"More than 66 days have passed since House Democrats allowed a key piece of terrorist surveillance legislation to expire--not because they had concerns with the bill, but because they were seemingly more concerned that not enough trial lawyers would be able to file enough expensive and frivolous lawsuits against U.S. telecom firms,"

said by INT0CABLE :

get outta here with your republican crap. that bill should be buried

said by wierdo :

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It's not Republican crap, it's fascist (and corporatist) crap.

said by INT0CABLE :

get outta here with your republican crap. that bill should be buried

said by INT0CABLE :

then weirdo its right this is not republican and i should have known better because ron paul doesnt approve of this blown in your face violation of civil liberties.

it's fascist (and corporatist) crap.

said by S_engineer :

Funny how when you download music via bit torrent, it's seems to be ok. But when our gov't sifts through the network...it's facism. What a load of crap!
Any person thats ever downloaded a song illegally is just as guilty as the gov't for "obtaining binary" that they're not entitled to!

Thank You Verizon...Thank You AT&T and all others that helped when we needed you.

And by the way...why the hell hasn't Mark Klien been indicted?

said by ackman :

It is documented that Bush and fascist cronies started illegally wiretapping long before 9/11/01.

said by TK Junk Mail :

The US has been tapping the phone systems since the 50's, including Clinton, Carter, Johnson, Kennedy and all the other liberal Dems. And this won't change if Obama or Hillary gets elected president.

said by S_engineer :

Funny how when you download music via bit torrent, it's seems to be ok. But when our gov't sifts through the network...it's facism. What a load of crap!
Any person thats ever downloaded a song illegally is just as guilty as the gov't for "obtaining binary" that they're not entitled to!

said by insomniac84 :

Republicans are for less government.

said by KrK :

No.... not really. Maybe once. These days, the Republican party merely gives lip service to this, while actually increasing Government size and expanding Government Scope and Power at previously unheard of speed... (Well, since WWII. anyway.)

Republicans these days all seem to be about "Keep your hands off our money" and "No business regulation for OUR businesses" but want strict control over everything else....

said by boognish :

If they didn't do anything wrong then they shouldn't have anything to worry about. They should not be offered immunity and rewarded if what they did was wrong and they knew what they were doing was wrong. They have enough lawyers and are under enough regulations to know if what they did was kosher or not. It should not be about what party you are in or how you feel about spying and the war. We are a country governed by laws. There should not be a set of laws for one class or for one type of organization. It should be an even playing field and the same rules should be applied to everyone regardless of class, size, political leaning, or anything else. If they chose to ignore or bend the rules for someone then screw them now they can suffer the consonances.

said by dsldude08 :

You are part of the cause of all of this if that is your attitude. The reason for that is because you sit back and let them get away with these things and refuse to try to change the ways when you actually have the power to do so.

said by rit56 :

they broke the law and should be punished,

said by rahvin112 :

Hopefully in 8 short months real criminal charges will be filed against everyone that was involved including those in the administration who were involved, hopefully right to the top of the current administration.

said by amigo_boy :

If they broke the law, charge them criminally.

said by wierdo :

Or did you conveniently forget about that?

said by amigo_boy :

You have congressional hearings available to you. And elections to replace those you believe are preventing justice. Just 8 months.

said by wierdo :

What a nice tactic. Change the subject when you don't like someone's point. Today, and since 2004, it has not been possible to federally prosecute a crime that the political machine does not want to see prosecuted.

said by wierdo :

Besides, the ECPA and other wiretap laws specifically create a civil cause of action, so I don't know where you get off saying that these companies should only find themselves in criminal court.

said by amigo_boy :

I was just replying to the incessant statements that "a crime was committed" or "they broke the law." If those statements are true, the place to prove it is in a criminal court, not civil. Many proponents of these civil suits have openly stated that it's being done because it's easier than seeking criminal charges. (Which sounds a lot like what the corner-cutting which the Administration is accused of.).

said by amigo_boy :

Sorry. I didn't realize I changed the topic. You complained that it's impossible for criminal charges to be brought due to the current administration. I responded that you have political options such as 1) pressure Congress to hold hearings (and call for prosecutions depending on the results). And, 2) use the election process to replace those who you believe aren't pursuing justice.

said by amigo_boy :

I was just replying to the incessant statements that "a crime was committed" or "they broke the law." If those statements are true, the place to prove it is in a criminal court, not civil. Many proponents of these civil suits have openly stated that it's being done because it's easier than seeking criminal charges. (Which sounds a lot like what the corner-cutting which the Administration is accused of.).

said by TK Junk Mail :

I think you miss the point. I am on the side of those who rule - not on the side of the "great unwashed" masses.

said by KrK :

The People always win in the end

said by TK Junk Mail :

LOL. Sure they do. How naive of you.

said by TK Junk Mail :

Well, I live in the real world and not in the fantasy land you apparently think we should live in. You are ignoring the "Golden Rule" - those who have the gold rule. That rule has controlled the world for thousands of years and nothing I have ever seen in governance around the world is going to change it.