 CobraGT2000
join:2003-04-29
Kansas City, MO
1 edit | America Today See that's what's wrong with America today, people are always trying to make a buck, stick with Webroot Spy sweeper, (IMHO - Best One Out) | |
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Karl Bode
News Guy
join:2000-03-02 | Re: America Today Making a buck is fine. Lying, cheating, and generally being a spineless parasite while you make a buck is not. | |
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Steve
I'm a PC, so shut up
Consultant
join:2001-03-10
Yorba Linda, CA
| Re: America Today said by Karl Bode  :
Lying, cheating, and generally being a spineless parasite while you make a buck is not.
sounds like "journalism" 
and consulting... oops | |
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drjim
Premium,MVM
join:2000-06-13
Torrance, CA
clubs: | Re: America Today Only if it's "Yellow Press"! | |
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IamZed
Premium
join:2001-01-10
Dayton, OH | You impugn the integrity of spyware vendors with that remark. | |
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jsinaiko
Premium
join:2001-04-25
Chicago, IL
 ·AT&T Midwest
| Well, the folks - like Yahoo, which uses Claria - that keep the bozos that produce the spy/adware outfits in business and then act "shocked, SHOCKED" that anyone would harass innocent folks that way are at least partially responsible.
The amount of stuff out there, the way it is written, the difficulty in deleting it are as obnoxious as anything I've encountered. It isn't just making a buck, it's harassment and ought to be illegal. If it was then legit outfits wouldn't be able to fund it on the sly. | |
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bigunk
Gort, Klattu Birada Nikto
join:2001-02-10
Santa Clarita, CA
·AT&T Yahoo
| I had a client with WSS. It kept reporting items that were deleted by Adaware, Spybot, or Pest Patrol. When I told WSS to expunge the items, it failed 100% of the time. I had heard it was good, but now my advice is to save your money.
In fairness, maybe something was set wrong, or maybe those threats were there, but undetectable by the other 3 tools. At any rate, I am not impressed, but I will keep an open mind.
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join:2004-02-22
Okemos, MI | Re: America Today I have WSS, it was a bug with an older build.
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Matt
Take me down to the paradise city
Premium
join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC | Love it..... I just wanted to say I LOVE the image for this article!
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viperpa33s
Why Me?
Premium
join:2002-12-20
Bradenton, FL | Re: Love it..... The worst part about it, CNET has this garbage program in there download section. CNET is part of the problem of spreading this crap around. We all know it's deceptive so why isn't CNET taking action to remove it? | |
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Sparrow
Crystal Sky
Premium
join:2002-12-03
Sachakhand
| Re: Love it..... said by viperpa33s :
The worst part about it, CNET has this garbage program in there download section. CNET is part of the problem of spreading this crap around. We all know it's deceptive so why isn't CNET taking action to remove it?
•Possibly because enough people have not yet complained to C|Net?
•The possibility of the crapware developer suing C|Net for liable?
•The possibility C|Net doesn't care?
•Does C|Net receive commission on the ad?
Get those e-mails rolling to C|Net with a link back to the original thread »MyNetInfector, and to all the other places where it turns up in a Google search »www.google.com/search?q=MyNetProtector.
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Sparrow
Crystal Sky
Premium
join:2002-12-03
Sachakhand
| Re: Love it..... Post your comments to C|Net here:
»www.download.com/MyNetProtector-···749.html
Please be aware you do need to register first.
This was the comment / review I posted (it will not show for up to two days if accepted): quote:
Please see a recent review of what this product actually does to your system by a noted Spyware expert: »MyNetInfector
I think it is an abomination that C|Net is allowing this product to remain available for download. The product is completely bogus and harmful to those unaware.
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Voyager2K2
join:2001-10-04
Wayne, PA
 ·Verizon FIOS
| Sadly It's the kids that will click on anything.
Who cares what a 13 y.o. kid's browsing habits are?
You can tell an adult not to accept that garbage and most will stop.
It's the kids who are drawn by either the allure of the offering, or neglecting to read the the disclaimers.
For that very reason alone the US should step in and get some legislation to stop these leeches from preying on minors.
If I could only remember how much pr0n and garbage pop-ups I have removed from friends kids' computers as well as bringing fairly robust systems to their knees performance-wise.
Spyware authors as well as their clients are the scum of the Internet. | |
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antiphishing
Phishing Scam Terminator
Premium
join:2004-06-09
Wilkes Barre, PA
| ____________________________________________________
Who cares what a 13 y.o. kid's browsing habits are?
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I worry about a thirteen year browsing habits when it comes to my local library. I have been falsely accused of doing damage against their computers because someone else infected the same computer that I was using with either a spyware, malware or a trojan horse. I was a easy target to blame because my local library staff knew my knowledge of the internet was much greater then theirs.
Because most of my local libraries are run by people who know nothing about internet security, their insecurities where strong enough to blame the obvious target. Which in my case was me. So if some thirteen year kid decides to open a email with a virus attachment, or goes to a site that infects their computers with spyware , innocent people could eventually get blamed.
This is the whole problem with spyware, not enough of the older generation born before the technology age, real don't understand what spyware is and how it infects computers. A lot of those people at my library think spyware is a program that someone intentional downloads onto their computers to spy on other people using the same computer or other computers on the same network.
Trying to explain what spyware is to staff at the library doesn't do any good because they end up becoming very augmentative , then they don't want to hear your opinions. Just trying to explain your opinions is enough to make them paranoid beyond belief. People should worry about teenagers who could do damage to computers by going to sites that install spyware. Keep in mind that many computers on the internet are shared by more then one person.
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Wall9
Tell Me, Did You See It Too?
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join:2002-06-25
Dupo, IL
2 edits | Good Grief I just got a call last night from a customer who said her machine was showing pop ups like that. She told me that she needed spyware.
I told her I'll be over this afternoon to explain a couple of things and to fix her machine.
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join:2001-11-30 | Re: Good Grief Been getting a lot of call like that! Sheech its almost either a stuped epidemic or this stuff is getting really bad! | |
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join:2002-05-02
Brooklyn, NY
| Re: Good Grief it's getting really bad. Some employee had this on the workstation, tried all various removal tools, but that thing still shows up no matter how much I removed it everywhere. The only thing left is a fresh install.. But I'm not about to do that.
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join:2002-06-27
San Diego, CA
| Re: Good Grief I think the person should suffer for a little while before we spend our good time to clean it up. If they are clueless about it, we'll be cleaning up their systems on a routine basis. Now if we are to be paid by the hour that would be great.
But often times we are doing this for our ignorant friends and family. So in my case.. I think I'll have to do a sit down session and illustrate the evils of spyware. Showing how it gets in and where it goes.
After they gain a better understanding.. only then will I do any removals .. or (sigh!) a total system reinstall. | |
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Wall9
Tell Me, Did You See It Too?
Premium
join:2002-06-25
Dupo, IL
| Re: Good Grief I get paid hourly and in cash, so I have to do it ASAP.
The last time I was there I know I installed Ad Aware and told her it's a once a week thing.
Last night she was close to following her son's advice (which I'm sure she misunderstood)and about ready to go to the store and ask for spyware. It's hard not to laugh when someone tells me that.
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testytester
@12.153.x.x
| install all latest patches.
go to regedit, then navigate to hkey local machine->software->microsoft->windows->current version->Run
look for any weird entries here such as "msnut -- c:\winnt\msnut.exe" or basically anything such as "abwedlf -- c:\winnt\system32\abwedlf.exe" and delete them >> backing up the key. this is the usual place the spyware re-hooks itself into the system after scanners get rid of the easy stuff. be careful with what you delete- search on the net for the name of the program in the run key before removing it. if something wrong gets deleted, just merge the backup .REG file back into registry by dbl-clicking it.
then, also run trendmicro's housecall scanner (housecall.trendmicro.com)-- which i have found to detect many things adaware,spybot, norton, mcafee, etc cannot find. allow it to delete anything detected.
reboot and verify the weird keys in the run section did not come back. if they did, then you still have the bugs - it would require in depth work to get rid of them - re-delete the weird keys, then reboot in safe mode and delete the EXE file listed in the run key on the hard drive, etc.
if not, just run all your scanners again to get rid of any traces, delete the temp inet files in I.E., and cross your fingers. | |
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zipjay
join:2003-03-11
Louisville, KY | One simple solution.... Use linux :-) this is your computer... this is your computer on windows... any questions..? | |
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alphacorvus
@speednetllc.com | Re: One simple solution.... Use linux :-) Yes, because clearly, every program that I need to use runs on Linux.
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@12.153.x.x | that is not a solution. linux also has vulnerabilities. greed will insure that they will all be exploited in time. | |
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ryanthadude2
Blah
join:2004-01-24
Walkerton, IN
| I am a Linux user and switching for the majority of people from Windows to Linux is NOT a solution. Although Linux has come along way in the past few years, it's still meant for the more seasoned user.
And if you think Linux can't get spyware, then you're very much mistaken, my friend. ANY OS can get spyware, trojans, viruses, ect. Just most of it is targeted to Windows. | |
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nydwarf
join:2001-08-24
St Catharines, ON | Horrible Fear and ignorance are the greatest sales tools ever invented. For these people an educated consumer is their worst customer. | |
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reub2000
Premium
join:2001-12-28
Evanston, IL | Why do you need false postives to scare? There is no need to use false positives to scare people. Legitimate anti-spyware programs will find enough on most computer to scare anyone. | |
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