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join:2002-10-22 Chicago, IL | 1GIG/month cap will sink Android 1gig a month is a ridiculously low limit. I am a huge TMO fan, been a loyal customer for 7 years. But 1 gig per month is absurd. I am already thinking about jumping ship to another carrier. | |
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| Re: 1GIG/month cap will sink Android said by kwayzcat :1gig a month is a ridiculously low limit. I am a huge TMO fan, been a loyal customer for 7 years. But 1 gig per month is absurd. I am already thinking about jumping ship to another carrier. Yes. I saw that buried in the fine print. If you exceed 1 GB in a billing period, you won't be shut off, but your speed will be cut back to 50 kbps for the rest of the billing period.
»www.t-mobileg1.com/g1-learn-feat···ils.aspx
Data: If your total data usage in any billing cycle is more than 1GB, your data throughput for the remainder of that cycle may be reduced to 50 kbps or less. Your data session, plan, or service may be suspended, terminated, or restricted for significant roaming or if you use your service in a way that interferes with our network or ability to provide quality service to other users. -- My BLOG .. .. Internet News .. .. My Web Page Ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel lucky?' Well, do ya punk? | |
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| Re: 1GIG/month cap will sink Android Considering all of the features this thing has (push Gmail, Maps integration...including compass mode!, and all of the sync) that is to low to even imagine as being worth it. T-mo really needs to rethink this limit. At least raise it to the standard 5GB. -- :: my trivial ramblings :: | |
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| Re: 1GIG/month cap will sink Android said by DaSneaky1D :Considering all of the features this thing has (push Gmail, Maps integration...including compass mode!, and all of the sync) that is to low to even imagine as being worth it. T-mo really needs to rethink this limit. At least raise it to the standard 5GB. You'd be surprised. My always-on Moto Q9c with Exchange push support only uses 10MB-15MB per month. And I get a boatload of email each day. -- Linux Haters Unite! | |
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join:2007-02-19 Fredericksburg, TX | Re: 1GIG/month cap will sink Android Whereas I've hit 1GB/month on several occasions on my HTC Mogul. To be fair, though, I do use it as a hotspot every once in awhile, but sometimes that's only to get an iPod touch or non-data-enabled iPhone online. | |
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| said by kwayzcat :1gig a month is a ridiculously low limit. I am a huge TMO fan, been a loyal customer for 7 years. But 1 gig per month is absurd. I am already thinking about jumping ship to another carrier. This is the only argument against this phone that really matters. T-mobile is clearly focusing this towards a younger population, NOT the corporate audience. If you want a corporate-friendly touch phone (i.e. Exchange support), buy the Wing.
Seems like too many people want the best of both worlds: A toy that is acceptable at the office. That's not the way T-mobile works.
Now, what I do like about this is the preloaded Amazon music store. What I don't like is the fact that all of those cool apps nearly require 3G to function properly, which T-mobile has not rolled out sufficiently. As well, there are no clear answers as to such simple things as:
- Ability to load my own MP3s unhindered - Ability to use any MP3 or WAV as a ringtone - Ability to run custom apps | |
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| I am forced to agree, I didn't think it was possible, but T-Mobile has actually made AT&T look a little better with this stunt. First, AT&T offers an unlimited plan with the iPhone that is really unlimited (tethering prohibited of course, so its a safe gamble) - their tether data plans at least allow for 5 GB. T-Mobile makes the same mistake that got other carriers repeatedly spanked by now advertising an "unlimited" plan that is not in fact unlimited and their version of a cap is 1 GB? I know they add the disclaimer in the microprint at the bottom, but I seriously doubt that is going to stop them from getting spanked. | |
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@tsoft.com | Re: 1GIG/month cap will sink Android so use the wifi when you are at work | |
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| Re: 1GIG/month cap will sink Android said by joejoecom :
so use the wifi when you are at work If I had access to a wifi network just for streaming I would. But that's why I have a 3g signal. My point is that would eat through the 1 gig cap soon.
1 gig = bad. -- "A religious war is like children fighting over who has the strongest imaginary friend."
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| said by ptrowski : ... I like to listen to Pandora on the iPhone ... Wow! Thanks.... just discovered pandora. NEAT iPhone app! -- Motor Vessel - Tamara B. 43' Long-Range Trawler Cape Elizebeth ME. See her Here. | |
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| Re: 1GIG/month cap will sink Android said by TamaraB :said by ptrowski : ... I like to listen to Pandora on the iPhone ... Wow! Thanks.... just discovered pandora. NEAT iPhone app! Pandora is AWESOME. I have already found 5-6 new bands I never knew about. | |
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| Re: 1GIG/month cap will sink Android said by ptrowski : ... Pandora is AWESOME. Indeed! best, it's not umbilicaled to itunes!!! My biggest iPhone BEEF. | |
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| Re: 1GIG/month cap will sink Android said by TamaraB :said by ptrowski : ... Pandora is AWESOME. Indeed! best, it's not umbilicaled to itunes!!! My biggest iPhone BEEF. Yep...I was out mowing the lawn listening to a Dave Matthews channel over my wifi connection. Good times! | |
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| Re: 1GIG/month cap will sink Android said by ptrowski :said by TamaraB :said by ptrowski : ... Pandora is AWESOME. Indeed! best, it's not umbilicaled to itunes!!! My biggest iPhone BEEF. Yep...I was out mowing the lawn listening to a Dave Matthews channel over my wifi connection. Good times! Boom de ada, Boom de ada ... -- Linux Haters Unite! | |
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| Re: 1GIG/month cap will sink Android said by Count Zero :Guess being on call and in the hospital for 35hrs makes one less able to read  Glad to hear it has wifi in it, if T-Mo gave you 1GBs per month and no way to not use their network it would be heinous! This post doesn't give me a lot of faith in hospitals. Unless your saying 35 hrs a week at work is unbareable? | |
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| said by kwayzcat :1gig a month is a ridiculously low limit. I am a huge TMO fan, been a loyal customer for 7 years. But 1 gig per month is absurd. I am already thinking about jumping ship to another carrier. Wow, same here. I was really looking forward to this phone and as a T-Mobile customer I thought it would be a no brainer. I will be looking for new phones/plans for my whole family very soon and if the 1GB cap is true, Ill have to look elsewhere. | |
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| Re: 1GIG/month cap will sink Android I have been a customer since 2001 and I've brought no less than 10 lines to T-Mobile by talking to my family members. I am the techie of the family, 27 years old and an engineer. Everyone listens to me when it comes to anything technology. And I've never steered them wrong. Lately I've been telling them to wait for TMO 3G, its going to be great. Now this happens? Unless they change it I'm telling people to leave T-Mobile when their contract ends. I'm going to probably tell them to switch to Sprint.
T-Mobile has lost their minds. A 1GB cap is actually offensive. I'm looking at the next carrier that gets android. Sprint here I come, and 10+ lines with me. | |
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| Re: 1GIG/month cap will sink Android said by kwayzcat :I have been a customer since 2001 and I've brought no less than 10 lines to T-Mobile by talking to my family members. I am the techie of the family, 27 years old and an engineer. Everyone listens to me when it comes to anything technology. And I've never steered them wrong. Lately I've been telling them to wait for TMO 3G, its going to be great. Now this happens? Unless they change it I'm telling people to leave T-Mobile when their contract ends. I'm going to probably tell them to switch to Sprint. T-Mobile has lost their minds. A 1GB cap is actually offensive. I'm looking at the next carrier that gets android. Sprint here I come, and 10+ lines with me. ATT and Sprint have the best 5GB cap terms, ATT unenforced, Sprint over a 3 month period. | |
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| Re: 1GIG/month cap will sink Android Sprint 5GB cap is not for mobile phone data plans, it is literally for Phone as a modem plan people aka official tethering people. But as Sprint rep mentioned in their forum if you go beyond couple of GBs a month sprint will start flagging ur account as a possible tethering user! | |
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| Use Kinoma Player and you will go over 1 GB in a day! I have used Kinoma player which streams youtube and tons of podcasts on windows mobile, mine is sprint mogul, I have used about 1 GB on a single day. On a sidenote, I haven't seen many people noticing the fact that G1 cannot download from amazon mp3 store over TMO internet, it can do that only over wifi!! | |
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Sprint has a 5GB cap on data. | |
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| I'm no fan of the "smart" phone.
I had a Treo 700W for a hot minute. Too big, too bulky, and I sure as shit eat up the data quicker than all get out.
I'll stick with my Razor 2 with the $15/mo Vcast. Sure, I'm stuck in Verizon's walled garden. But, since all I'm interested in is sports scores and the occasional weather report, it's just easier to tote around. -- Petty people are disproportionably corrupted by petty power
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@shawcable.net | Re: 1GIG/month cap will sink Android The batteries on the Treo would probably die before you ate through your data. That is the biggest problem with that bloated piece of sh*t.....er hardware. | |
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| T-Mobile backs off on 1 GB cap, but won't say what they will replace it with.
»news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-100503···1_3-0-20
Here's the full statement:
"Our goal, when the T-Mobile G1 becomes available in October, is to provide affordable, high-speed data service allowing customers to experience the full data capabilities of the device and our 3G network. At the same time, we have a responsibility to provide the best network experience for all of our customers so we reserve the right to temporarily reduce data throughput for a small fraction of our customers who have excessive or disproportionate usage that interferes with our network performance or our ability to provide quality service to all of our customers.
We removed the 1GB soft limit from our policy statement, and we are confident that T-Mobile G1 customers will enjoy the high speed of data access over our 3G network. The specific terms for our new data plans are still being reviewed and once they are final we will be certain to share this broadly with current customers and potential new customers."
That sounds to me like T-Mobile hasn't given up on the idea of a soft cap altogether, but has decided that 1GB is perhaps a little too stingy. Which it is. -- My BLOG .. .. Internet News .. .. My Web Page Ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel lucky?' Well, do ya punk? | |
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| More details and links
And here is the web page T-Mobile has set up for the launch:
»www.t-mobileg1.com/
Here is the press release by HTC on today's G1 Android phone:
»www.htc.com/www/press.aspx?id=66···ang=1033
With built-in support for T-Mobile’s 3G and EDGE network as well as Wi-Fi
available at select T-Mobile retail stores and online in the U.S. beginning Oct. 22, for a price of $179 with a two-year voice and data agreement.
includes the popular Google products that millions have enjoyed on the desktop, including Google Maps Street View™, Gmail™, YouTube™ and others.
Google Maps feature syncs with the built-in compass on the phone — an industry first — to allow users to view locations and navigate 360 degrees by simply moving the phone with their hand.
It combines Instant Messaging support for Google Talk™, as well as AOL®, Yahoo! Messenger ® and Windows Live Messenger in the U.S. With access to high-speed Web browsing and a 3-megapixel camera with photo-sharing capabilities,
T-Mobile G1 comes pre-loaded with a new application developed by Amazon.com that gives customers easy access to Amazon MP3, Amazon.com’s digital music download store with more than 6 million DRM-free MP3 tracks. Using the new application, T-Mobile G1 customers are able to search, sample, purchase and download music from Amazon MP3 directly to their device
Cheapest 2 yr voice plan is 300 minutes; unlimited weekends for $30/mo. »www.t-mobile.com/shop/plans/cell···al-Basic
The G1 data plans are as follows: »www.t-mobileg1.com/g1-learn-faqs-phone.aspx
What types of plans are available for the T-Mobile G1? Once you’ve selected a specific T-Mobile voice plan, you must also choose a data plan in order for your G1™ to work. You can choose from a data plan that offers 400 messages and unlimited data access for $25 a month—or add unlimited messaging for just $10 more a month.
So, combined, it looks like cheapest is $55 & $65/mo, depending on which data plan you chose. Of course, you would have to add on all the usual fees, taxes, USF, etc that add about $15 more to the bottom line. -- My BLOG .. .. Internet News .. .. My Web Page Ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel lucky?' Well, do ya punk? | |
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join:2003-08-11 Hilliard, OH | no exchange support??? deal breaker. now an expensive toy like iphone was pre 2.0. seriously how can you launch a device like this with no connectivity to corporate email? | |
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join:2002-04-05 Jamaica, NY | Re: no exchange support??? This isn't an Iphone or a Sidekick for kids, its professional looking. Beats me. | |
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join:2002-05-01 Saint Paul, MN | No exchange support? That really is too bad. I was amped for this phone, but without Exchange support I simply can't justify getting one. | |
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| Hmmmm..... Well it is already more expensive than a T-Mobile Sidekick internet/messaging plan ($20 vs $35.)
Let's look at similar plans:
ATT single plan 450 minutes, unlimited email/web, visual voicemail, and rollover: $69.99 Add unlimited texting: $20
$89.99/month
T-Mobile
My Faves 300: $39.99/month (Sidekick unlimited email/text $20.00) (using DASH phone unlimted web/email $19.99/month, unlimted texts $14.99/month)
$59.99/month using a sidekick, $74.97/month for a Dash
G1
My Faves 300: $39.99/month unlimted text/web/email $35/month
$74.99/month
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| Re: Hmmmm..... said by moonpuppy :Well it is already more expensive than a T-Mobile Sidekick internet/messaging plan ($20 vs $35.) Let's look at similar plans: ATT single plan 450 minutes, unlimited email/web, visual voicemail, and rollover: $69.99 Add unlimited texting: $20 $89.99/month T-Mobile My Faves 300: $39.99/month (Sidekick unlimited email/text $20.00) (using DASH phone unlimted web/email $19.99/month, unlimted texts $14.99/month) $59.99/month using a sidekick, $74.97/month for a Dash G1 My Faves 300: $39.99/month unlimted text/web/email $35/month $74.99/month Competitive. Except when you hit 1GB you go back to slower-than-dialup level.  -- [BQUOTE=[user=bicker]]Waaaa waaaa waaaa. You just want what you want and don't care to factor in what is right or true. Your perspectives are un-American, and deserve far more ridicule than I'm prepared to pile on them. [/BQUOTE] | |
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join:2006-01-02 San Ramon, CA | Another "Me Too" product Too bad they chose the wrong carrier. | |
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join:2006-01-02 San Ramon, CA | Re: Another "Me Too" product 3G is where its at now. They ain't got it. Young peeps want the latest and fastest. | |
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join:2003-07-29 Mulberry, FL | How to screw up a phone launch 101:
1) GSM 2) TMobile 3) 1GB Cap
Next.....
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join:2002-10-21 Lagrange, GA | Pfft T-Mobile......they have never done any upgrade from my point of view. I was with them until my contract ended and they never once had service that worked in my office. I jumped ship to Verizon to at least have service everywhere. | |
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| TMO was always and still is pathetic... ...when it comes to data service. I remember when they kept lying to me 2-3 years ago that they very soon will launch their 3G service - suuuuure, it still has yet to be launched nationwide, let alone the terms of this truly pathetic, shitty-crappy limited TMO data service now.
We can now safely say that TMO IS THE WORST POSSIBLE CHOICE FOR MOBILE INTERNET, PERIOD. -- [BQUOTE=[user=bicker]]Waaaa waaaa waaaa. You just want what you want and don't care to factor in what is right or true. Your perspectives are un-American, and deserve far more ridicule than I'm prepared to pile on them. [/BQUOTE] | |
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| Re: TMO was always and still is pathetic... I like my 300 Kbps EDGE (in Atlanta), good customer service (never had a problem), good coverage (where I drive to in this country), cheap roaming to Canada (important to me.. 49c/min vs 69c/min or more at other carriers), and REALLY good prices:
1000 minutes, 2 lines, My Faves - $60 400 Messages (Text, Picture) - $5 Unlimited Blackberry Service - $20 ($15/mo less than everyone else)
Total Cost: $85
Closest AT&T plan in price(other carriers available in Atlanta with national roaming are similar):
550 Minutes, 2 lines - $60 200 Messages - $5 Unlimited Blackberry Service - $35
Total Cost: $100($15/mo), and you get half the messages and a little over half the minutes, and that's not with MyFaves to offset the per-minute usage. | |
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join:2002-10-21 Lagrange, GA | Re: TMO was always and still is pathetic... Exactly....you're in Atlanta. You leave Atlanta and you will have a hard time finding a signal. | |
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| Re: TMO was always and still is pathetic... To be honest, the one place I have a hard time getting a signal at is on I-85 from I-985 until you get to the Suncom service area (read: the areas that T-Mobile roams on AT&T.. so its really poor AT&T coverage).
I get a really good signal in TN (thanks to AT&T), and also KY, OH, MI, IL, FL, Atlanta, IN, IA (thanks to i-wireless), MN, and the parts of ND i have visited. | |
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| said by CSU :Exactly....you're in Atlanta. You leave Atlanta and you will have a hard time finding a signal. I've never had a problem getting a signal most anywhere I've traveled. Typically, when I'm away with some friends, it is my phone that has a signal while they (on Sprint or Verizon) are dropping calls and getting very poor signals. Also, when I go to Europe or Asia, I can purchase a pre-paid SIM at the airport and simply use my phone wherever I am without paying roaming charges.
If I didn't get good service, I would change carriers, which I did when I dropped Sprint after only 8 months. I've been with T-Mobile over 2 years now and have no plans to change. -- *************** I think computer viruses should count as life. I think it says something about human nature that the only form of life we have created so far is purely destructive. We've created life in our own image. - Stephen Hawking | |
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join:2000-03-29 Beverly Hills, CA | No UMA is a deal breaker for me ;( UMA is to me the distinguishing feature for T-Mobile over all others... and they didn't include it. Bad move? -- OS X on a PC? Yup! »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OSx86 | |
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join:2003-06-23 Normal, IL | It's ugly... The phone is ugly and the user interface doesn't look as simple as the iPhone's.
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