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Bite My Shiny Metal Ass
Premium,MVM
join:2000-05-24
Cleveland, OH
clubs: | Is this for the 1.5 Mbps package? Is this for the 1.5 Mbps package? If so, are they going to lower the price for the 3.0 Mbps package? | |
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Jon
Premium
join:2001-01-20
Lisle, IL
| Re: Is this for the 1.5 Mbps package? said by trparky  :Is this for the 1.5 Mbps package? If so, are they going to lower the price for the 3.0 Mbps package? No, it's the 384, The 1.5 is $24.
I was just looking on their site.
Still, I think it's time to call covad and either get my fee lowered or it's time to switch  | |
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| | DslTrblShoot
join:2004-09-23 | Re: Is this for the 1.5 Mbps package? SBC no longer offers the up to 384 kbps....it has been grandfathered since April 1st. This price is for the 384-1.5m package. | |
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| | Matthew
Premium,VIP
join:2001-08-03
Emmett, ID
2 edits | said by Jon :
said by trparky :
Is this for the 1.5 Mbps package? If so, are they going to lower the price for the 3.0 Mbps package?
No, it's the 384, The 1.5 is $24.
I was just looking on their site.
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You might want to double check the web page, I am looking at it now to confirm what I was told yesterday which is that the 384 -1536 download by 128-384 upload package is $14.95.
The $24.95 package you see is 1536-3000 download, 384-512 upload. They are both "Up To" packages.
If the link I posted does not work, you may need to select which state you are in and then try again.
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J D McDorce
Premium
join:2001-12-29
Westland, MI | I guess that it depends on how you interpret SBC's advertised bandwidth. $14.95 is for 384kbps-1.5Mpbs sync rate, while $24.99 is for their 1.5Mbps-3.0Mbps sync rate. | |
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Ulxt
@mindspring.com | AOLLLLLLLLLLLLL CAN YOU HEAR THIS..OR CAN YOU HEAD THIS
KILL AOL...PLEASE PLEASE DO IT. THEY ARE STILL CHARGING MY GRANDMOTHER 24.94 FOR STUPIDO DIAL UPPPPPP:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o | |
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Anti_Cyrix
Premium
join:2003-03-06
Sacramento, CA | Re: Is this for the 1.5 Mbps package? said by Ulxt:
THEY ARE STILL CHARGING MY GRANDMOTHER 24.94 Call AOL then. Threaten to cancel. Get free months. | |
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| | mikabl
Premium
join:2002-09-29
Rockford, IL | So, is AOL at fault or your Grandmother for staying with them?  | |
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LinuxJunkie
join:2005-01-19
Cyberspace | Re: Is this for the 1.5 Mbps package? Unfortunately, there are still people like his grandmother who I'm sure believe AOL *is* the Internet. | |
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moonpuppy
join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD
 ·Verizon Online DSL
| Well, this could get ugly....... Let the price wars begin.
And while we are at it, get ready for the DSL and cable companies complaining they can no longer give you proper service (email, newsgroups, webspace, etc.) for that new low price.
Let the bitching proceed......  | |
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VZ IS MOSTLY SUCK
@verizon.net
| Re: Well, this could get ugly....... said by "moonpuppy":
Let the price wars begin.
And while we are at it, get ready for the DSL and cable companies complaining they can no longer give you proper service (email, newsgroups, webspace, etc.) for that new low price.
You mean, like Verizon currently does (or rather, doesn't) provide? And people excuse their lack of proper service, because the price happens to be lower than some of the competition? ("It's ok, I don't mind throwing money away for barely existant services - as long as its less than the competition!") | |
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| | moonpuppy
join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD
·Verizon Online DSL
| Re: Well, this could get ugly....... I have said this for years:
If the telcos could have pushed DSL properly, then they could have killed all other competition in the broadband market. Their failure to do this has resulted in the "quality of service" war now (cable is shared access, DSL is distance sensitive (back and forth.)) | |
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| | Freezone
join:2000-09-29
Southfield, MI | Most people I know preffer service like yahoo mail. Most people do not use webspace or even know how to. And usenet buhahahahahaa. Anyone that is serious about usenet uses a paid service or an isp that cost more than $15. | |
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andrewcool2
join:2005-03-31
San Antonio, TX | Price wars begin Yes finnaly a great price wars | |
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Darkflight
3G Stitch626
join:2001-03-03
Rowland Heights, CA
| Re: Wow Would be nice if they could provide service in the remaining 20% of the service area that they can't and it would be fully viable...
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CO_Chris
Premium
join:2001-08-28
Broomfield, CO | AOL can u hear this AOL can u hear this?? This just nuts 14.95 for DSL and 23.99 for AOL dial up I am by far not a SBC FAN but this should put the final nail in to AOL Coffin. People will really want to get off dial up now with this price | |
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HomerAYK
join:2004-03-10
Chicago, IL | Is this deal better than the $19.99 deal? The terms didn't change, did they? You get a free modem and agree to a one year contract. No SBC local calling package required, right? Is there a catch? | |
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viperm
Carpe Diem
Premium
join:2002-07-09
Winchester, CA
1 edit | Re: Is this deal better than the $19.99 deal? HMM let me see its says clearly you must also get an SBC phone packge and another poster found its the 384 kbps package NOT 1.5 meg package. PEOPLE READ THE THREAD!!!!! | |
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| | Frohike
Premium
join:2000-07-23
Waxahachie, TX
| Re: Is this deal better than the $19.99 deal? said by viperm :HMM let me see its says clearly you must also get an SBC phone packge and another poster found its the 384 kbps package NOT 1.5 meg package. PEOPLE READ THE THREAD!!!!! Viperm,
You clearly need to read.
Its 384-1.5 and it states you have to have local service, not a phone package. If you want, you can get the cheap measured service for your phone line if you want. | |
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Erwin_D
join:2003-06-30
Netherlands | Of course there is... Expect to see a raise in Regulatory Recovery Fees for the same ammount of the price drops. | |
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join:2003-06-24
Chula Vista, CA | Re: Damn !!! got it on the button!!! | |
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dg2
Premium
join:2004-01-22
Lowell, AR
 ·Cox HSI
1 edit | Moot Point The new package has absolutely no meaning if SBC won't serve you with DSL in the first place.
New RT in place for 3 years; Stinger box in place and pulling power for 6 months; 2 unreturned promised phone calls; 0 DSL service and 0 estimates on when service will be available...
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GorbGuy
join:2003-09-23
Middleville, MI
clubs:
| Re: Moot Point Same boat as you.
I'd be curious to see SBC's statistics of those served... perhaps something like percentage of customers that are physically able to get DSL that have it and one that lists those that want it but are not able to get it. I'm sure we'd all be amazed 
I'm not in a Verizon area, but I'm starting to think I'll be on the list for FIOS before SBC comes through with something faster than the 42k I'm seeing now.
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| | NotoriousBun
join:2003-09-30
Cleveland, OH | Re: Moot Point its probably only for customers who sign up for the "all distance package" which is 20 extra dollars a month... | |
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join:2003-05-09
Spiro, OK
| Re: Moot Point I would say that if you consider that SBC rolled out service to 500,000 new subscribers over the past 6 months, that they are making every effort to get people hooked up as fast as they can.
A large part of telcos not spreading DSL as aggressively in the past as they are now is the fact that DS LAMS and other equipment now cost considerably less than they did 5 years ago. They are also somewhat more robust when it comes to handling dirty phone lines - that is, they are able to provide DSL to customers who previously would not have qualified.
Looking on the horizon, SBC will not stay at this price forever. They are working on their "Project Lightspeed." I would say they are attempting to get as many people signed up at low rates now, in order to have a larger base of customers when they roll out their new service. You can certainly expect to see higher prices and unbundled service then in return for higher speeds and more services.
The problem is that from what I understand, DSL is not yet profitable so that if SBC offers DSL without a phone line (they are looking at this now) it is going to cost more than it does bundled. It is still a good price though.
Since I have signed up, I have seen prices drop from 49.95 to 24.95. Not bad, considering I was paying 24.95 for dialup (earthlink charged extra to invoice me rather than dip into my bank account.)
Having come up from the days when going "on-line" meant using an acoustic coupler for a 300 bps link, all I can say that no matter what form your broadband takes, it is getting better every year | |
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ME
join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH | Re: Moot Point Earthlink only charges extra if they have to mail you a printed invoice. But why get a printed invoice when you can print it online and mail it in to them. Save about $2 | |
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dg2
Premium
join:2004-01-22
Lowell, AR
·Cox HSI
| said by unclebob :I would say that if you consider that SBC rolled out service to 500,000 new subscribers over the past 6 months, that they are making every effort to get people hooked up as fast as they can. That's much easier to say if you're one of the people they've hooked up. As for us here (AR is Arkansas, for the record), our CO is saturated, and has "moved" from 28,000 ft. away to 56,000 ft. away in the past year. Again, the RT at the end of the street is complete (with Lucent Stinger, which is a DSL service board), fully connected, and pulling power, but SBC says no DSL service now or in the forseeable future for us. If this is "as fast as they can", I'd hate to see slow.
Bundled or unbundled is really a secondary issue, as I've been a Southwestern Bell / SBC POTS subscriber since 1989. They've gladly taken that money, and always ask me to buy a satellite dish, but don't seem willing to offer me DSL...
Having come up from the days when going "on-line" meant using an acoustic coupler for a 300 bps link, all I can say that no matter what form your broadband takes, it is getting better every year
I must agree that it's a lot better than it used to be, although I skipped the acoustical coupler stage myself and went straight to the 300 baud "direct connect" (dial the phone, wait for the squeal, flip the switch, hang up the phone...) It's in a cabinet around here somewhere... | |
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highjinx
join:2000-10-12
Alturas, CA
| said by dg2 :The new package has absolutely no meaning if SBC won't serve you with DSL in the first place. You're located in Arizona. Go b@%tch about Qwest.
HJ | |
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GorbGuy
join:2003-09-23
Middleville, MI
clubs: | Re: Moot Point Umm, I believe AR is Arkansas, which is in SBC territory.  | |
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hookem9
join:2000-12-19
San Francisco, CA | Re: Moot Point it's that quality California public school system...or does CA mean he's from Canada? | |
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hookem9
join:2000-12-19
San Francisco, CA | it's that quality California public school system...or does CA mean he's from Canada? | |
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MarkyD
Premium
join:2002-08-20
Oklahoma City, OK
clubs:
·Cox HSI
| said by highjinx :said by dg2 :The new package has absolutely no meaning if SBC won't serve you with DSL in the first place. You're located in Arizona. Go b@%tch about Qwest. HJ Did we forget to learn our state abbreviations? He's in Arkansas. | |
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| | fiberguy
My views are my own.
Premium
join:2005-05-20
| Uh, this isn't in the SBC forum.. it's a news article and I think everyone has the right to discuss anything in these forums so long as they are contributing to them...
Please show me the rules that say to stay out of forums if you don't subscribe to them. | |
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fiberslammed
@optonline.net |  VERIZON spending billion$$$ in FIBER rollout to
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oliphant
I Have 8 Boobies
Premium
join:2004-11-26
Corona, CA | Re: VERIZON spending billion$$$ in FIBER rollout to Where do Verizon and SBC directly compete? | |
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| moonpuppy
join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD | said by fiberslammed:
compete for $14.95/month SBC DSL Internet access ?????
Guess BPL will have to lower its price too.  | |
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ross
join:2000-08-16
·Digizip
| Nobody griping about predatory pricing??? How is it that SBC, with humungous market share already, can get away with this blatant predatory pricing in markets they already dominate? Is this the face of competition, or just a baldfaced attempt to put their smaller, marginal competitors out of business quickly and permanently?
I guess nobody gives a crap; at least for the coming year, eh? After that, when SBC cranks their rates back up, and you folks don't have an alternate provider to look to to save your sorry asses, you'll be back here to do the whiny dance, all a flutter about how youse got screwed when you wasn't looking. Dear, dear...
I thought all you SBC/Telco fanboys claimed that SBC couldn't make a profit selling wholesale to CLECs and other resellers at $25.00/line. What changed? | |
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djrobx
join:2000-05-31
Valencia, CA |  Holy geeze
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join:2003-06-15
Allentown, PA
| 1 year term The SBC offer for the $14.95 price is for the term of the contract, which is one year. After that, the price may change to whatever is the standard price at that time.
Does anyone care to estimate how likely it is that SBC will actually raise the price after 1 year? | |
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| Frohike
Premium
join:2000-07-23
Waxahachie, TX | Re: 1 year term Will most likely raise to what it currently is if you don't agree to another 1 year - 49.95, however, after the initial 1 year is up, you can agree to another year and get the lower rate. | |
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| krobar
Is this thing on?
join:2002-09-15
Columbus, OH
| I've had SBC dsl for about a year now, and my speeds have gone up while my prices have gone down. I originally had the 29.99 1.5/256, then I signed up for the pro package at 36.95 3.0/384, then they raised the upload speed to 512, then lowered the price to 29.95, and now it's going down to 24.95, so I'm paying less than I was a year ago for more speed.
Oh, and I have a barebones telephone line, no special packages all.
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| | Frohike
Premium
join:2000-07-23
Waxahachie, TX | Re: 1 year term Actually Krobar, the 24.95 is for new customers. Although, you can try calling to get it...never know. | |
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join:2005-05-16
Evans, WA | Re: 1 year term you can call in for upgrade new price.just like renew contract with sbc | |
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raye
Premium
join:2000-08-14
Orange, CA
| Bottom Feeding Trying to keep people from migrating their phones. Pretty sure this is not a naked price.
SBC is a horrible company to do business with. SBC told my ISP that I needed to add a business box at my home to enable additional T1s at home for my business. After I spent $1200 to do that, they then say that they do not have the bandwidth to install additional T1s, and that it will require an additonal $12K investment on my part.
I do not understand. SBC makes $180/T1/month for the loop connection. I have three T1s now, and was planning to expand to six. They would have made more than $1k/month over a 24 month period (length of contract with ISP) just for providing the loop from my home to the switching office.
I have filed a complaint with my state's PUC, but I doubt it will do any good. My advice is to stay away from SBC. They just plain suck. Stick with dial-up, and wait for an ISP that cares to offer service. | |
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join:2000-11-21
·Charter Pipeline
| Re: Bottom Feeding Sorry about your bad experience buddy but you are preaching to deaf ears. $15 for 1.5M/384K DSL for 1 year??? And AOL is still charging $24 for dial up?? Not to sound cold but i dont really give a shit about what they did to you. If SBC was in my neighborhood, i would be calling to switch now! | |
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| | raye
Premium
join:2000-08-14
Orange, CA
| Re: Bottom Feeding To be honest, I pay $1100/month for my T1s, and it does not bother me. Personally, I spend my time focused on increasing my income, and less time bottom feeding.
There are probably better deals on bandwidth; my cable comapany is about $100/month cheaper. But my ISP peers with all the major backbones (UUNET, Sprint, AT&T, Level3, Cogent) whereas my cable company just peers with Level3. If Level3 were to go down, so would my internet connections and all my VPNs to my design team members.
I also prefer an ISP that is not spam tolerant. I have many collegues who switched to my ISP because SBC has large blocks of IP addresses blocked by anti-spam databases (Spamhaus, Spamcop, SPEWS, etc). They were losing customers becasue their e-mails were being blocked.
I suppose it is just perspective. If all I was worried about was the cheapest price without looking at value, $14.95 would attract me. Personally, I prefer my ISP showing up at my door at 4AM to fix a problem I was not even aware of yet, and doing a proper job of kicking spammers of their network. | |
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Fatal Vector
@aol.com
| Re: Bottom Feeding
As you should expect such service from them, considering how much you spend with them per month. However, your business service has little to do with what is being discussed here, which is personal DSL. As i stated in a earlier post, I could give a rats ass, as long as my service is reliable, which it is, and serves my needs, which it does, at what I consider a reasonable cost.
Actually, I have never had any trouble with SBC since they took over Ameritech. Ameritech was another story entirely. Their infrastructure was run down badly when SBC bought them. As one of their line people put it: "Ameritech was a pig, but SBC didn't know it till they bought them. Since then, SBC has made massive investments in the infrastructure and service".
I agree. I get good service, full speed, NO down time at all, DSL customer service has allways been knowledgeable and in the past my basic phone service has allways been fixed within hours, even when a underground trunk was accidentally cut.
My only other resort is Comcast, it's true, but I wont be paying them $42 any time soon when the DSL serves me. We all make our choices, pilgrim. | |
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| Crematum
Premium
join:2005-01-10
Canton, CT | T1... DSL... apples to oranges, eh? | |
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| | raye
Premium
join:2000-08-14
Orange, CA | Will be Apples to Apples once SBC is only one left And then I will have to deal with those mrons for all my telecommunication services.
I am looking inot a carrier pigeon investemnt as a hedge against this final outcome. | |
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steevio
Saving Lives One Shift At A Time
join:2003-06-22
Valencia, CA | Who cares! I really hoped that June would bring us some MUCH NEEDED SPEED INCREASES! Instead, Pro gets lowered again! WHO CARES... I want some freakin' speed Mr. SBC....I want it now.... Enough dickin' roun' just give it to us already. | |
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Loony2nz
@67.174.x.x | what about current customers? Can they get in on this deal too? | |
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Defcon888
Premium
join:2003-07-22
San Bruno, CA
·AT&T Yahoo
·DSL EXTREME
| Re: what about current customers? said by Loony2nz:
Can they get in on this deal too?
Within a week or two current customers will likely be able to. You can try calling now also to see if they'll let.
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FTCXtreme
join:2005-03-14
New Braintree, MA | What percent of SBCland can get DSL? Anyoen got that Data on how much of SBCland can get DSL? And how much of Verizon land can get DSL? | |
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