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1 edit | said by Johkal  :It's done and over with. Who cares! Let it die. I agree, they should stick a fork in all the business. It's passed done. | |
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| Re: Forget it! I agree, they should stick a fork in all the business. It's passed done. Like this? | |
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| said by Johkal :It's done and over with. Who cares! Let it die. For many of us that were affected personally by it it will never be done. And many of us do care.
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hobgoblin
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I find the whole thing Sad.
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Johkal
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| said by hobgoblin :said by Johkal :It's done and over with. Who cares! Let it die. For many of us that were affected personally by it it will never be done. And many of us do care. Thanks Hob What do you want to do; throw stones at him? I don't understand why anyone wants to discuss this. Besides, I thought you like the Rigas family.
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Realtech23
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| Re: Forget it! As much as I know Hob, he does not need anyone backing him up or sticking up for him. But try to imagine building something from nothing, then to have it taken out of your hands, then given back with little control over upgrade and innovation. Then to be forced. Yes i said and i meant forced to move elsewhere if you want to keep your job. This means losing what you know, what you've been comfortable with for the last several years, all the friendships and relationships you have developed in your years, having to move away from your family (for those who do not know coudersport, everyone and i do mean everyone who worked there lived around family, that is why they lived there or around that area or had close friends that made it like a family) all to have it ripped out and thrown away from the new company that you have to work for now if you really want to stay in the same field or just to pay your bills because in this area unless you have a degree, you are lucky to get anything that pays more than $8 an hour. For a lot of the 500 who lost there jobs at Adelphia in Coudersport just over a year ago are now working and living in other areas of the country just to stay ahead. For a lot of those people every day they have to go to work at the place that dismantled our 500 person family without those other 499 people that made it a great family and I would think Poppa Hob would agree with that. Where can you go to work everyday and honestly say I like my supervisors, I like my managers and trust that you can go to ANY of them with a problem (personal or business) and know that they or anyone else in that company will help you if they can. So yeah for the most part it will never be over as it will be a constant reminder everyday of what was. However we can do without more bad news from this issue as there is nothing more the US Courts will do. Although wouldn't it be possible to petition for a Presidential Pardon from Bush before he leaves office at least for John? I mean he can't do any worse on his way out right? Also for the Sabres fan, Honestly I am a die hard Sabres fan but if this this happen then who would the owner be and what would they have done to the team. Also if your die hard about Buffalo teams how about paying more attention to where Ralph wants to ship the Bills and care more about this because obviously the Sabres are here to stay, just wish they wouldn't ship most of the best players elsewhere.
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hobgoblin
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| Its a news article related to Broadband. If you dont care for it then go read something else. For me its the final closure of close to ten years of my life. For you its a modem, for me it was the building of my dream house in a beautiful part of the country. Its now trying to figure out how much I can afford to lose as the only major employer has left and the house market is in the shitter.
Hell Yes I want to fucking talk about it and read about it.
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hobgoblin
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| Re: Forget it! said by Johkal :You are confusing. On one hand you seem like you want to persecute Rigas and on the other hand in past posts, you defended him. Make up your mind. I am not persecuting anyone. I have my own thoughts on the whole issue and I clearly separate John from Tim.
My mind is clear. Thank you.
Hob
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| Re: Forget it! I always firmly believed this was 99% Tim's doing. John was out of it most of the time, and I don't think he still to this day fully grasps what his son did. He is bluntly near senile, and has been for years. His sons did him in. When he was fully in charge it was a different company, and much more ethical.
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hobgoblin
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| Re: Forget it! said by actor90 :I always firmly believed this was 99% Tim's doing. John was out of it most of the time, and I don't think he still to this day fully grasps what his son did. He is bluntly near senile, and has been for years. His sons did him in. When he was fully in charge it was a different company, and much more ethical. Having met John many times and Tim on occasions your beliefs are what I believe.
Anyone that actually knew John...would understand.
Hob
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MysticGogeta
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1 edit | Club fed is way too forgiving Rigas (the both of them) should be put to hard labor down South on a highway cleanup crew or cracking rocks. Better yet, how about just tossing them out into society and make them get a real job and have to live on that intead of earning a living as a white collar criminal. Incarcerating these two only burdens the taxpayers because now we have to pay for the elder Rigas's healthcare. | |
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Columbus, OH
clubs: | Re: Club fed is way too forgiving my choice is a chain gain down in alabama, surrounded by tons of black folk that dont take to kindy to sum white boy rippin their mamma off her retirement. | |
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Realtech23
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| Re: Club fed is way too forgiving The son do whatever. But lets get real here people. An 83 year old man on a chain gang or doing real physical labor. Some people are just heartless. Also I do agree that this has been long over. The company is gone and everyone has been settling into there new services for a while now. For anyone who thinks i am being too soft on John Regas the "old man" imagine your grandfather or grandmother in prison when they are 83 for 15 years. Make him pay something but prison, lets get real. I truly understand what he did but at the same time for his age I am sure the Courts could come up with something else for him.
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Steve Mehs
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| Re: Club fed is way too forgiving I say screw prison and just let every person who resides in the Buffalo area get 60 seconds with the scumbags. The old man would be a dead man for the turmoil that family put me through not knowing if the Sabres last game ever in Buffalo was just around the corner. | |
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| Re: Club fed is way too forgiving So, you want an old man to die because of a hockey team?
How shallow are you?
This is a DEATH SENTENCE! Make no mistake about it. 83 years old, and a 15 year sentence. And there is no parole in the federal system. You must serve 85% of the time. That's 12 year, 8 months. He'll be 96 by then.
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| Re: Club fed is way too forgiving quote:
So, you want an old man to die because of a hockey team?
How shallow are you?
Yes he should die becasue of a hockey team, and yes I am shallow. Hockey is a way of life and the blood of this area. If the Sabres would have left, the local economy would be worse then it is now. Either that dipshit and his family can suffer or the 1.3 million residents of the greater Buffalo-Niagara Frontier can suffer. I choose the old man!
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clubs: | and there are alot of retired folk whos retirement plan held stock in the company that can bairly afford the medds to stay alive and live the retirement they wanted to, and look forward to for many decades. | |
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1 edit | said by Attack Gypsy :This is a DEATH SENTENCE! Make no mistake about it. 83 years old, and a 15 year sentence. And there is no parole in the federal system. You must serve 85% of the time. That's 12 year, 8 months. He'll be 96 by then. He'll die there. No question. Boo freakin' hoo. Why don't you cry for all the people who were ripped off by the Rigas family. Where are your crocodile tears for the victims? Did you mourn Ken Lay's prison sentence as well? 
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Bridgeport, CT | Re: Club fed is way too forgiving So, everybody who commits fraud should be sentenced to death?
So, the card game I cheated at with my little brother when I was 10 earns me a bullet in the back of the head?
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| Re: Club fed is way too forgiving said by Attack Gypsy :So, the card game I cheated at with my little brother when I was 10 earns me a bullet in the back of the head? Last I checked, this isn't a card game, and the person in question is hardly anyone's "little brother". The "petty crime" screwed many out of their livelyhoods, and the man is hardly anywhere near being an ignorant child.
Please. A senior citizen *and* performing mass corporate money laundry for personal benefit? He knew damn well what kind of game he was getting into. | |
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| said by Attack Gypsy :So, everybody who commits fraud should be sentenced to death? So, the card game I cheated at with my little brother when I was 10 earns me a bullet in the back of the head? Greetings, comrade. Papers, please. No, but everyone who does a crime should pay for that crime. They should all pay the same penalty regardless of age. He's a criminal plain and simple and should be dealt with just like every other criminal.
He didn't seem to have any problem ripping off millions of people just like his son...
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| said by Attack Gypsy :So, everybody who commits fraud should be sentenced to death? So, the card game I cheated at with my little brother when I was 10 earns me a bullet in the back of the head? Greetings, comrade. Papers, please. Are you serious? Please. If you can't see the difference between a card game that affects nobody and a money scam that affects thousands of honest and hard-working people and their families, you have some issues.
The guy committed a crime that warrants the amount of time he got, if not more. He's 83, but he knew exactly what he was doing. The fact that he may die in jail is something he should have thought about before taking part in the scam.
Forgive any of us who have no sympathy for such selfish people who could care so little about the people that helped them build their empire because the millions of honest dollars were not good enough for them. | |
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Realtech23
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Olean, NY | Re: Club fed is way too forgiving WOW if you think that way then.. Can we have Briere and Biron back from the Flyers? We really need them back.
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| Re: Club fed is way too forgiving Nope. We're keeping them. 
And Pif, if you think taxes would go down if they left - I highly doubt it. They should, but I don't see the city doing it. Once the money streams in, why would they turn it away? They'll just find other reasons why they need to keep it.
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| Re: Club fed is way too forgiving Before you guys got Biron this time last year and then Briere at the end of the Season thanks to our Management not offering him better money first, i might add. It did look like the Flyers were done. But i will tell you the same thing I tell my stepdad and any other Flyers fan. Your welcome. (for Biron and Briere) Without Biron your team would be crushed again. without Briere you would have no assists for others to score with.
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2 edits | While ginning up sympathy for The Rigas Family is unlikely on my part, as it would only give me a hernia from all the effort, I do get a kick out of the comments of some:
"Club Fed".
Club. Fed.
Ahh, the Pavlovian buzz words of The Squawking Heads, as they construct the piss-off of the day for their listeners. And the listeners, if they investigated the less-than-salubrious conditions in most(Admittedly not all, like Allenwood Minimum Security) Federal Lockups, would wonder when we returned to The Middle Ages, or chose Andersonville as our modern prison model.
But hey, it makes radio that people listen to, for a release from their swirling gray maelstrom of despair and gives them a focus of blame and anger for the frustrating lives they live. After all, it ain't them doing time.
Well, yet, anyway. After all, 25% of our population is or has been incarcerated. Throwing happy asses in jail is just good bidness. Ask CCA.
Still, it's hard to sympathize with The Rigas Family and those so like them and whose numbers are legion. The Criminals in Cravats, you know? | |
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1 edit | If you don't want to do the time, then don't do the crime, regardless of how old you are.
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1 edit | said by Realtech23 :The son do whatever. But lets get real here people. An 83 year old man on a chain gang or doing real physical labor. Some people are just heartless. Agreed. That 83 year old prick was pretty heartless. Selfish is another word that comes to mind, among many others that the moderators here wouldn't tolerate.
I don't care if you are 83 or 38, what this guy did screwed thousands and thousands of people out of their futures. Since he doesn't have much of a future left, I think he SHOULD spend the rest of it as uncomfortable as possible.
Call me heartless if you want, but if that were the case, then I can't figure out why my heart would ache so much for those families whose finances were destroyed by this father and son combo. | |
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| Re: This is where these two bums belong Considering all that is known about Sheriff Giuseppi and his dealings, The irony will be quite delicious when he is issued a set of pink underware and a slab of rotten balogna to call his very own.
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Redwood Valley, CA | said by Transmaster :Sheriff Joe That guy is such a blowhard redneck. | |
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Rialto, CA | Re: This is where these two bums belong I don't see anyone from Arizona complaining, so it's not likely that Sheriff Joe will go until he dies of natural causes or decides to retire. | |
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Helena, AL | Guess What? They get what they deserve.
I had Adelphia back in like 2001 when lived in Cumming, GA. The service was great when they took over prestige cable.
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| Re: Guess What? A complement on there Business decision to take over your area and make it better and then the statement "They get what they deserve" wow your welcome. How do you know that if Adelphia wouldn't have taken over your area you wouldn't be stuck with that prestige cable now and still have bad service because Top 5 Cable companies do not care to buy up little individual places and make them better. They buy up Counties and states all at once. (with the Exception of Adelphia, who cared about small towns and improving area's where other cable companies didn't want to go in and put money into areas.) Its funny that NY is now putting in Millions to put broadband in areas where broadband does not exist when Adelphia did it out of there own pocket.
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| Re: Guess What? So, because they brought broadband to non-broadband areas, they should be pardoned for stealing from the average guy's pockets? I suppose if Charles Manson would have put together a homeless shelter, he should not have been put away.
I've got news for you. They didn't bring broadband to these places because they are nice. They saw a chance to make money and went for it. Their problem was they got greedy and wasn't happy enough with the honest dollar. They had to go for the working guys' pockets who helped make their business what it was.
So, yeah. They gave you broadband and, in the process, screwed over thousands of others who built and maintained it. | |
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