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join:2007-03-20
Pensacola, FL | I rarely get spam on Gmail On ISP or Yahoo, I get a ton. | |
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TK Junk Mail
Go ahead, make my day
Premium
join:2002-03-03
Margate City, NJ
clubs:
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| Re: I rarely get spam on Gmail said by supergirl  :On ISP or Yahoo, I get a ton. Me either. Gmail's spam filters really do an excellent job of identifying and blocking spam. Only about 2 or 3 per week make it in to my inbox. | |
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What? You Say It's Fixed. Hah
join:2001-11-29
Cyberspace | Re: I rarely get spam on Gmail That's the jist of the article I got out of it. My only comment is that I noticed this a couple of years ago and isn't anything new to those who deal with the primary level of transactions. | |
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join:2003-08-09
Lake Zurich, IL | Sounds about typical - one site I manage rejected 67% up front and then shitcanned about 25% of the remainder. | |
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swhitney2003
quack.
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join:2003-06-13
Weare, NH | I'm glad I have gmail. My spam box hovers at about 3000 spam messages for the past 30days worth of mail. I rarely get spam into my inbox | |
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aaron8301
I can't get myself to go away.
join:2005-01-03
Clarkston, WA
·CableOne
| said by Karl Bode :spam email accounted for 90 to 95 percent of all email in 2007 I wouldn't know... I never see any of it on my Gmail account. About twice a month I get an email from a highly respected barrister saying that a distant relative of mine has died and left me a few million Naira, but that's about it. So pretty soon I should be filthy rich AND spam free!
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Premium,MVM
join:2001-02-14
San Jose, CA | About 97% of the spam to my Yahoo! and ISP accounts winds up in the "Bulk" folder.
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LilYoda
Feline with squirel personality disorder
Premium
join:2004-09-02
Mountains
| You know what's weird?
I got a gmail about a year and a half ago (had had an invite sitting in my yahoo mail for a while)
I've never used it. ever! I've never sent a single email with it, and forgot about it.
When I go back to it now, I see 12 spams in the inbox, and 296 in the spam folder. I'd find it surprising that I'm the only gmail user whose email was sold to spam outfits by google,  so I have no idea how the *$@! this email got added to spam lists (when none of my other emails have).
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MattE
Obama '08
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join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
 ·North State Commun..
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| Re: I rarely get spam on Gmail said by LilYoda :You know what's weird? I got a gmail about a year and a half ago (had had an invite sitting in my yahoo mail for a while) I've never used it. ever! I've never sent a single email with it, and forgot about it. When I go back to it now, I see 12 spams in the inbox, and 296 in the spam folder. I'd find it surprising that I'm the only gmail user whose email was sold to spam outfits by google, so I have no idea how the *$@! this email got added to spam lists (when none of my other emails have). I doubt Google sold it to spam outfits, lol. You have a common email address that the spammers just guessed, or you signed up for pr0n after one too many and don't remember. 
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Feline with squirel personality disorder
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Mountains
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| Re: I rarely get spam on Gmail They might have guessed it. Now let's assume my name is John Doe. I wonder why john.doe@gmail.com is infested, and not john_doe@yahoo.fr, which is my main address.
Maybe email generators aren't clever enough to handle the underscore, or domains that end in something else than .com
And regarding pr0n outfits, I always sign up as "Unotgonnaget@myemail.com", or something similar 
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join:2000-10-05
Collegeville, PA
| Re: I rarely get spam on Gmail said by LilYoda :Maybe email generators aren't clever enough to handle the underscore, or domains that end in something else than .com Yep, that last is probably it. No one said spammers are thorough. | |
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Premium,MVM
join:2001-02-14
San Jose, CA
·Pacific Bell - SBC
| I just checked my Gmail account "Spam" folder:
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Hooray, no spam here!
The only time I saw a wad of spam in that folder was when I was forwarding one of my 'pacbell.net' sub accounts to the Gmail account. I can't recall why I was doing it; testing something, or other. But it isn't my normal M.O.
BTW, all of that 'pacbell.net' spam normally ends up in the "Bulk" folder of that account.
Did you ever send email from that Gmail account to a friend, or relative?
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LilYoda
Feline with squirel personality disorder
Premium
join:2004-09-02
Mountains | Re: I rarely get spam on Gmail Nope, never sent an email with it, never put it anywhere on any website.
Weird  | |
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gitmo_bush
join:2002-04-09
Fresno, CA | Don't I know it Most of my emails are spam, nothing but dang death threats! | |
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Dnepr
join:2001-11-28
Tarpon Springs, FL |  spam spams spam
I wonder who in the world even reads spam and even worse buys anything from it... How stupid does one have to be? | |
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St. John 3.16
join:2005-12-15
Forest Grove, OR
 ·Verizon FIOS
·Comcast
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December 12th, @12:29PM
| Re: spam spams spamI always get a good laugh every time I hear a politician say Americans are not stupid, are smart, get it, not gullible, etc.
Clearly most Americans are extraordinarily stupid, gullible, and do not get it.
Verizon blocks a ton of SPAM for me and the very few that do get though are caught by my email client rules. So to all you out there paying SPAMMERS, you are not getting too me.
Same goes for the domains I operate. You are not getting to us.
Project Honey Pot: »ProjectHoneyPot.org/
SPAM Bot Poison (fight back): »SPAM Bot Poison (fight back)
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MVM
join:2003-11-04
Santa Rosa, CA
| Re: spam spams spam said by N O Y B :I always get a good laugh every time I here a politician say Americans are not stupid... ... you'd have to be STUPID to vote for him...and HE got elected!
My current Sendmail setup issues REJECTs to 98.5% of all spam that is sent its way... I've had only two "false positives" in the four years I've been set up the way I am now.
Next step, if to have a little "fun", and write a milter that TARPITS a spamming machine whilst it's still connected.
Since most "Hormel-esque" email today is sent from "zombies", an automated or semi-auto "spam in progress" notifier (to the uplevel ISP) could make it an "Instant death upon spamming me" deal, if I could tie up the sending box long enough...
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aaron8301
I can't get myself to go away.
join:2005-01-03
Clarkston, WA
·CableOne
| Re: spam spams spam said by DOStradamus :said by N O Y B :I always get a good laugh every time I here a politician say Americans are not stupid... ... you'd have to be STUPID to vote for him...and HE got elected! Who is this "HE" you speak of? N O Y B referred to "a politician," not anyone, male or female, in particular.
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join:2003-08-09
Lake Zurich, IL
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| Not really -- your plan is based on the upstream ISP actually giving a damn about zombie machines. Ever tried to contact someone at Comcast or another large ISP's abuse desk? Good luck.
Also, lots of spam bots don't follow RFCs and won't bother retrying an address that fails for any reason, hard or soft. Greylisting has addressed this pretty well, kind of. | |
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Premium,MVM
join:2000-10-28 | Re: spam spams spam Damn, and I was going to say the same thing.
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cableties
Premium
join:2005-01-27
Levittown, PA
| Failure of the Gubbernment CANSPAM is a joke. Wait, I'll go as far as state, our government legislative system is a joke. What good is an act if nothing is done about it?
Wait, I see. They created this act for those that send spam. Nice. Would you like a Rolex with that \/iagr4 at 72% OFF !!
Remember, she likes a big member!
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It Is Almost Fast
join:2001-06-25
Sacramento, CA
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| Re: Failure of the Gubbernment said by cableties :CANSPAM is a joke. Wait, I'll go as far as state, our government legislative system is a joke. What good is an act if nothing is done about it? Wait, I see. They created this act for those that send spam. Nice. Would you like a Rolex with that \/iagr4 at 72% OFF !! Remember, she likes a big member! \/iagr4 at 72% OFF !! --- what? only 72%?? Hah beat ya, mine are always 74% off. hahahaha stupid spam.
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got ping?
join:2006-01-24
New Albany, IN | Re: Spam for Breakfast ! Still funny after all these years. | |
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join:2004-10-05
Titusville, FL
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St. John 3.16
join:2005-12-15
Forest Grove, OR | SPAM is Internet Terrorism
Perpetrators should be classified as enemy combatants and water-boarded one second for every SPAM sent.
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join:2005-09-28
00000 | 10% of that is from Barracuda boxes. Nothing annoys me more than to get bounce back messages from Barracuda boxes. They read the spam and bounce messages back to the forged reply to address. | |
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Obama '08
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join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
·North State Commun..
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| Re: 10% of that is from Barracuda boxes. said by battleop :Nothing annoys me more than to get bounce back messages from Barracuda boxes. They read the spam and bounce messages back to the forged reply to address. Don't blame Barracuda, blame the admin who configure them. That option has to be ENABLED by the admin.
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join:2003-04-07
Northridge, CA | great! I love spam... i really do | |
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Jason Levine
Premium
join:2001-07-13
Albany, NY
| Broken Spam Filter Usually, I don't see too much spam here at work because our Spam filters are very good. One Monday morning not too long ago, though, I signed in and checked my e-mail. I was surprised to see about 700 messages. Turns out that the spam filter had broken over the weekend and wound up letting everything through. It was fixed quickly, but it served as a good reminder to everyone in the organization just how necessary a good spam filter is for businesses. | |
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join:2003-08-09
Lake Zurich, IL
·ViaTalk
| Re: Broken Spam Filter When management complains that 3 or 4 messages slipped past the filters, I always tell them I'm taking down the filtering program to upgrade/tweak/repair/whatever. Usually after 2 days of complete bombardment, they understand what the percentages on the reports REALLY mean, and stop complaining about a few misses.
This lasts for about 6 months. | |
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join:2004-03-17
South Portland, ME | Re: Broken Spam Filter Maybe you need to tell them that a few passing through the filters are unavoidable unless they're willing to put up with false positives and the lost mail because of them. | |
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I can't get myself to go away.
join:2005-01-03
Clarkston, WA
·CableOne
| said by Jason Levine :It was fixed quickly, but it served as a good reminder to everyone in the organization just how necessary a good spam filter is for businesses everyone.
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Wal-Mart Sucks
join:2001-01-09
Novi, MI | We need government intervention There has to be a way to combat this. In all reality the internet is in its infancy. This problem I bet will be relegated to the past eventually, but for now the email system is a complete disaster because of a handful of assholes. | |
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I can't get myself to go away.
join:2005-01-03
Clarkston, WA
·CableOne
| Re: We need government intervention said by Jon Geb :In all reality the internet is in its infancy. People have been saying that for over 20 years, when it truly was an infant. But unless you can predict the future, there's no way to know what stage in it's life the internet is. It doesn't have a defined lifespan like a human.
And we've never had one before to base a prediction off of, so as far as we know, the internet as we know it MAY be an infant; hell, it may simply last forever, meaning it has no life-like stages at all. However, with the ever-growing need for bandwidth greatly surpassing the physical growth of the internet, it may collapse in a decade or so, and we'll look back and say "gee, we were lucky to have internet in 2007 - it was almost dead by then!"
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Save ISPs Money
@rr.com
| Re: We need government intervention You would think ISP would want to do more, it would actualy pay for it's self in the cost savings (a guess on my part). Think about it, every ISP has to pay for the bandwith they get from L3, sprint link, ect.. And in that trafic, is spam, taking up bandwith that could be used for beter (lower) latency, faster upload/download speeds. And then there is the storage costs. That spam email needs to rest on a mail server somewhere in that ISP network, taking up space that could be offered to subs for larger mailbox storage, ect...
Of couse i can see these things as i dont work/run these companies, and also have commond sense! | |
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| said by Jon Geb :There has to be a way to combat this. In all reality the internet is in its infancy. This problem I bet will be relegated to the past eventually, but for now the email system is a complete disaster because of a handful of assholes. Well those very same "assholes" seem to have been very "influential" when it came time to pass legislation to combat the problem they themselves created, weren't they? I seem to recall that there were some pretty loud complaints that CAN-SPAM was pretty much stillborn in terms of effectiveness.
If you're claiming we need "government intervention" to solve this problem, that's what the CAN-SPAM Act was.
And like most attempts to Legislate the Bad Things Away, it hasn't quite worked out.
(I hear they're going to try to do something about the prevalence of drugs in the US next.) | |
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gatorkram
Spelling and Grammer impared
Premium
join:2002-07-22
Winterville, NC
clubs: | Fix it Why don't they just knock all the offending IPs off the net? | |
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join:2003-08-09
Lake Zurich, IL | Re: Fix it DHCP? | |
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nemoslats
join:2005-05-03
Cary, IL | Block the Stuff Already . What a waste Why can't the spammers be blocked at the source?? Then it would not go out to the internet but have the ISP's have a Spam filter on out going mail?? Turn the picture around and block from sending email Spam? | |
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In Deo speramus
Premium
join:2001-08-25
Kendall, FL
·Comcast
·AT&T Southeast
| Re: Block the Stuff Already . What a waste said by nemoslats :Why can't the spammers be blocked at the source?? Then it would not go out to the internet but have the ISP's have a Spam filter on out going mail?? Turn the picture around and block from sending email Spam? It's difficult to stop spam at the source when it originates in a country that is either too poor to concern themselves about regulating the ISPs in the area, or simply don't care. | |
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Swingerhead
Premium
join:2004-04-06
Richmond, VA
·Verizon FIOS
·Comcast
| Having to check my spam folder for legit emails is my gripe Spam filters work fine for me filtering out spam. Problem is when they filer out something good. You still have to check your spam folder every few days to ensure there isnt something good in there. Ive greelighted all my friends and family but occasionaly it will still chuck a legit email in the spam folder. Using hotmail | |
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join:2006-11-26
Windsor, ON
·Cogeco Cable
| Re: Having to check my spam folder for legit emails is my gripe Hotmail sucks. Lots of spam. I stopped using it. Gmail is a lot better. Heck even Yahoo is better. Another one that is really good is myway. But yes, I have the same gripe. Especially when you have a LOT of spam in the spam folder that you must go through just to find a legit email. Especially when you really HAVE to find THAT particular email. Like when you join some group or forum and need to activate an account and can only do so through that email .. and you never got it and suspect it is in your spam folder .. and you have over a few hundred to check through .. grr!! lol  | |
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| Re: the purpose of spam? said by kd6cae :For some time, I've been trying to figure out the reasoning behind why Spammers do what they do, and I can't find a logical reason for so much spam being out there. I'm certainly not interested in any viagra or crap like that that's all spam seems to be. Spam is little different than Direct Mail in terms of the anticipated response. What I mean is: people who conduct a Direct Mail (junk snail mail) campaign don't expect more than a one-or-two percent response to what they send out (i.e one or two replies for every *hundred* envelopes they mail out).
But even with all the expenses involved in printing and postage, that meager-looking one-or-two percent response rate makes for a profitable enterprise.
The attraction of spam is that all of the overhead associated with printing and postage is done away with. To say nothing of a greater reach via dictionary attacks.
And, no, I'm not saying that I endorse this. I'm just telling you that those Viagra and "boost your equipment" mails aren't necessarily directed at you, but at the one (maybe two) guy(s) out of 100 who *do* respond to that kind of crap. | |
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join:2002-09-27
Belleville, WI | Nothing new And we are suprised by this? I expected 98%+ | |
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woody7
Premium
join:2000-10-13
Torrance, CA | hmmmm..... filtering and blocking is fine, but we need to stop it, beheading sounds good to me. I still believe if the ISP's really wanted it to go away, it would.Peace
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sbillis
join:2001-04-02
UK
| 95% way too low! Our mail scanners reject 80% of all connections to them due to the ip issues and then of the remaining 20% of the connections that we allow mail from, we trash more than 99% of the mail. We spend $$$$$ on anti-spam tools and huge amounts of time. I would love to be able to spend that money and time doing better things. | |
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N O Y B
St. John 3.16
join:2005-12-15
Forest Grove, OR
·Verizon FIOS
·Comcast
| Re: 95% way too low!This is what makes SPAM Internet Terrorism. It is an attack on the economics of the internet to reduce associated productivity gains, usefulness, and technology advancement.
The perpetrators should be classified as enemy combatants and water-boarded one second for every SPAM sent.
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@comcast.net
| Re: 95% way too low! I have been saying this for years.
People want the spam problem to "go away" but it's not
going to go away. I've been laughed at, had my ideas called
stupid, impractical or outright foolish.
Let's see what comments come this time:
Idea 1: Authenticate/challenge.
Know those graphics characters you sometimes have to type
in when you post? They're all wavey, tilted and twisted to
keep computer software from recognizing them but they are
recognizable by a human being. Having to enter 4 or 5
numbers each time you want to send a message would be a bit
of an inconvenience, but I'm sure people would get used to
it in time, and it only takes a second or two.
Idea 2: Email Address Verification/Authenticate/Challenge.
Since most spam is sent from spoofed email addresses how
about something like this?
Receiving server to sending server:
I just got a message from "me@yourisp.com" do you have this
email address?
Sending server to receiving server:
If Reply = "NO"
Dump Message and all future messages from that address
for one calendar month. This cuts down on server requests.
This also gives the email address a chance to be used by
someone real instead of a spambot.
else
Deliver Message.
End If
Couple both ideas together and not only do you decrease the
overall amount of bandwidth used by the internet, it makes
it almost impossible for spam to get through since there
are two tests that have to be passed.
My third and most unpopular idea was to whitelist your
addressbook. Not in the addressbook? Message doesn't get
delivered.
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