any billing cycle is more than 1GB, your data throughput for the remainder of that cycle may be reduced to 50 kbps or less. Your data session, plan, or service may be suspended, terminated, or restricted for significant roaming or if you use your service in a way that interferes with our network or ability to provide quality service to other users.

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Re: 1GIG/month cap will sink Android

Considering all of the features this thing has (push Gmail, Maps integration...including compass mode!, and all of the sync) that is to low to even imagine as being worth it. T-mo really needs to rethink this limit. At least raise it to the standard 5GB.
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said by DaSneaky1D See Profile :

Considering all of the features this thing has (push Gmail, Maps integration...including compass mode!, and all of the sync) that is to low to even imagine as being worth it. T-mo really needs to rethink this limit. At least raise it to the standard 5GB.
You'd be surprised. My always-on Moto Q9c with Exchange push support only uses 10MB-15MB per month. And I get a boatload of email each day.
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Re: 1GIG/month cap will sink Android

Whereas I've hit 1GB/month on several occasions on my HTC Mogul. To be fair, though, I do use it as a hotspot every once in awhile, but sometimes that's only to get an iPod touch or non-data-enabled iPhone online.

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said by kwayzcat See Profile :

1gig a month is a ridiculously low limit. I am a huge TMO fan, been a loyal customer for 7 years. But 1 gig per month is absurd. I am already thinking about jumping ship to another carrier.
This is the only argument against this phone that really matters. T-mobile is clearly focusing this towards a younger population, NOT the corporate audience. If you want a corporate-friendly touch phone (i.e. Exchange support), buy the Wing.

Seems like too many people want the best of both worlds: A toy that is acceptable at the office. That's not the way T-mobile works.

Now, what I do like about this is the preloaded Amazon music store. What I don't like is the fact that all of those cool apps nearly require 3G to function properly, which T-mobile has not rolled out sufficiently. As well, there are no clear answers as to such simple things as:

- Ability to load my own MP3s unhindered
- Ability to use any MP3 or WAV as a ringtone
- Ability to run custom apps
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I am forced to agree, I didn't think it was possible, but T-Mobile has actually made AT&T look a little better with this stunt. First, AT&T offers an unlimited plan with the iPhone that is really unlimited (tethering prohibited of course, so its a safe gamble) - their tether data plans at least allow for 5 GB. T-Mobile makes the same mistake that got other carriers repeatedly spanked by now advertising an "unlimited" plan that is not in fact unlimited and their version of a cap is 1 GB? I know they add the disclaimer in the microprint at the bottom, but I seriously doubt that is going to stop them from getting spanked.

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said by kwayzcat See Profile :

1gig a month is a ridiculously low limit. I am a huge TMO fan, been a loyal customer for 7 years. But 1 gig per month is absurd. I am already thinking about jumping ship to another carrier.
I like to listen to Pandora on the iPhone while at work. I am in a 3G area, and Pandora used almost exactly 30MB. IF I did that for 5 hours a day per se, that would really add up.
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so use the wifi when you are at work

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said by joejoecom :

so use the wifi when you are at work
If I had access to a wifi network just for streaming I would. But that's why I have a 3g signal. My point is that would eat through the 1 gig cap soon.

1 gig = bad.
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said by ptrowski See Profile :

... I like to listen to Pandora on the iPhone ...
Wow! Thanks.... just discovered pandora. NEAT iPhone app!
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said by ptrowski See Profile :

... I like to listen to Pandora on the iPhone ...
Wow! Thanks.... just discovered pandora. NEAT iPhone app!
Pandora is AWESOME. I have already found 5-6 new bands I never knew about.

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said by ptrowski See Profile :

... Pandora is AWESOME.
Indeed! best, it's not umbilicaled to itunes!!! My biggest iPhone BEEF.

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said by ptrowski See Profile :

... Pandora is AWESOME.
Indeed! best, it's not umbilicaled to itunes!!! My biggest iPhone BEEF.
Yep...I was out mowing the lawn listening to a Dave Matthews channel over my wifi connection. Good times!

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said by TamaraB See Profile :

said by ptrowski See Profile :

... Pandora is AWESOME.
Indeed! best, it's not umbilicaled to itunes!!! My biggest iPhone BEEF.
Yep...I was out mowing the lawn listening to a Dave Matthews channel over my wifi connection. Good times!
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Wifi? 1GB cap and no wifi is ridiculous.

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said by Count Zero See Profile :

Wifi? 1GB cap and no wifi is ridiculous.
It has wifi....
GSM/GPRS/EDGE/Wi-Fi and UMTS/HSDPA.
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Re: 1GIG/month cap will sink Android

Guess being on call and in the hospital for 35hrs makes one less able to read

Glad to hear it has wifi in it, if T-Mo gave you 1GBs per month and no way to not use their network it would be heinous!

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said by Count Zero See Profile :

Guess being on call and in the hospital for 35hrs makes one less able to read

Glad to hear it has wifi in it, if T-Mo gave you 1GBs per month and no way to not use their network it would be heinous!
This post doesn't give me a lot of faith in hospitals. Unless your saying 35 hrs a week at work is unbareable?

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35hrs straight.

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said by kwayzcat See Profile :

1gig a month is a ridiculously low limit. I am a huge TMO fan, been a loyal customer for 7 years. But 1 gig per month is absurd. I am already thinking about jumping ship to another carrier.
Wow, same here. I was really looking forward to this phone and as a T-Mobile customer I thought it would be a no brainer. I will be looking for new phones/plans for my whole family very soon and if the 1GB cap is true, Ill have to look elsewhere.
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Re: 1GIG/month cap will sink Android

I have been a customer since 2001 and I've brought no less than 10 lines to T-Mobile by talking to my family members. I am the techie of the family, 27 years old and an engineer. Everyone listens to me when it comes to anything technology. And I've never steered them wrong. Lately I've been telling them to wait for TMO 3G, its going to be great. Now this happens? Unless they change it I'm telling people to leave T-Mobile when their contract ends. I'm going to probably tell them to switch to Sprint.

T-Mobile has lost their minds. A 1GB cap is actually offensive. I'm looking at the next carrier that gets android. Sprint here I come, and 10+ lines with me.
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Re: 1GIG/month cap will sink Android

said by kwayzcat See Profile :

I have been a customer since 2001 and I've brought no less than 10 lines to T-Mobile by talking to my family members. I am the techie of the family, 27 years old and an engineer. Everyone listens to me when it comes to anything technology. And I've never steered them wrong. Lately I've been telling them to wait for TMO 3G, its going to be great. Now this happens? Unless they change it I'm telling people to leave T-Mobile when their contract ends. I'm going to probably tell them to switch to Sprint.

T-Mobile has lost their minds. A 1GB cap is actually offensive. I'm looking at the next carrier that gets android. Sprint here I come, and 10+ lines with me.
ATT and Sprint have the best 5GB cap terms, ATT unenforced, Sprint over a 3 month period.

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Re: 1GIG/month cap will sink Android

Sprint 5GB cap is not for mobile phone data plans, it is literally for Phone as a modem plan people aka official tethering people. But as Sprint rep mentioned in their forum if you go beyond couple of GBs a month sprint will start flagging ur account as a possible tethering user!

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Use Kinoma Player and you will go over 1 GB in a day!

I have used Kinoma player which streams youtube and tons of podcasts on windows mobile, mine is sprint mogul, I have used about 1 GB on a single day. On a sidenote, I haven't seen many people noticing the fact that G1 cannot download from amazon mp3 store over TMO internet, it can do that only over wifi!!

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Sprint has a 5GB cap on data.

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I'm no fan of the "smart" phone.

I had a Treo 700W for a hot minute. Too big, too bulky, and I sure as shit eat up the data quicker than all get out.

I'll stick with my Razor 2 with the $15/mo Vcast. Sure, I'm stuck in Verizon's walled garden. But, since all I'm interested in is sports scores and the occasional weather report, it's just easier to tote around.
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The batteries on the Treo would probably die before you ate through your data. That is the biggest problem with that bloated piece of sh*t.....er hardware.

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T-Mobile backs off on 1 GB cap, but won't say what they will replace it with.

»news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-100503···1_3-0-20
Here's the full statement:

"Our goal, when the T-Mobile G1 becomes available in October, is to provide affordable, high-speed data service allowing customers to experience the full data capabilities of the device and our 3G network. At the same time, we have a responsibility to provide the best network experience for all of our customers so we reserve the right to temporarily reduce data throughput for a small fraction of our customers who have excessive or disproportionate usage that interferes with our network performance or our ability to provide quality service to all of our customers.

We removed the 1GB soft limit from our policy statement, and we are confident that T-Mobile G1 customers will enjoy the high speed of data access over our 3G network. The specific terms for our new data plans are still being reviewed and once they are final we will be certain to share this broadly with current customers and potential new customers."

That sounds to me like T-Mobile hasn't given up on the idea of a soft cap altogether, but has decided that 1GB is perhaps a little too stingy. Which it is.

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edit:
September 23rd, @12:40PM

More details and links

And here is the web page T-Mobile has set up for the launch:

»www.t-mobileg1.com/


Here is the press release by HTC on today's G1 Android phone:

»www.htc.com/www/press.aspx?id=66···ang=1033

With built-in support for T-Mobile’s 3G and EDGE network as well as Wi-Fi

available at select T-Mobile retail stores and online in the U.S. beginning Oct. 22, for a price of $179 with a two-year voice and data agreement.

includes the popular Google products that millions have enjoyed on the desktop, including Google Maps Street View™, Gmail™, YouTube™
and others.

Google Maps feature syncs with the built-in compass on the phone — an industry first — to allow users to view locations and navigate 360 degrees by simply moving the phone with their hand.

It combines Instant Messaging support for Google Talk™, as well as AOL®, Yahoo! Messenger ® and Windows Live Messenger in the U.S. With access to high-speed Web browsing and a 3-megapixel camera with photo-sharing capabilities,

T-Mobile G1 comes pre-loaded with a new application developed by Amazon.com that gives customers easy access to Amazon MP3, Amazon.com’s digital music download store with more than 6 million DRM-free MP3 tracks. Using the new application, T-Mobile G1 customers are able to search, sample, purchase and download music from Amazon MP3 directly to their device

Cheapest 2 yr voice plan is 300 minutes; unlimited weekends for $30/mo. »www.t-mobile.com/shop/plans/cell···al-Basic

The G1 data plans are as follows:
»www.t-mobileg1.com/g1-learn-faqs-phone.aspx
What types of plans are available for the T-Mobile G1?
Once you’ve selected a specific T-Mobile voice plan, you must also choose a data plan in order for your G1™ to work. You can choose from a data plan that offers 400 messages and unlimited data access for $25 a month—or add unlimited messaging for just $10 more a month.
So, combined, it looks like cheapest is $55 & $65/mo, depending on which data plan you chose. Of course, you would have to add on all the usual fees, taxes, USF, etc that add about $15 more to the bottom line.
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no exchange support???

deal breaker. now an expensive toy like iphone was pre 2.0. seriously how can you launch a device like this with no connectivity to corporate email?
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Re: no exchange support???

This isn't an Iphone or a Sidekick for kids, its professional looking. Beats me.
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No exchange support?

That really is too bad. I was amped for this phone, but without Exchange support I simply can't justify getting one.

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Fugly

Like I said in an earlier thread, that home screen is atrocious. It looks like a bad mashup of Google Gadgets and iGoogle. Even the phone looks like it was culled from an early 90's electronics stack. What's with the MicroTac looking greyish-black plastic and early 80's buttons?

Yuck. No wonder they only released this on the smallish T-Mobile.
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Hmmmm.....

Well it is already more expensive than a T-Mobile Sidekick internet/messaging plan ($20 vs $35.)

Let's look at similar plans:

ATT single plan 450 minutes, unlimited email/web, visual voicemail, and rollover: $69.99
Add unlimited texting: $20

$89.99/month

T-Mobile

My Faves 300: $39.99/month
(Sidekick unlimited email/text $20.00)
(using DASH phone unlimted web/email $19.99/month, unlimted texts $14.99/month)

$59.99/month using a sidekick, $74.97/month for a Dash

G1

My Faves 300: $39.99/month
unlimted text/web/email $35/month

$74.99/month

Competitive.

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Re: Hmmmm.....

said by moonpuppy See Profile :

Well it is already more expensive than a T-Mobile Sidekick internet/messaging plan ($20 vs $35.)

Let's look at similar plans:

ATT single plan 450 minutes, unlimited email/web, visual voicemail, and rollover: $69.99
Add unlimited texting: $20

$89.99/month

T-Mobile

My Faves 300: $39.99/month
(Sidekick unlimited email/text $20.00)
(using DASH phone unlimted web/email $19.99/month, unlimted texts $14.99/month)

$59.99/month using a sidekick, $74.97/month for a Dash

G1

My Faves 300: $39.99/month
unlimted text/web/email $35/month

$74.99/month

Competitive.
Except when you hit 1GB you go back to slower-than-dialup level.
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Another "Me Too" product

Too bad they chose the wrong carrier.

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said by ninjatutle See Profile :

Too bad they chose the wrong carrier.
Yeah, but at the same time they chose the right carrier considering the fact that T-mobile has alot more "Gotta have the newest, best stuff so I look cool" young customers compared to other carriers as it definetly doesn't seem business focused...

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Re: Another "Me Too" product

3G is where its at now. They ain't got it. Young peeps want the latest and fastest.

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said by ninjatutle See Profile :

3G is where its at now. They ain't got it. Young peeps want the latest and fastest.
Well in that case it was designed with whoever wants it in mind... Cause it doesn't seem that it is for anyone in particular then

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How to screw up a phone launch 101:

1) GSM
2) TMobile
3) 1GB Cap

Next.....

For a German company, the US divsion needs some serious input from Das Vaterland.

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Pfft

T-Mobile......they have never done any upgrade from my point of view. I was with them until my contract ended and they never once had service that worked in my office. I jumped ship to Verizon to at least have service everywhere.

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TMO was always and still is pathetic...

...when it comes to data service. I remember when they kept lying to me 2-3 years ago that they very soon will launch their 3G service - suuuuure, it still has yet to be launched nationwide, let alone the terms of this truly pathetic, shitty-crappy limited TMO data service now.

We can now safely say that TMO IS THE WORST POSSIBLE CHOICE FOR MOBILE INTERNET, PERIOD.
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Re: TMO was always and still is pathetic...

I like my 300 Kbps EDGE (in Atlanta), good customer service (never had a problem), good coverage (where I drive to in this country), cheap roaming to Canada (important to me.. 49c/min vs 69c/min or more at other carriers), and REALLY good prices:

1000 minutes, 2 lines, My Faves - $60
400 Messages (Text, Picture) - $5
Unlimited Blackberry Service - $20 ($15/mo less than everyone else)

Total Cost: $85

Closest AT&T plan in price(other carriers available in Atlanta with national roaming are similar):

550 Minutes, 2 lines - $60
200 Messages - $5
Unlimited Blackberry Service - $35

Total Cost: $100($15/mo), and you get half the messages and a little over half the minutes, and that's not with MyFaves to offset the per-minute usage.
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Re: TMO was always and still is pathetic...

Exactly....you're in Atlanta. You leave Atlanta and you will have a hard time finding a signal.
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Re: TMO was always and still is pathetic...

To be honest, the one place I have a hard time getting a signal at is on I-85 from I-985 until you get to the Suncom service area (read: the areas that T-Mobile roams on AT&T.. so its really poor AT&T coverage).

I get a really good signal in TN (thanks to AT&T), and also KY, OH, MI, IL, FL, Atlanta, IN, IA (thanks to i-wireless), MN, and the parts of ND i have visited.

fuziwuzi
Not born yesterday

join:2005-07-01
Atlanta, GA
·Comcast

said by CSU See Profile :

Exactly....you're in Atlanta. You leave Atlanta and you will have a hard time finding a signal.
I've never had a problem getting a signal most anywhere I've traveled. Typically, when I'm away with some friends, it is my phone that has a signal while they (on Sprint or Verizon) are dropping calls and getting very poor signals. Also, when I go to Europe or Asia, I can purchase a pre-paid SIM at the airport and simply use my phone wherever I am without paying roaming charges.

If I didn't get good service, I would change carriers, which I did when I dropped Sprint after only 8 months. I've been with T-Mobile over 2 years now and have no plans to change.
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Brian D

@curran-connors.com

Good work!

Glad to see someone doing their homework. Too many of the usual suspects are just parroting the "unlimited" language without reading the blatantly obvious information on the G1 website. Good work, and I'm glad to see someone other than me remembers how to read fine print.

Authority
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join:2000-03-29
Beverly Hills, CA

No UMA is a deal breaker for me ;(

UMA is to me the distinguishing feature for T-Mobile over all others... and they didn't include it. Bad move?
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me2000
Obama-Biden 2008

join:2003-06-23
Normal, IL

It's ugly...

The phone is ugly and the user interface doesn't look as simple as the iPhone's.

The only good thing it has that's better than the iPhone is the physical keyboard.

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