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join:2007-07-20
Mechanicsburg, PA | Clearwire pricing/Competition or Partner How is this going to price against their partner Clearwire. Clearwire will be launching in Bmore by end of year also.. Clearwire's speeds do not compare right now to what Wimax will offer.. | |
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i r teh smarts
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Jonesville, MI | Re: Clearwire pricing/Competition or Partner Sprint's WiMax IS Clearwire, just a new company with investments from some big players. | |
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| Re: Clearwire pricing/Competition or Partner Then why is Sprint treating it like it has nothing to do with Clearwire on a lot of their articles that I have seen?
From what I have seen and the newsletters I get Sprint is still using the XOHM name and Clearwire is stilling deploying their services with the backing of the others like Sprint, Camcast, Inetl etc.. | |
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join:2008-02-13
Hingham, MA
| Re: Clearwire pricing/Competition or Partner Technically, their deal hasn't gone through, so Sprint has to do everything on their own for now in their launch- once the deal goes through the early Xohm network will be merged with Clearwire, though Sprint may keep Xohm branding on Sprint-sold services. | |
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Lake Zurich, IL | Re: Clearwire pricing/Competition or Partner What marketing genius decided to sell wireless service with a brand name like ClearWIRE. | |
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Lake Zurich, IL | Re: Clearwire pricing/Competition or Partner what genius didn't realize that it's a play on words...CLEAR WIRE... a wire thats clear...like wireless....hmmm | |
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Lake Zurich, IL | Re: Clearwire pricing/Competition or Partner Fiber optic is a clear wire. Wireless means there is no wire. 
If that's what they're going for then they are too cute by half. | |
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MattE
Obama '08
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Jamestown, NC
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| Re: Clearwire pricing/Competition or Partner said by jester121  :Fiber optic is a clear wire. Wireless means there is no wire. If that's what they're going for then they are too cute by half. My fiber optic is not a clear wire. It has a reflective coating that forces the light to travel along a certain path. | |
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| Re: Clearwire pricing/Competition or Partner said by MattE :[ My fiber optic is not a clear wire. It has a reflective coating that forces the light to travel along a certain path. It sounds like you need to do some research on Total Internal Reflection (»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Total_inte···flection). There isn't a "reflecitve coating" in fiber optic cable.
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MattE
Obama '08
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| Re: Clearwire pricing/Competition or Partner said by hawgcaller :said by MattE :[ My fiber optic is not a clear wire. It has a reflective coating that forces the light to travel along a certain path. It sounds like you need to do some research on Total Internal Reflection (» en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Total_inte···flection). There isn't a "reflecitve coating" in fiber optic cable. -phil Semantics. The boundary layer (cladding) reflects the light along a specific path through the core.
Regardless, my main point was that the fiber optic cable (nor the fiber strand(s) inside) is not "clear". | |
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Lake Zurich, IL | Re: Clearwire pricing/Competition or Partner You said it. Semantics. | |
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a333
A hot cup of integrals please
join:2007-06-12
Corona, NY | But what guru decided to use such a badly-reputated brand name to market their superior network under?
BTW, it's mainly known as XOHM, not Clearwire. ClearCrap will only own part of the network and shoulder part of the associated costs/profits... | |
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join:2008-02-13
Hingham, MA
| Re: Clearwire pricing/Competition or Partner That deal, in which Clearwire and Sprint would split the country and roam on each others networks, has been scrapped- the new plan is to merge Xohm and Clearwire into a company that will be 51% owned by Sprint- there will be no distinction between the two networks after the merger. | |
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a333
A hot cup of integrals please
join:2007-06-12
Corona, NY
·Verizon Online DSL
| Because clearwire uses a crappy fixed specification of WiMax.
The new Xohm network will use much superior technology compared to ClearCrap, which will have better backhaul and will actually be truly mobile.
The new network may be split with clearwire, but it sure as hell won't use existing ClearCrap equipment. | |
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@clearwire-dns.net
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A mobile user will handover seamlessly from one AP to another with no interruption of service.
This is the same WiMAX that Sprint XOHM will use. And we use the same vendors. | |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | Price is reasonable... Just require the following before thinking about it:
1. Coverage (no coverage in L.A.)
2. Caps ?
3. Limits of use ?
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i r teh smarts
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join:2003-02-06
Jonesville, MI
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| Re: Price is reasonable... Number 2 is the one that has me concerned. With them just sticking the 5GB cap on the mobile broadband, I'd be interested in seeing if they do the same with WiMax or remove the limit on mobile broadband because of the additional bandwidth WiMax can supply to the tower. | |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | Re: Price is reasonable... I should probably add in equipment as well.
WiFi = already in laptop
3G = tethered data from existing cell phone.
WiMAX = ???
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join:2008-02-13
Hingham, MA | Re: Price is reasonable... Probably have laptop cards, like they have for 3G if you don't have tethering- note that EV-DO Rev. A started out as only for laptop cards and only now are we starting to see it on phones as well, the progression may be similar here. | |
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i r teh smarts
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| You mean paying for a device to connect to the internet like nearly everyone does? Cable modem? DSL modem? EVDO modem? Not to mention, that WiMax will likely be integrated in laptops, like they did with WiFi and they're doing with EVDO modems. A simple MiniPCI card isn't a huge hassle. | |
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Obama '08
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Jamestown, NC
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| said by en102 :I should probably add in equipment as well. WiFi = already in laptop 3G = tethered data from existing cell phone. WiMAX = ??? Intel has a laptop/desktop chipset bundle that has WiMAX. Sort of like the Centrino bundle that requires an Intel WiFi card now.
It'll have WiFi and WiMAX capability. | |
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join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
| Re: Price is reasonable... said by MattE :Intel has a laptop/desktop chipset bundle that has WiMAX. Sort of like the Centrino bundle that requires an Intel WiFi card now. It'll have WiFi and WiMAX capability. If WiMAX was serious as something more than just another cellular wireless network standard, Intel would be force bundling WiMAX years ago as part of its "Centrino" package to establish a user base before service launches. WiMAX is a joke. | |
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i r teh smarts
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join:2003-02-06
Jonesville, MI | Re: Price is reasonable... Yes, that makes a lot of sense considering Intel is one of the investors and already has a huge investment in the WiMAX technology. Tell me again, when was the standard finalized? | |
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join:2005-01-29
America | Starting in '09 with their new chipsets(can't remember the codename) wimax will be included in every single computer that has an intel processor.
any computer you buy will give you the option of wifi or wimax built in. | |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | Re: Price is reasonable... I guess AMD users won't have it.
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| Re: Price is reasonable... said by en102 :I guess AMD users won't have it. Won't have it built in on their chipsets. Big difference. | |
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Hingham, MA | Considering the monopolist lawsuits already existing against Intel, one would wonder whether force-bundling WiMax chipsets could provoke anything... | |
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Obama '08
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| Re: Price is reasonable... said by EPS :Considering the monopolist lawsuits already existing against Intel, one would wonder whether force-bundling WiMax chipsets could provoke anything... I'm sure it will just be a mini-pci card like the Centrino stuff. | |
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join:2005-01-29
America
| said by EPS :Considering the monopolist lawsuits already existing against Intel, one would wonder whether force-bundling WiMax chipsets could provoke anything... Why would it provoke anything? They are giving someone the option of using it - that's all. They're not forcing you to pay $50 a month.
If you want to stick a 3g card in your computer or even a competing 4g card from another carrier than so be it. | |
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join:2005-03-10
Callahan, FL | confirms they're aiming at less than $50 Get Wimax for the low price of $49.95/mo!
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Jamaica, NY | cap Whats the cap? | |
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join:2007-09-17
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| Re: cap They may have a cap since the entire industry is heading that way, but it would have to be greater than 5GB as they want to compete with cable/dsl. 3G has 5GB cap because the infrastructure was designed for voice first, data second. WiMAX is designed for data first. | |
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join:2005-01-29
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join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
| Re: cap said by VansHSI :They have already stated there will be no cap There might not be a cap, but there will be a "bandwidth allotment". So if there is no restriction, what will they do when I torrent Bluray 24/7? | |
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@etransnational.com | Supposed to be truly unlimited but we won't know for sure until launch.
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flyingjoey
join:2005-11-07
Jersey City, NJ | The Real Question is WiMax is not going to be available EVERYWHERE... so will the WiMax cards/units have EVDO Rev. A (which is more widely available) available as a backup? | |
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join:2007-09-17
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| Re: The Real Question is Sprint intends to offer WiMAX/EVDO combo cards as well - Samsung has one. Not sure if they'll be available for first launch though.
Sprint may keep the Xohm name for combo services offered by SprintPCS, such as with an EVDO/WiMAX card. The new Sprint/Clearwire company probably won't delve into EVDO but SprintPCS may resell 'new' Clearwire services with Sprint's other services under the Xohm name. So in a way, SprintPCS will resell Sprint/Clearwire services in the way that cable partners will resell the 'new' Clearwire service. | |
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Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | Wouldn't be good for me... I'd want one that hands off to GSM/UMTS, not 1x/EVDO.
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join:2007-09-17 | Re: The Real Question is You'll have to wait for LTE. | |
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join:2005-11-07
Jersey City, NJ | am I the only one who feels that GSM Calls sound like shyt?
CDMA calls sound so much clearer. | |
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join:2004-10-12
Las Vegas, NV
| Re: The Real Question is said by flyingjoey :am I the only one who feels that GSM Calls sound like shyt? CDMA calls sound so much clearer. Nope, you aren't the only one who feels that way. | |
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Fur It Up
join:2007-06-22
Portland, OR
·Comcast
| Day Passes I do not see WiMax as a permanent solution but I would be interested in a day pass for time I have ether deal with crappy hotel connections or when I go home to see mom, she only has dial up. Better yet for for doing the local G-sale Estates sale, or vulture capital* business I would like a prepaid plan.
*I buy the inventory form closing business and resell on Eba y. | |
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join:2007-09-17
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| Re: Day Passes Yes, the target is to have a model of day/weekly/monthly pay-as-you-go service with no contracts, maybe even hourly.
Other dedicated devices may have the cost built into the service, like an eBook reader that has the cost of network usage in cost of book, like Kindle. | |
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OPStimus PRime
@optonline.net | so.... after all of this, i just would like to know.....
would any of you invest in this? I first heard of WiMax from somewhere about 3 years ago and i was waiting for it to take off.....
so... would you? | |
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Surfinusa
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join:2001-02-08 |  Speed vs. Price
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