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Mount Airy, MD | Re: $1 per MB? said by BF69:What a joke. We all know it doesn't cost them 1/1000th that. So don't buy it.
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| Re: $1 per MB? said by sonicmerlin:said by pnh102:said by BF69:What a joke. We all know it doesn't cost them 1/1000th that. So don't buy it. The outrage stems from a lack of options offering legitimately priced services. Doesnt just about every cell company have data prices like this? Since that is the case, it would seem that yes, these prices ARE legit, and are more or less THE going rate. There is also no point in saying what you (or others) think the costs per MB are to the cell companies because it comes off as though you are saying a business is not allowed to make money, or if they are...only a certain amount.
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| | | | | | Re: $1 per MB? said by swintec:Doesnt just about every cell company have data prices like this? Since that is the case, it would seem that yes, these prices ARE legit, and are more or less THE going rate. This is like BF's example of a $200 burger. Wireless carriers are using finite public airwaves. Anyone can't just "compete" (like they could if McDonalds charged $200 for a burger).
Wireless looks a lot like monopolistic price fixing, not simply the "going rate." We can never know because we can never "go" with more than a handful of companies due to their dependence on a limited public resource (airwaves).
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| | | | | | | | Re: $1 per MB? said by swintec:Many burgers are sold as loss leaders, ... look at fountain drinks. Those two examples don't change the fact that anyone can open a burger joint and compete if the existing burger joints set their prices exorbitantly high.
Nobody can do that with wireless because those companies are dependent upon a finite public resource (the airwaves). It's like a private contractor taking over all the national parks, charging $200 for entrance, and saying "it's just the going rate."
Loss leaders are just price wars. If we had that "problem" with wireless carriers, we wouldn't be having this conversation.
Exorbitantly-priced drinks don't preclude anyone from asking for water, or bringing their own drink to McDonalds.
Which takes us back to wireless carriers: If BK, McDonalds and Wendy's charged $20 for a drink, anyone could get a piece of that action by opening a burger joint that charges only $10 for a drink.
said by swintec:In the end, again, what does it matter what it truly costs to provide data (or any product / service) It feels like you're changing the topic. How can you know "what it truly costs" when the market is dependent upon a finite public resource, and fresh competition is prevented from entering?
said by swintec:....are we saying how much a business is allowed to make now? Maybe we should. Maybe wireless carriers should be treated like a public utility. Their profits and rates monitored to ensure the public's bestowing near-monopoly status isn't abused?
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Public airwaves? Really? Wireless carriers pay vast amounts of money to use those blocks of spectrum. Sure they get a huge return on investment, but at that point the airwaves are theirs to do with as they see fit (within FCC regulations).
I'm not saying $1/MB is a fair price, but are the phones they'll market with the service really capable of using enough data for that price to matter? I'd say they're pricing it artificially high in order to discourage users from finding a way to hack their Moto Droids and HTC Heros onto the lower-priced service.
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: $1 per MB? said by i2Fuzzy:You want innovation? Then you need competition. I agree with your point. But, we don't have competition when a limited number of providers base their business upon finite public resource (airwaves). That's a recipe for monopolistic practices.
I agree that emerging technologies benefit from lower regulation. That argument especially applied in 1994 (when cell phones were rare, and the size of your head).
But, at what point does something that become commonplace, and harmed by a monopolistic environment?
IMO, the part of the wireless companies that is old, mature and widely-adopted would benefit from the kind of "break up" that we did with the telcos a few decades ago. It was that kind of "market" intervention that allowed innovation to occur (while keeping the old stuff under regulatory controls to ensure the monopoly wouldn't abuse the public's trust in allowing it to be created in the first place).
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1 edit | said by amigo_boy:Exorbitantly-priced drinks don't preclude anyone from asking for water, or bringing their own drink to McDonalds. Exorbitantly priced data doesnt preclude anyone from not using data on there phones to begin with, or using a phone with built in Wi-Fi either, right? Sure it is a trade off and can be annoying, but so is getting water when I wanted a Dr. Pepper.
said by amigo_boy:How can you know "what it truly costs" when the market is dependent upon a finite public resource. True, I suppose the same could be asked to karl when he puts out weekly "reports" on outrageous data prices, whether it be cable companies or wireless companies. Seems he always tries to eludes to what the cost per gig actually is, as if it really matters in the end.
Users make comments about it as well about what they think the cost is.
Finite public resources, coupled with huge increases in demand drives costs higher.
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: $1 per MB? said by swintec:Seems he always tries to eludes to what the cost per gig actually is, as if it really matters in the end. I may agree with you. I think this site is just the flip side of the same partisan coin.
But, my argument is that you can never know what the cost per gig actually is when the "market" is limited to a handful of providers who may have grown comfortable with their unchallengable status.
You're the one who argued as if "markets get it right." The basis of that argument is that competition exists. I don't see how it can when a relatively few have a complete lock on the very basis of their service: public airwaves.
That's like giving Cox easements and rights of way within a community, and then saying they're charging what the market will bear -- when we have no idea what the market will bear because nobody else has the luxury of those easements and rights of way (the product of society, not the "market.").
said by swintec:Finite public resources, coupled with huge increases in demand drives costs higher. Again, you're making a supply-and-demand ("market") argument.
If I owned all the water in the country, that too would be a supply-and-demand equation. But, not the way you're trying to depict it.
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| | | | | | | | | | said by swintec: Sure it is a trade off and can be annoying, but so is getting water when I wanted a Dr. Pepper. BTW: I can take my Dr. P into McDonalds or Burger King.
What's the wireless analogy to that?
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| Re: $1 per MB? said by amigo_boy:said by swintec: Sure it is a trade off and can be annoying, but so is getting water when I wanted a Dr. Pepper. BTW: I can take my Dr. P into McDonalds or Burger King. What's the wireless analogy to that? For one, you are lucky..I tried that once and got shot down.
In this case, use movie concessions instead...can you bring your own popcorn and soda into there? Does one pay the 89.95  for a soda or make the trade off and just use the water fountain?
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: $1 per MB? said by swintec:In this case, use movie concessions instead...can you bring your own popcorn and soda into there? Does one pay the 89.95 for a soda or make the trade off and just use the water fountain? Depends on the theater? I know a couple independents that don't care.
Which gets back to how anyone can open a movie theater. We have more reason to believe that the existing prices are a result of supply and demand.
We don't have that with wireless carriers.
That's not to say good things didn't develop from the quasi monopoly. Maybe wireless communications wouldn't have developed (or, developed as fast as they did) without their ownership of public airwaves.
But, that's not the same as a "market." At some point I think it will be reasonable to ask if they've made sufficient profit from their investment, and how to break them up so they're incented to continue innovating (and not rest on their socially-assisted monopoly).
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said by swintec:If no one wants to take the risk why should current players in the market be dumped on for others lack of interest in over building? I think the question is whether they can. As far as I know, there is no spectrum available.
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We might want to revisit the meaning of "compete?"
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kudos:4 | said by swintec:Many burgers are sold as loss leaders, or pretty darn close (especially with the double cheeseburger wars going on)...Many BK franchisees were up in arms when BK launched there double cheeseburgers last year, stating the selling price was what there cost was, or less than there cost (depending on the part of the country they were in). BULLSHIT! its all about double digit profits. the only way that burger came close to costing what they said it was is if they were making it like the one you see on TV[which they aren't] that is totally slathered in condiments!
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Mount Airy, MD | Re: $1 per MB? said by BF69:That's your answer to everything. Well, why choose to be ripped off?
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Valencia, CA | Re: $1 per MB? Exactly... let them fail and don't bail them out.
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kudos:5 | said by BF69:What a joke. We all know it doesn't cost them 1/1000th that. And people getting these cheap phones won't be using data anyway. It is there for the very rare chance someone needs to check some web site in an emergency.
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Camden, TN | Re: $1 per MB? said by Linklist:said by BF69:What a joke. We all know it doesn't cost them 1/1000th that. And people getting these cheap phones won't be using data anyway. It is there for the very rare chance someone needs to check some web site in an emergency. Doesn't matter. Just because a cheeseburger isn't a necessity means McDonald's, Burger King and Wendy's should charge $100 for one.
I just long for the days when providing a good product or service at a reasonable price and actually caring about your customers meant something. | |
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How about you go start a business, buy the product and then resell the product to me almost at cost and make sure you can still pay your business insurance, keep your store open, pay the electricity bill, pay for your Business internet connection, buy your own health insurance, pay your business phone, etc... After you do all that for about 6 months give me a call and tell me how much money you have made or if you a going bankrupt because you have a poor business model. | |
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Mount Airy, MD | Might Have To Look Into It When I decided that my wife's cell phone cost too much I found that I would not be saving anything and possibly pay more if I went with services like TracFone and Net10.
I'll definitely have to look into this.
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2 edits | Almost competitive price to VoIp So 7¢ (0.07) for 2 minutes (60 seconds x 2 = 120 seconds - 1 = 119 seconds. So it is 1 second off).
That is 3.5¢ (3 1/2 cents) per minute (0.07 / 2).
It's almost competitive to your "average" name brand VoIp (1 cent per minute).
Maybe worth checking out to make phone calls, which the "average" user is looking for.
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1 edit | Re: That is no deal According to the website its $20/month for unlimited text or 7¢ per text without the Unlimited Messaging Add-on.
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| Re: That is no deal said by ScottMo:According to the website its $20/month for unlimited text or 7¢ per text without the Unlimited Messaging Add-on. Not great pricing but for lighter users its not bad. I don't see where this stands out, though. yes it seems like great pricing for lite users. I wish Verizon would offer something for these same prices. I would get a second cell phone so I always have one connected at home tomy cordless phone. But I need to use a Femtocell in my condo and I already have a Verizon one, so I'm not about to buy another one forom Sprint. | |
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Billings, MT | TracFone's Straight Talk is a better deal.. Let's compare..
said by "Sprint's Common Cents Mobile" :
$20 Card (up to 565min) or $30 Card (up to 848min)
$0.07/min Voice (rounded down)
$0.07/Text
$1/MB
said by "TracFone's Straight Talk" :
$30/mo
1000 Minutes
1000 Texts
30MB Mobile Web Access
Calls to 411 at no extra charge
$45/mo
Unlimited Minutes
Unlimited Texts
Unlimited Mobile Web Access
Unlimited Calls to 411
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| That doesn't look too bad to me Prepaid is mostly for low usage customers who don't do data anyways, so I think the prices are actually pretty good.
Compare with prepaid cellphones in Canada: lowest per minute rate is 25 cents (where the big guys actually charge more like 35 cents).
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| Re: That doesn't look too bad to me Our lowest rate is 20 cents/min. or part (President's Choice). Most other prepaid is 25 cents/min. or part. Long distance charges add an additional 25 cents/minute or part.
From my location, long distance occurs 8 miles east, 25 miles west of my place.
President's Choice allows full remaining credit carryover to the next month provided you top up before the expiry time. $15 (30 day) and $25 (60 day).
I understand any value topup card for the 7-11 store phones have their cards expire after 1 year. Credit rollover?????
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Scarborough, ON | Re: That doesn't look too bad to me Even 20 cents/min is nowhere near 7c/min.
My wife and a few friends use 7-11. The credit is valid for a year and if you top up before the expiration, it adds up to the existing credit. Minutes are $25 cents and long distance is extra. | |
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| Re: That doesn't look too bad to me Agreed. When I was in Cleveland last summer, most of the PAYG topup cards came up to about 10 cents/minute. The phones were a helluva lot cheaper as well. Exchange was close enough to call it par.
Up here ... double plus the price.
Perhaps, for us up north, someone could chime in as to what constitutes "long distance" in the US? Is there such a thing? Not asking about out-of-country calls n either direction.
A couple of years ago, we couldn't believe our friends and their cell usage patterns, even though we were all in another state. Even to find out where one part was in the same mall. When my friend told me of the plan they were on (each family member had a cell phone), their total costs for all 5 phones was $125/month, including all usage.
Unless things up here have drastically changed, the closest thing we would have here as a comparison would likely be well over $3000/month for equivalent # phones & use patterns.
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kudos:4 | said by vintagewino:President's Choice allows full remaining credit carryover to the next month provided you top up before the expiry time. $15 (30 day) and $25 (60 day). I was wondering if walmart was doing this expiring unused minutes bullshit. some one of these days someone will actually come up with a FAIR prepaid plan!
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2 edits | 7 cents a min is the only deal here My common sense tells me:
The plan is .07 cents per min, not .035 cents per min.
If I talk 10 minutes, I am billed .70 cents.
If I talk 10 minutes and 30 seconds I am still paying .70 cents.
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| Re: 7 cents a min is the only deal here So you bought the $400 2-year 5000-minute airtime card? Whew, that's a LOT of minutes...
According to my math you're spending at least $16.67 per month on service ($400 / 24 months) which is 67% more than Common Cents's minimum...
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| Another Sprint failure This one is going nowhere. Only Sprint could come up with a business plan whereby they create 4 different divisions whose soul purpose is to cannibalize the others.
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You can call it per minute but it is really the old flat monthly fee for up to X minutes. I have per minute long distance on my phone line, for example. I pay a high per minute rate but if I don't use long distance this month I pay nothing. If I use 5 minutes next month I pay for 5 minutes. This is the way per minute should work.
This doesn't seem to me very different from most other low end monthly plans. The marketing is just changed to make it sound different. If they are trying to appeal to low usage voice customers I don't see how this is superior to some of the prepaid plans from other companies, with longer intervals, that are actually geared toward the needs of people who don't need a consistent bundle of minutes per month. | |
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| Re: I don't get the idea that these are pay per minute plans... The PAYG plan has its place. If a person only wants the phone for the odd use (some might call it "emergency use"), where you may only use a few minutes per month, it's THE way to go. If you keep the phone at your head 24/7, PAYG is the dumbest thing to do. Let's keep it in perspective.
Had a phone on a plan for 10 years. By the time you figured in plan costs, System Access Fee, etc., for OUR usage patterns, it came out close to $2/minute. Dumped that phone & plan almost 3 years ago, went PAYG. Ended up with a substantial credit for air time.
Had a situation recently for 2 months where that phone had to be used A LOT (all long distance). Used up almost $200 in credits. Still have a fair amount in credits outstanding. A phone on a plan would have killed me.
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Marshfield, MA | Rounding to 0 So if the call is less than a minute, does it round to 0? | |
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| confusing as it is.. isn't it confusing as it is to compare these "low cost" pre-paid services to one another?
the regular tracfone has the lowest cost of ownership but the cost of minutes vary depending upon certain variables such as the double minutes for life, cost of cards, bonus minutes (codes), discount purchase of cards from a wholesaler,etc.
sprint always seems to make things complicated. I think a 5-10 cent cost (depending upon how many minutes purchased) with a 90 day window of use-- that rolls over if you add another ppd card before expiration. also, 6 second billing increments also make sense.
back in the days of the "long distance" price wars.. minority carriers utilized this strategy (6 second billing) to steal away customers from competitors such as sprint and eventually sprint adopted this billing method for a while.
the other elephant in the room is the quality of handsets.. we've always seen the more feature filled handsets going to the more costly provider. want an mp3 player or decent camera or other whizbang features? expect to pay more for the service (in addition to the phone) too. this is even across the walled garden of net10||tracfone. | |
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|  This is still a rip off, afterall, its still Sprint
So flipping what. Its RADIO, which used to be FREE.
If you take every dime ever spent on ADVERTISING CELLULAR that accounts for more of the cost than anything else.
No matter how you slice and dice it, cellular is and will always be a TOTAL RIP OFF because it is in the hands of a few corporate monsters who have claimed the bandwidth and have every intention of extorting every possible penny from the market until our dying day, or thereafter, if possible. Until we actually have competition in the market, or we rewrite the LAW and castrate these bloodsuckers, we are screwed.
For example, we must, once again, buy another unnecessary cellphone to add to our collection of toxic land fill. The fact that my old Sprint phone can't be used on this SPRINT network is not only ludicrous, it should be a crime and as harshly dealt with as an oil spill. Evil Greedy Wasteful Ripoff. Period. Corporations should exceed our expectations, not consistently FAIL to meet them.
Screwing citizens for the benefit of shareholders may be legal and ethical, but its immoral and uncivilized to screw the 'many' for the benefit of the 'few'. Ultimately this needs to change in all corporate commerce, or else pretty soon our diet will be to "eat the rich" instead of eating soylent green happy meals.
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kudos:1 | Sprint as a partner, not too great. I wonder why they chose Sprint to do this with? They don't have coverage in many areas (mine being one, they roam on U.S. Cellular and Verizon up here), get set to roam a lot if you leave the highways and biways. Besides, their customer service isn't that good.
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| | | Re: Sprint as a partner, not too great. I'm just curious, ilvla, have you actually ever used Sprint yourself or are you just parroting what you may have heard from others regarding customer service? | |
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| | Socialism If you all want a socialist lifestyle. Move to Cuba. It doesn't matter what it costs a company to provide a service. They can charge whatever they feel. ($100 per MB if they wish). if one does not like it, then dont do business with that company. it is as simple as that | |
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| Re: Socialism said by DumbDumb :
If you all want a socialist lifestyle. Move to Cuba. It doesn't matter what it costs a company to provide a service. They can charge whatever they feel. ($100 per MB if they wish). if one does not like it, then dont do business with that company. it is as simple as that
So, in your theory of the world since BP is the current "FACE" of spilled oil, there would be a 100% (or damned close) boycott of their end-use product(s) mostly gasoline. Unless they undercut the market place to gain back customers. Problem is consumers are more like sheep than savvy free market consumers. Take Apple's success in just about any market they enter.. even this Ipad Madness... a once dead market because of the costs involved & lack of any appeal outside the business consumer. Look how the sheep flock to Apple ipads because the Steve Jobs mass hypnosis goes "Baaaaah!"
Don't take this to mean Sprint will have any success breaking through because as I hinted at in an earlier post consumers aren't smart enough to figure out if this plan will be cost effective for them or not (total cost of ownership/bottom line price after all taxes/fees/charges etc). Disruptive pricing would look more like 5 cents a minute with 6 second rounding plus smart hansets (with wifi/apps/os) topping out at $150 depending upon feature sets (equivalent to a 16gb iphone). Sprint's got a ways to go to make pre-paid a more successful market than $50 boost mobile. | |
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USA | CDMA Looks like CDMA phones only. The plan expires too fast to be useful to me also.
I'm sticking with GSM until 4G is ready to use and maybe for a while after. I invested in an unlocked smartphone and I want to average the cost out for a while. | |
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Why not implement 6 second billing.
The big gouge is billing customers in 60 second increments. One benefit of 6 Second billing is that it reduces minutes used by about 20% because it reduced rounding error. An example of rounding error is when a customer ends a call one second into the next minute and is charged for a full minutes of usage. With 6 second billing the largest overcharge is 5 seconds. Do not forget that these prepaid plans do not include no charge night and weekend or mobile to mobile minutes.
