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| Re: Philadelphia WiFi Proved the Obvious said by pnh102 :Crime is literally out of control. Murder is at record levels. The schools are a joke. The city government on the other hand seems to be more pre-occupied with routing the Boy Scouts out of town and punishing legitimate businessmen for insisting their clientele speak English. While I'm no apologist for the Street administration, some of your facts are a bit off.
With regard to Wi-fi, Philadelphia has gotten Earthlink to spend $20 million to build a substantial part of the system. While Earthink may not complete the job, if there is a default, the system belongs to the City. And, the whole thing hasn't cost the City a penny. All in all, a very smart deal.
Your statements that crime is "literally out of control" and that murder is "at record levels" are patently false. The Inquirer reported on Thursday that the murder rate is down slightly compared to last year (which was no where near a record). Other violent crime rates are down significantly. »www.philly.com/philly/news/homep···096.html Many people forget that the record murder rate was set during Rizzo's tenure in the 70s. (Other violent crime was probably at record levels then too, but Rizzo fudged the numbers. At the time, folks studying Philadelphia's crime numbers commented that Rizzo couldn't hide the bodies.)
Standardized test scores suggest that Philadelphia's schools are slowly improving. However, since the state has taken control of the schools, the credit or blame for that does not really belong to the City.
A City that is trying to attract foreign tourists does not benefit from having businesses hang signs in their windows telling those visitors that they are not welcome unless they can speak English. Neither does the City benefit from giving free rent to organizations that discriminate against gays and atheists. | |
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| Re: Philadelphia WiFi Proved the Obvious said by Backspace :I never understood why the city was going to implement free WiFi in neighborhoods where the people could barely afford a $10 bag of Heroin let alone a computer. It couldn't be for the payoffs, could it? This just doesn't make sense. Who are you suggesting paid off whom? If Earthlink bribed someone in the City to get the contract, it hasn't worked out as planned. Earthlink stands to lose a truckload of money and the City stands to get a Wifi network for free. If that's the way corrupt government works, I say let's have more of it. | |
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| Re: Philadelphia WiFi Proved the Obvious said by howrman :said by Backspace :I never understood why the city was going to implement free WiFi in neighborhoods where the people could barely afford a $10 bag of Heroin let alone a computer. It couldn't be for the payoffs, could it? This just doesn't make sense. Who are you suggesting paid off whom? If Earthlink bribed someone in the City to get the contract, it hasn't worked out as planned. Earthlink stands to lose a truckload of money and the City stands to get a Wifi network for free. If that's the way corrupt government works, I say let's have more of it. No large company does business with the city in Philly without paying people off. Philly has been known as the "Pay-To-Play" city and Earthlink probably contributed more than any other ISP to the mayor and certain city council members for their election campaigns. I can't provide proof but the FBI has been looking into the mayor's office for a few years.
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Philadelphians are nothing if not proud of our history, so it was no surprise to me that Philadelphia Mayor John Street was recently reelected despite the discovery of a FBI bug in his city hall office shortly before the election. The news of the bug and the subsequent story that his administration was being investigated for illegally issuing city contracts to campaign contributors actually helped invigorate his campaign.
We appear to be corrupt and contented still.
The time-honored tradition of rewarding political contributors with lucrative city contracts, called "Pay-to-Play," is not unique to Philadelphia. Other cities have similar set-ups. As I understand it, giving contracts to contributors is only illegal if its done on a "quid pro quo" (something for something) basis. That is, if you give the mayor a campaign contribution and then just happen to be awarded a contract, that’s not a crime. But if there is a stated agreement of cash traded for future contracts, that’s a crime. WiFi will not be free to the city, as I have read where it will cost the city between $11 million and $15 million to implement the WiFi plan. And I'm willing to bet that if the WiFi network is ever completed and Earthlink pulls out of Philly, a friend, relative, or a big campaign contributor of the mayor will be running the system. | |
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| said by pnh102 :The city government on the other hand seems to be more pre-occupied with routing the Boy Scouts out of town and punishing legitimate businessmen for insisting their clientele speak English. the government is not preoccupied with running the boy scouts out of town, they are plenty welcome to stay in town, they just cant continue to squat on public property while having discriminatory membership policies. Also, wtf on the second point? preoccupied with punishing joey vento?? yeah, the district attorneys are working around the clock on this.  | |
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| The End User has no clue I squarely plop this in Earthlink and it's resellers' lap. NOBODY understands how the system works but they do understand how Verizon's $14.95/mo DSL works. Sell the damn system and don't rely on showing up on XP's wireless zero config and sending them a web page which confuses the heck out of the potential customer. I manage a PC shop in Philly and I will testify that this is the major block to adoption in Philly. | |
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@pa.us | no more http://www.diversenews.com It's hard for me to check out the news using earthlink.
My favorite site, »www.diversenews.com - comes in slow. I have to use my neighbors wifi. | |
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