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| Re: Ahahahahaha!! !! said by Mark1984:
just FUNNY :P. also wow.. if they're losing 10k a day i wonder how much they scam normally per day.... i knew its a lot of money but maybe more than i thought.
I hope they spend all their profits suing each other. Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of scumbags.
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1 edit | There Can Be Only One! I second that completely. These guys can cry me a river. :P
One can only hope that future Spyware goes around ripping each other's guts out from the afflicted PCs...there'd be less problems to fix when we get around to Spybot/Ad-Aware-ing the PC. | |
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| Re: you've got to be kidding me. said by ryder9  :that is so funny. there is no honor among thieves dammit! You beat me to it. No honor among thieves. | |
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ArchAngel21x
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Lincoln, NE | How about "As long as we are installing spyware on your system, would you like some software to go along with it?" | |
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| oops :/ i hadnt read down to this post before i just posted about the same type of idea. But actually many of them do say that already. havent you ever seen pop-ups saying click here to remove spyware/adware/stop popups? (of course hmm you might not have much i really havent except one time when a windows update build was causing problems with legitimate program conflicts so i uninstalled it/left it uninstalled and got a windows exploit installed to open a popup every few minutes :P) | |
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| Re: removes all spyware except ours said by DaveNJ :This could be a good thing, as spyware programs that removes spyware. Evenually there will be none left. Well there always has to be at least one.... or maybe AdAware will become spyware?
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| said by DaveNJ :This could be a good thing, as spyware programs that removes spyware. Evenually there will be none left. here here..Let's take a play from the CIA play book! Let's convince the CIA to covertly supply arms and money to each side in hopes of creating a bloody civil war where both sides decimate each other!!! Should work..it has before! 
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| Fight it out somewhere else... Why don't the two companies fight somewhere else, don't use my computer as a freakin battle ground. How about these companies do something nice...oh wait I know..make software that is ACTUALLY useful to the computing community?! Theres a concept!
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| Re: Fight it out somewhere else... said by paranoidxe :Why don't the two companies fight somewhere else, don't use my computer as a freakin battle ground. How about these companies do something nice...oh wait I know..make software that is ACTUALLY useful to the computing community?! Theres a concept! why would they do that? Can't make (a lot of free) money off of something that's useful.
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| Mixed reaction On one hand, I'm happy to see spyware companies fighting amongst themselves. That means they'll have less resources to try to thwart Ad-Aware, Spybot, etc.
On the other hand, a spyware battle fought on a user's desktop is likely to get bloody. I'm not sure I'd trust Direct Revenue to cleanly remove Avenue Media's spyware or vice versa. Of course, I wouldn't let either on my system to begin with.
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| Re: Mixed reaction It also means an arms race is probably beginning. Adware and spyware writers will make their products increasingly harder to remove--by anyone including Ad-Aware, Spybot, or any other spyware-writing-scumbag out there who wants to cheese off the other guy.
Yes, for me, the glass is always half empty. . .
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| The beginning of the end? While the adware/spyware companies have of course defended themselves, an incident like this provides a real-world demonstration that their business model is not based on sound ethics, and their products are not a viable approach in the long term. They argued and acted on the premise that it wasn't really a problem to alter users' systems and software, and ignored complaints about the consequences, but now they are experiencing the consequences themselves as they take then next logical step and alter installations of their competitors' software. As has already been pointed out, it's a great example of the "honor amongst thieves" paradox.
I think that we can only hope that this devolves into an ugly battle, starts to cripple the adware/spyware industry, and ultimately helps spur legislation to at least severely restrict this type of software.
I'm also left to wonder if it's not time for some reforms targeting TOS and licensing agreements. They've become more a means to obfuscate than inform, hiding troublesome details in book-length verbage. They would be much more informative if they had a summary of major points at the beginning, but I'm not sure how practically that could be required. | |
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kfsutops
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| Since it's in the EULA Since it's in to EULA (or whatever), is it really the companies fault or the person who installed this new software?
These companies always say the get permission from the license...so it's really not the companies fault but the person installing the softwares fault...
This is actually a funny lawsuit... | |
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1 edit | Re: Since it's in the EULA No, not the end user, that won't fly.
Now, as for suing the company removing the software...there you might find purchase.
Tort actions based on damage to business, lost profit due to intentional interference with contract, etc..
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| said by kfsutops :Since it's in to EULA (or whatever), is it really the companies fault or the person who installed this new software? What was it they said the TOS/EULA was in this case, about 70 pages? People aren't likely to bother to read them, in part because they've become so long and complex that they're almost unreadable. Perhaps there's a point that if you can't understand the agreement and it's not critical software from a reliable vendor, that should be a clue not to install it, but there is also a point that "fine print" is being abused almost specifically for the purpose of obfuscating the end users. | |
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| Re: Since it's in the EULA I guess my point in my whole post is this:
What's the difference between this and some virus removal or firewall vendors requiring you to uninstall a competitors product for their own product to run?
Wasn't this a big deal recently with one of the big companies recently, like CA or someone?
The difference is we are dealing with spyware/adware, but the concept is the same IMHO. I just don't get how there is a case here. | |
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| An old quote.... Wasn't it Henry Kissinger (commenting on the Iran/Iraq war of the 1980's) who said something like:
"In a battle like this, it is unfortunate only that both sides cannot simultaneously lose."
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