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Company claims they're overcoming backhaul issues...
12:50PM Wednesday Jun 18 2008 by Karl Bode
tags: wireless · alternatives · bandwidth · Sprint Broadband Direct
Sprint Nextel CTO Barry West yesterday stated that their mobile WiMax service is overcoming initial delays caused by a shortage of decent backhaul bandwidth and some glitches in the project's billing systems. West says that the service will officially launch this September in Baltimore, with DC and Chicago launches coming shortly thereafter. He also says some 575 Xohm WiMAX base station sites are currently live, with a number of devices still in testing.

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expert007

join:2006-01-10
Buffalo, NY

Baltimore

In September I'll head to Baltimore to see if its as good as they claim. Would be very cool to have major wireless bandwidth.....

ninjatutle

join:2006-01-02
San Ramon, CA

Will there be capage?

As with their Sprint Mobile Broadband service at 5GB?

Or will they wait until .5% of the users download too much and then cap everyone like they did with SMB?
decifal

join:2007-03-10
Bon Aqua, TN

Re: Will there be capage?

I was thinking the same deal.. Why have the extra bandwidth if you can't really use it? I mean a car that can go 200 mph, but with only 1/8 a gallon of gas.. Your not gonna go far with it.... Granted, I do understand some caps to restrain 733T dawg and friends from slaughtering the network with file sharing and such, but man.. Come on, legit video streaming and game patch downloads eats some bandwidth!!!
v_lestat
The Blood Is The Life

join:2002-11-09

Re: Will there be capage?

being in the business i can tell you that the WiMax isnt all they had hoped it would be. they can make all the claims and marketing hype they want,, but the results thus far are quite crappy, and i mean that,, very very disappointing.
expert007

join:2006-01-10
Buffalo, NY

Re: Will there be capage?

So what kinds of real world throughput are they seeing?

tc1uscg

join:2005-03-09
Saint Clair Shores, MI
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said by v_lestat See Profile :

being in the business i can tell you that the WiMax isnt all they had hoped it would be. they can make all the claims and marketing hype they want,, but the results thus far are quite crappy, and i mean that,, very very disappointing.
And you think LTE will be any better?
EPS

join:2008-02-13
Hingham, MA

Re: Will there be capage?

Who said anything about LTE?

Sprintuser

@omcastbusiness.net

Re: Will there be capage?

said by EPS See Profile :

Who said anything about LTE?
I did, thought I would toss that out since the only other U.S. 4G plans revolve around LTE.. Thought since he had such a grasp of WiMAX, he could shed some light on the not here yet for a long time LTE. Is that a problem?
EPS

join:2008-02-13
Hingham, MA

Re: Will there be capage?

The problem is LTE doesn't exist- we can't really say how it will act in reality.

tc1uscg

join:2005-03-09
Saint Clair Shores, MI

Re: Will there be capage?

That's funny.. The way the media (and telcom's who are "planing" to deploy it, you would think it's been here for 10 years already.
xenophon

join:2007-09-17
·Sprint Mobile Broa..


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June 18th, @03:58PM

said by v_lestat See Profile :

being in the business i can tell you that the WiMax isnt all they had hoped it would be. they can make all the claims and marketing hype they want,, but the results thus far are quite crappy, and i mean that,, very very disappointing.
Can you be more specific? Sounds like FUD from a Qualcomm employee. I've seen people posts speeds of 3-6Mbps with latency much better than EVDO. But I have heard there will be challenges indoors if not near a tower, unless doing fixed with an outdoor antenna. MIMO antennas should help down the road. And of course providing enough backhaul is a big challenge.

Also, Clearwire's pre-WiMAX is nothing like capabilities of 802.16e mobile WiMAX that Sprint is doing.

a333
A hot cup of integrals please

join:2007-06-12
Corona, NY
Care to elaborate on that statement?
VansHSI

join:2005-01-29
America
No, the wimax product is completely separate.
flyingjoey

join:2005-11-07
Jersey City, NJ
·Verizon FIOS

So those caps only apply to "broadband" cards.

I just noticed that sprint has new plans (talk & data).

It appears like the new caps do not apply to customers who have Phones with high speed capability e.g. the mogul/touch etc.

I keep looking at my account and for my data usage it reads unlimited, then again I've only used 365mb this month so far.
DoRight

join:2007-07-20
Mechanicsburg, PA

Heading my way

Now just make sure that coverage goes about an hour and a half north of Bmore.. Oh wait.. I'm in a Shentel Market... Forget that for a long time..

phoneboy3

@shawcable.net

STILL "just around the corner"

Here we are several years in and WiMAX is STILL just around the corner. Too little too late! Sounds like the Telco's are swinging towards LTE now.
xenophon

join:2007-09-17
·Sprint Mobile Broa..

Re: STILL "just around the corner"

LTE will probably not be available on a wide variety of products as WiMAX has a much greater chance to. LTE will be tightly controlled by 3GGP, the telcom industry. WiMAX is controlled by IEEE as is WiFi, independent of carriers and more open to consumer device makers.

WiMAX should do well in dedicated devices like cameras, ebook readers, streaming radios, GPS devices, etc. It will have greater challenges, specifically backhaul challenges, to become a replacement for cable/dsl lines. LTE will have that challenge too in addition to not being available on broad range of consumer products.
xenophon

join:2007-09-17

Amsterdam turns on WiMAX

About $30US/month.

»www.computerworld.com/action/art···=9099738

RaulF

@constellation.com

Range

Anyone know the range of the service, like for DC, will it be pretty much only DC, or will the signal travel farther??? Thanks.
xenophon

join:2007-09-17
·Sprint Mobile Broa..

Re: Range

Speed degrades with distance. Word is, real world is 2-6 miles per site in urban areas and 6 to maybe 10 miles in rural areas with LOS.

When cheap WiMAX repeaters come around, they'll be able to setup many in an area w/out needing to backhaul each one. Could even be put on streetlight poles that have LOS to a master WiMAX backhaul site.

RaulF

@constellation.com

Re: Range

Thank you.

KSUJace
Golden Flash

join:2001-12-01
Chicago, IL

What Happened to 1Q 2008 Chicago Launch?

The firm chose CES to announce that Chicago and Washington, D.C. should get that coveted 4G service "by year-end 2007, with a larger rollout encompassing at least 100 million people by year-end 2008."
So much for those plans.
xenophon

join:2007-09-17

Re: What Happened to 1Q 2008 Chicago Launch?

They ran into backhaul issues for each site in Chicago and didn't have the billing system ready yet. Baltimore might be first now because it's a smaller area, so easier to get fewer sites the backhaul they need.
expert007

join:2006-01-10
Buffalo, NY

Re: What Happened to 1Q 2008 Chicago Launch?

I'd say that the billing issues were the real problem, which AFAIK they didn't mention prior to this latest round of developments. The backhaul issue seems to be "solved" with exactly what some watchers suggested, wireless PtP backhaul & dark fiber, which certainly (?) doesn't belong to Sprint. I hope they're able to make steady progress on this now without any major hiccups so that we can put WiMax thru its paces.
stevech0

join:2006-09-17
San Diego, CA

said by KSUJace See Profile :

The firm chose CES to announce that Chicago and Washington, D.C. should get that coveted 4G service "by year-end 2007, with a larger rollout encompassing at least 100 million people by year-end 2008."
So much for those plans.
It's a stretch to call '16e mobile WiMax "4G" since it isn't initially focused on voice. The public thinks of 2G, 3G, 4G as better voice and faster data. As in EV-DO RevA and on (HSPDA is, what, a fish out of water?).

Sprint does have guts to do this, given people don't like to pay much for data-only bandwidth.
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