Senior Accidentally Overpays Comcast, Can't Get Money Back Company Initially Only Offers 8.5 Year Credit Tipped by newview 
The Consumerist directs our attention to this story of an 86 year old man who accidentally sent Comcast a $6453 payment because he screwed up the placement of a decimal point for a payment of $64.53. After he contacted Comcast looking to get his money back, Comcast stated that the only thing they could do would be to credit his account -- meaning he'd be paid up until he was 94 years old (assuming he lived that long). As is usually the case it took media involvement for the charges to be reversed, Comcast issuing a full refund once they were contacted by Pensacola CBS affiliate WKRG 5. As the Consumerist notes, if Comcast had been the one to send funds the customer's way, the speed of the pursuit of those funds would likely rattle the windows.
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 newviewEx .. Ex .. ExactlyPremium join:2001-10-01 Parsonsburg, MD kudos:1 | Typical Why does it always take the glare of the media spotlight for Comcast to do the right thing? | |
|  |  BF69Premium join:2004-07-28 Camden, TN | Re: Typical said by newview:Why does it always take the glare of the media spotlight for Comcast to do the right thing? why do the right thing if you can get away with doing the wrong thing? | |
|  |  |  2 edits | Re: TypicalThis is total incompetence on Comcast's part for not being tell that it was an honest mistake. Granted, most companies now a days want to just give a credit, which is stupid in itself, but when you have to go through major changes to get issue rectified, that definitely shows there's a problem with the system that needs to be fixed. -- The Firefox alternative. »www.mozilla.org/projects/seamonkey/ | |
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| Re: Typical said by cork1958:Granted, most companies now a days want to just give a credit, which is stupid in itself Well, not to defend Comcast, but there are two issues at play here:
1) A lower level employee may be able to issue a refund for a few hundred bucks, but when you're talking about four digits the accounting folks will need to get involved. Nobody in a customer service call center is going to have the authority to issue a check for thousands of dollars.
2) The refusal to give a credit in this instance most likely came from a low level employee who was too stupid/scared to apply basic common sense. He has a flowchart, this situation is not on the flowchart, so he's going to do the safest thing, i.e., nothing.
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|  |  |  |  |  John GaltForward, MarchPremium join:2004-09-30 Happy Camp kudos:5 | Re: Typical And never attribute to stupidity that which can be attributed to greed... | |
|  |  |  |  |  |  MaxoYour tax dollars at work.Premium,VIP join:2002-11-04 Tallahassee, FL | Re: Typical said by John Galt:And never attribute to stupidity that which can be attributed to greed... The rule here seems to attribute everything to the falling sky regardless. If someone can be blamed and belittled, do it. | |
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| Re: Typical No, I believe that Comcast, like most large corporations, is staffed with a significant number of poorly trained people who are afraid to take initiative. Combine that with the bureaucracy inherent to any large organization, and it's easy to see how this could have happened. Nothing in this story implies malice on the part of Comcast. | |
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 |  |  |  |  | | said by Crookshanks:Well, not to defend Comcast, but there are two issues at play here:
1) A lower level employee may be able to issue a refund for a few hundred bucks, but when you're talking about four digits the accounting folks will need to get involved. Nobody in a customer service call center is going to have the authority to issue a check for thousands of dollars.
2) The refusal to give a credit in this instance most likely came from a low level employee who was too stupid/scared to apply basic common sense. He has a flowchart, this situation is not on the flowchart, so he's going to do the safest thing, i.e., nothing.
Never attribute to malice that which can be attributed to stupidity. If either of the above were the case, then lower level idiot (a viable term here) should have escalated the matter.
Anyone with a single brain cell knew this would go to the press and force Comcast's hand. | |
|  |  |  |  |  |  MaxoYour tax dollars at work.Premium,VIP join:2002-11-04 Tallahassee, FL | Re: Typical said by moonpuppy:Anyone with a single brain cell knew this would go to the press and force Comcast's hand. Then you've never worked in a call center. Customers call in all the time that are upset, pissed, belligerent, threatening, etc. Sometimes the customer's demeanor is justified, other times it's not. Either way, as a customer support rep, you are not always empowered to help the customer, or may not have received the proper training to help the customer. The same goes for the people who are part of the chain of escalation at call centers. Certainly the customer did not receive the level of customer service that he obviously should have, however that does not directly indicate that the lower level person is the one who failed. Without recordings of the call(s) he made we simply have no way of knowing. -- "Padre, nobody said war was fun now bowl!" - Sherman T Potter
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|  |  |  |  |  |  |  | | Re: Typical said by Maxo:Then you've never worked in a call center. Customers call in all the time that are upset, pissed, belligerent, threatening, etc. Sometimes the customer's demeanor is justified, other times it's not. Either way, as a customer support rep, you are not always empowered to help the customer, or may not have received the proper training to help the customer. The same goes for the people who are part of the chain of escalation at call centers. Certainly the customer did not receive the level of customer service that he obviously should have, however that does not directly indicate that the lower level person is the one who failed. Without recordings of the call(s) he made we simply have no way of knowing. I never worked in a call center? WRONG! Thanks for playing.
And yes, I have been threatened multiple times in the course of my job and yet, I am still employed. When I had a certain situation pop up, I told my supervisor what was going on and prepared him for the onslaught. It came less than a minute later and he sided with me causing headaches for the caller.
And as for those recordings, they are BS. If a customer berated one of my CSR people, I would immediately copy that tape and save it for further use up to cancelling the customer's account for abuse. But, it never happens. Maybe customers should record their conversations with CSRs and see how badly they perform.
Again, a difference of a few cents is not a big issue. Even a $50 difference is not big deal. However, a 100x difference should have set off a red flag immediately.
No, the customer did not receive the level of customer service that he obviously should have and rarely do they ever get that type of service. | |
|  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  MaxoYour tax dollars at work.Premium,VIP join:2002-11-04 Tallahassee, FL | Re: Typical said by moonpuppy:No, the customer did not receive the level of customer service that he obviously should have and rarely do they ever get that type of service. You are creating a straw man here. It is obvious that the customer did not receive the proper resolution through traditional channels, which is not acceptable. If you have worked in a call center then you know that this may or may not be the fault of the rep(s) that took the call. Too often the reps that take the calls are simply not empowered to help customers in the way that the customers deserve. All that person can do is escalate, and at that point it is out of his or her hands. -- "Padre, nobody said war was fun now bowl!" - Sherman T Potter
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|  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | | Re: Typical said by Maxo:You are creating a straw man here. It is obvious that the customer did not receive the proper resolution through traditional channels, which is not acceptable. If you have worked in a call center then you know that this may or may not be the fault of the rep(s) that took the call. Too often the reps that take the calls are simply not empowered to help customers in the way that the customers deserve. All that person can do is escalate, and at that point it is out of his or her hands. No, there is no strawman. The fact is that the CSR did not do their job and neither did ANYONE up the entire chain. Your line of "It is obvious that the customer did not receive the proper resolution through traditional channels, which is not acceptable" is BS because these types of issues happen day after day and do not get fixed.
If customer support was such an important goal, then why did it take a TV station to embarrass Comcast into doing the refund? If a customer complains and no TV station reports it, is it a problem?
Comcast can apologize all they want but it still does not change the fact they screwed up royally and will continue to do so because it is financially beneficial to them. | |
|  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  MaxoYour tax dollars at work.Premium,VIP join:2002-11-04 Tallahassee, FL | Re: Typical Then you don't understand the strawman. You argued the first level rep that took the call is an idiot. I argued that there is no reason to say with certainty that the first-level rep is to blame. Then you started arguing a bunch of other things, but you stopped arguing it was the first level reps fault. That's how a strawman works. You stop arguing your original point and pick a new one. -- "Padre, nobody said war was fun now bowl!" - Sherman T Potter
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|  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | | Re: Typical said by Maxo:Then you don't understand the strawman. You argued the first level rep that took the call is an idiot. I argued that there is no reason to say with certainty that the first-level rep is to blame. Then you started arguing a bunch of other things, but you stopped arguing it was the first level reps fault. That's how a strawman works. You stop arguing your original point and pick a new one. Sorry, but you are wrong. We have NO indication this CSR did anything but read off a script. He blew off the customer. And Comcast needs to take the blame for all of it. Even someone in billing should have seen this but they chose to ignore it. This is a failure of of everyone from the front line reps to the supervisors to billing and all the way up. Again, why did it take a TV station calling to make the refund? Because the entire chain thought this would go away and not be the PR disaster it became.
Keep defending the indefensible. | |
|  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  MaxoYour tax dollars at work.Premium,VIP join:2002-11-04 Tallahassee, FL | Re: Typical said by moonpuppy:Keep defending the indefensible. Keep assuming. It makes you look smart. | |
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| Next time read the story before trying to defend comcrap for incompetence
Even after WKRG got involved, it still took a visit to the local Comcast depot, "several phone calls, and seven hours" before someone finally made a decision that makes any sense. | |
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 |  | | In all fairness to Comcast, they probably don't have a very good mechanism to provide refunds for over-payment to customers who aren't canceling their service - it doesn't happen at this level very often. They were offering credit to the account because that's all the system is set up to do. I'm no Comcast fan, but I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt on this one. | |
|  |  |  MaxoYour tax dollars at work.Premium,VIP join:2002-11-04 Tallahassee, FL | Re: Typical said by mdlund0:In all fairness to Comcast, they probably don't have a very good mechanism to provide refunds for over-payment to customers who aren't canceling their service - it doesn't happen at this level very often. They were offering credit to the account because that's all the system is set up to do. I'm no Comcast fan, but I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt on this one. I would tend to agree, but the person at customer service who took the call should have recognized the gravity of the situation and pushed it up. It should have continued to be pushed up until a proper resolution was reached. One major issue with today's call centers is that they are usually outsource and staffed with people who do not have any authority to perform tasks outside of a little box. Since the people with authority to handle outlying situations like this are so far removed from customer support, the problem never reaches them, and the customer ends up shafted. -- "Padre, nobody said war was fun now bowl!" - Sherman T Potter
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| Re: Typical That in general is the way that anything service works today. Its a don't stray from the script, don't offer anything, if the customer wants to escalate, don't make it easy.
Customer support is effectively 2 services: 1. Customer 'service' 2. Cost savings/damage control through process
Problem with #2, is that the people performing the tasks are forced into a corner for what they can/cannot do, and if its something that is not listed, they have to escalate, or give a generic response. | |
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|  |  |  veloslaveGeek For GodPremium join:2003-07-11 Pleasant Hill, CA | said by mdlund0:In all fairness to Comcast, they probably don't have a very good mechanism to provide refunds for over-payment to customers who aren't canceling their service - it doesn't happen at this level very often. They were offering credit to the account because that's all the system is set up to do. I'm no Comcast fan, but I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt on this one. GULP
REALLY?
One of the largest companies in the freaking world... and they cannot be expected to foresee a mistake made in the payment system? Not even be expected to
Horse doo doo...
It is as simple as doing what is right, and they thought they could get away with it since nobody wanted to bother with figuring it out on how to do it right. Thee is a reason why they have the lowest customer satisfaction ratings... right there with att...
because they don't give a damn about their customers.
They damn near have a legal monopoly which enables them to say "screw it... where else will they go?"
Comcrap sucks PERIOD and that is all there is to it... this time they got caught being themselves. -- Mom was right.... I NEED fiber! | |
|  |  |  HankSearching for a new FrontierPremium join:2002-05-21 Burlington, WV kudos:1 | This in "In all fairness" mind set is why this country is in real trouble. They may not have a good mechanism, but it obviously did not take to much effort when the media got involved to correct the situation which is something Comcast should have done without the media involvement. | |
|  |  |  iknowPremium join:2012-03-25 | said by mdlund0:In all fairness to Comcast, they probably don't have a very good mechanism to provide refunds for over-payment to customers who aren't canceling their service - it doesn't happen at this level very often. They were offering credit to the account because that's all the system is set up to do. I'm no Comcast fan, but I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt on this one. that don't matter, comcast either attempted theft or conversion. »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conversion_(law) by doing what they did. the money was NEVER theirs, and they don't have the right to dictate how they will give the money back. just giving credit is not giving the money back that they NEVER owned in the first place. no matter how screwed up their system may be, they have an obligation to do the legal thing, and make sure the MONEY is refunded, and not have to be pressured to do it. i'll bet the legal team heard about this, and said "we have to give the money back" and that's right. | |
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 |  maartenaElmoPremium join:2002-05-10 Orange, CA kudos:1 | said by newview:Why does it always take the glare of the media spotlight for Comcast to do the right thing? That goes for any company really. The problem is that CSR's aren't trained for scenario's that fall out of their playbook. If someone accidentally pays the same bill twice, pretty much no one would complain about the standard treatment: credit the bill for next month.
This is where supervisors come in, that SHOULD be trained to make decissions on out-of-playbook scenarios, but the reality is that these supervisors are often no more than the senior CSR that was just upgraded to "supervisor" status because he/she has been there the longest. They aren't really given a whole lot more powers, and definitly not the power to give back thousands of dollars, even though it was an honest mistake.
It's the same thing with Comcast - or again, ANY big company - trying to get money out of customers who just lost their house in a fire. Comcast should KNOW that the home owner's insurance will pay back the money for lost equipment eventually, just hold back until then. Don't go haunting customers who just lost everything they owned.
Charter CSR's actually told a customer that had lost her house to a tornado in Alabama to actually "look around the neighborhood" for the cablebox. Can you imagine the scenario? 150+ houses completely demolished and spread over 10 square miles, and you have to search for your broken cable box?
Point and case: CSR's are STUPID when it comes to out-of-playbook scenarios. They just don't know what to do with these 0.01% of calls they get. Big companies should setup a special desk that deals with nothing but special cases. -- "I reject your reality and substitute my own!" | |
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1 edit | I cannot stand Concast and how they treat their customers and employees, derive their revenue (i.e. a monopoly), and operate their organization.
I had a billing error and it took over 6 months to resolve. Whereas, most developed countries have consumer protection agencies, including their own FCC that handles billing issues. Basically, the carrier is fined from the get-go, whenever they fail to fix an issue.
As the issue goes unsolved and is escalated to various levels, the fines increase, well into the thousands for the carrier. Therefore, it's in their best interest to fix this quick-smart. | |
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 |  Dude111An Awesome DudePremium join:2003-08-04 USA kudos:11 | Because they (As well as most) think they can take advantage of the elderly.......
Im glad they got the matter taken care of! | |
|  |  | | said by newview:Why does it always take the glare of the media spotlight for Comcast to do the right thing? Because doing the right thing is hard even though it is infinitely easier to do. | |
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 | | Can being shady be part of a company's business plan? Because as bad as the landline companies were at their height I don't remember them being anywhere as bad as Comcast is. And this is just based on my personal experiences. Not just because the Internet allows news like this to circulate more than it would have in the past. Though I still have Comcast so I'm part of the problem.
I wonder if the local NBC affiliate picked up on this. | |
|  | | happens all the time- 100's of times a day
This man spoke to an idiot. This happens all the time and usually funds are returned in 3-5 business days if credit card and if transaction was eft then can take 2 weeks since subs are given credit right away but it takes a while to actually clear bank. My guess that daughter never actually got to a Comcast rep. but third party (Convergys,Transcom etc..) and they just didn't give a hoot. Everyone who handled that call should be pulled off phone and retrained. | |
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| Seams to me the Man already had the 8.5 year credit.. Once the payment was credited to his account, the overage was already on the account.. Unless Comcast intended on crediting only a fraction amount and stealing the rest??
Thus the CS rep offered nothing, nada, el-zippo..
Comcast only acted after Channel 5 was going to run a story about them.
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|  intellerSociopaths always win. join:2003-12-08 Tulsa, OK | with the way comcast raises rates This guy's credit would have only lasted a few years anyways. -- "WHEN THE LAUGH TRACK STARTS THEN THE FUN STARTS!" | |
|  DrDataPremium join:2004-12-31 Longwood, FL | Pathetic Pathetic Comcast, just absolutely pathetic. | |
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|  Mr Matt join:2008-01-29 Eustis, FL kudos:1 Reviews:
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| Two faced legal system! Face #1: The most disturbing thing about this case, is if the customer went to the police, in an effort to get a refund they would be told it was a civil matter and to call a lawyer.
Face #2: Several years ago a customer was sent a refund check that was many times the correct amount of the refund, like $40,000.00 instead of $40.00. The company took several weeks or months to find the error. By that time the customer had spent the money. The company that overpaid the refund filed a complaint for criminal theft and had the customer arrested. The customer was not given the option of paying off overpayment over several years. The company demanded an immediate refund of the overpayment.
Our legal system sucks. Corporations are given privileges that ordinary citizens are not. I also blame the bank because it's on line payment system did not require the customer enter a decimal point before processing the transaction. | |
|  MadnessLike a flea circus at a dog show join:2000-01-05 Quincy, MA kudos:1 Reviews:
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| Check? It doesn't say how he payed, but I'm assuming it was by check. So even if he left out the decimal point in the digits box, wouldn't he have had to write it out (i.e. Six Thousand, Fifty-Three & 00/100) in order for Comcast to cash it for that?  | |
|  |  |  |  | | Reports shows a check image highlighted in yellow. This looks like sub paid thru his bank's online bill pay service. Most bank when a payment is made for more than 2500.00 thru bill pay will cut a check. This looks like a check was sent to Comcast's lockbox. Now since a physical check was sent all the sub needed to do is provide proof that money had cleared his account to Comcast and Comcast at local level would put in for a refund check to be sent to sub. That process can take up to two weeks since a check for 6k will need to be signed off on by some higher ups at regional office.
Now that doesn'tmean that sub and his daughter didn't talk to idiots who had no idea how to handle calls of this type.
You want your money back,the absolute fastest way is to pay via credit card in case there are any screw ups. Refunds are processed quicker and if company gives you any hassles you can do a chargeback.
And never do autopay of any sort with a debit card, by the time they fix any mistake you might get hit with all types of bank fees. On the hate to do business list usually banks and cable companies are jockeying for 1st. | |
|  |  | | He made the mistake while using his banks bill-pay website. I have almost done the same thing before. | |
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 | | Written Amount Wondering what he had written in the written-amount area of his check, "Sixty-Four and 53/100 dollars?" | |
|  | | Idiotic Just a staggering lack of competence on the part of all of the Comcast reps involved. This is not a Comcast issue per se, as all large companies have processes in place for the refunding of overpayments. This is just laziness and ignorance on the part of the reps, which I must say could have been exacerbated by the corporate culture of the office they worked in. Some call centers place a premium on calls handled, rather then resolving the actual issue, which of course is reprehensible. -- Jay: What the @#$% is the internet??? | |
|  linicxCaveat EmptorPremium join:2002-12-03 United State Reviews:
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| This is not new. Money games are not new. For every day they kept the $6K Comcast earned the interest which was not returned. It would have cost Comcast a great deal more IF it had gone to court.
Sunshine and spotlights are the only thing available to the taxpayer to expose bad deeds. FCC Complaints are pretty good a at exposing bad deeds too.
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|  |  | | Re: This is not new. It's just hilarous. Banks have federal rules in place to prevent this from happening, maybe its time to bring that same scrutiny to the rest of the private sector | |
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| Re: This is not new. There is different levels of banking. Some have federal oversight and some have state oversight. Credit Union are different than banks, and even then they have different levels of oversight.
I opened a checking and savings at "state" bank with the idea of moving SS to it because it was closer to home. I never did but I made regular deposits to the saving account. I didn't pay any attention to checking statements I didn't write any checks. Two months later I found MY checking account was being used by a stranger to deposit and write checks. ??? I called the main bank and talked to the CFO who did absolutely nothing. When I closed the account the teller what SHE should do with the money in it? WTF? I'd been telling her for 30min it wasn't mine. I couldn't get out fast enough.
I had money in a credit union for years. When I found a $10K "gift" I immediately called. It was removed while we talked. There was a one digit difference in the account numbers. -- Mac: No windows, No Gates, Apple inside | |
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 | | must vary by area. Here in greater boston Comcast will send you a refund check at any time . You just have to call them. Takes 2-4 weeks. I've had it done once and a relative did also. | |
|  MPScanPremium join:2001-08-24 Boston, MA | Sad Reminds me of one morning about five years ago when I logged into my bank and found my paycheck direct deposit as usual .... alongside another paycheck direct deposit from Oracle Corporation.
Whoever that person was, they made a lot more than me.
It took me a month of going through dozens of phone calls to even get someone to start to take action. If someone asked me one more time "Are you sure you don't work at Oracle?" I was going to lose it. -- When judgment day comes, I'm confident I will end up in a place that's quite comfortable, very well deserved, and truly reflects how I strive to live my life. It's amusing certain groups feel the need to tell me their place will be better than mine. | |
|  |  pokesphIt Is Almost FastPremium join:2001-06-25 Sacramento, CA kudos:1 | Re: Sad said by MPScan:Reminds me of one morning about five years ago when I logged into my bank and found my paycheck direct deposit as usual .... alongside another paycheck direct deposit from Oracle Corporation.
Whoever that person was, they made a lot more than me. .. Collect $5,000.00 Bank error in your favor. -- Webmaster - Steve - - - - - - - - - - - - »www.1-gb.net »www.ppnstudio.com | |
|  |  |  MPScanPremium join:2001-08-24 Boston, MA | Re: Sad said by pokesph:Collect $5,000.00 Bank error in your favor. I thought about it, but knew someone would eventually come looking and like the story and comments state, when you spend a bank error, it's criminal.
It was $9k. Whoever it was made north of $300k/yr.  -- When judgment day comes, I'm confident I will end up in a place that's quite comfortable, very well deserved, and truly reflects how I strive to live my life. It's amusing certain groups feel the need to tell me their place will be better than mine. | |
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 | | Opened my eyes! I have about 1 year of credit built up on all my services, Cable TV for high speed internet, Cell phone, and power I do it because I leave town for months at a time and also worried down the road I may not have the money but this opened my eyes to maybe get a month or 2 ahead instead of a year so I don't get screwed like this guy. | |
|  |  |  jp10558Premium join:2005-06-24 Willseyville, NY | Re: Bad systems I disagree. 1) COMCAST doesn't necessarily know it's a massive overpayment until it's applying the funds, and then, why should they care if someone wants to pre-pay 8.5 years of service? They certainly don't know how old their customers are (well, maybe they do, but it's not expected).
They should have a better system for dealing with these situations, but refusing to take certain sized payments leads to all sorts of issues - I'm thinking of the gas pumps that stop at $75 around where I live - probably made sense back when gas was $2 a gallon, but now many pickup trucks *can't fill up their tank* on one pass. I.e. - what seems like a large dollar amount today may not be one in 10 years, and these sorts of settings often get forgotten. Also, it would require having totally separate business / residential systems for check acceptance - maybe they do now, but if not, it doesn't make a lot of sense to spend that sort of money on a 0.001% of the time occurrence prevention system.
2) Why not? He has to keep it somewhere... unless you're suggesting his mattress. Or railing against Online Banking, but really - he may not be that mobile, so Online Banking is a lot better than having to truck to some local bank, perhaps with far less useful benefits or account rules than some online banks. If you're saying he shouldn't have $6k in an electronically accessible account - that just seems Luddite to me... all banks do ACH that I know of. -- Opera 11.1; Windows XP Pro SP3;Intel C2Q6600; 3GB DDR2 1066; 1M/128k DSL; Comodo Internet Security 5.3;Proxomitron 4.5j Sidki 2009-06-06,GPG ID:0x0A1C6EE3 | |
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| Lol. It seems like Comcast always is involved with news like this... Sounds like Comcast needs to retrain its staff on customer service and these kinds of issues. It doesn't take a genius to know that doing the right thing is the right thing to do in this circumstance, and in any circumstances. Glad the man got his money back, it shouldn't have required the help of a news outlet to get this issue solved. | |
|  rradina join:2000-08-08 Chesterfield, MO | Uncle! I've read opinions ranging from Comcast/the bank should have detected and prevented the overpayment to conspiracy theories about banks making big money by holding Social Security payments. (Whether or not they do or don't just isn't relevant)
Uncle!
The customer made an incorrect payment. It's simply not reasonable to expect that his bank, Comcast, the Federal Reserve or, *chuckle*, Social Security would have any procedure in place to prevent or even notice the over payment. I recently wrote a down payment check for $10,000 on a new car and another for nearly $3,000 to pay the sales tax. They flew through the system -- cleared the next day. Not so much as a peep from my bank.
I see two action items
1) If bank web sites don't already have this feature, add a configurable maximum bill pay amount or when the amount is over say, $500, ask the customer to enter the amount twice. However, a configurable limit is probably safer because the customer may have assumed the decimal was automatic like some ATMs/calculators.
2) Comcast owes the public an investigation regarding how this happened and how they plan to improve. It's really offensive that Comcast employs CSRs with such inadequate training/skills that they cannot immediately recognize the amount was an exact exaggeration of the amount due and escalate to someone with the authority to resolve the matter. There's simply no excuse. Things like this don't need to be scripted. If they attempted to script every absurd situation like this, it would take centuries and end up filling a TB hard drive. This is a simple case of empowering CSRs to use just the slightest bit of common sense. It would also go a long way if Comcast issued a public apology to the customer and offered a month or three of free cable to make things right. | |
|  |  alkizmo join:2007-06-25 Pierrefonds, QC kudos:1 | Re: Uncle! said by rradina:If bank web sites don't already have this feature, add a configurable maximum bill pay amount or when the amount is over say, $500, ask the customer to enter the amount twice. However, a configurable limit is probably safer because the customer may have assumed the decimal was automatic like some ATMs/calculators. Bill payments at banks can be reversed even months after they have been executed.
I know because I work at a bank and the I had to learn the grunt work before assuming my position.
Heck I still do it for my clients from time to time, it's faster to do it myself than ask a teller. Though I don't know the real technical aspects behind it, I just send a detailed request to a huge back office and a few days later the client is refunded. It never ever fails (Unless you entered the wrong information in the request submission).
So ya... no need for those safeties. It would be unreasonable to ask programmers to pre-set limits on certain types of bills. 500$ is a lot for TV/Phone/Internet, but very little for a monthly credit card bill. | |
|  |  |  rradina join:2000-08-08 Chesterfield, MO | Re: Uncle! I work on a public web site for a large corporation. It's not unreasonable to allow the customer to set a configurable limit. In fact, it's no trouble at all and would likely pay for itself in mitigating customer service issues before they are issues.
What you describe is a reactive solution to the problem. I suggest a proactive solution and I believe it's a heckuva lot smarter than cleaning a mess after it's been created.
Reversing a payment to a biller might actually cause them to charge you some kind of a processing fee. | |
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 | | simple put the cae should have made supervisor aware and supervisor should put up the chain to get the mans money back does take time there are research forms but cae only has access to credit back around 20.00 max. his/her supervisor can make phone call and email to home office to fix this. | |
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