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Papiopolis | ...and Motorola drops to #3. Looks like Samsung outsold Moto... pathetic.
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| Re: ...and Motorola drops to #3.Changes in market share just in the last quarter.
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| Re: ...and Motorola drops to #3. said by supergirl  :"Those Japanese are something, aren't they?" "Nokia is Finish." "He's an idiot." -From the Movie Transformers Finnish, not Finish  | |
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aaron83_01
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join:2005-01-03
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| Nokias Rock Nokias are awesome phones, even if us Americans don't think so. If you think about it, the fact that they aren't the most popular here go to show how vain and/or ignorant us Americans are.
I'd say half the reason Nokia isn't #1 in the US is because of the RazR. One of Motorola's biggest pieces of shit, destined to break, is one of our country's hottest selling phones. Why? Because it LOOKS cool. We don't care if it's a POS, we want it because it's cool.
In my experience, Nokia's have the highest signal strength and the longest battery life. They are also the most durable. As a result, they are a few bucks more. Well we Americans can't be bothered with things like good quality and functionality. I mean, it's a cell phone; what the hell does it need a battery or a signal for? No, we need what is cheapest. Thus, Moto and LG have taken over. And I hear at least once a month from one of my friends how they have to get a new phone because their's broke. Meanwhile, I still have my original Nokia brick phone from when T-mobile was still Voicestream. You know what? It still gets a better signal and it's battery lasts longer than a brand new Moto, LG or Samsung. Hell, the only reason I have ever replaced a Nokia of mine.... was to get a better Nokia (until I discovered Win mobile, anyway)! My old Nokia's are such good phones, I've recently sold a couple on Craigslist to college kids who's phones - you guessed it - broke.
The rest of the world has it figured out - spend a little more for a phone that will last you forever.
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Abyss | Re: Nokias Rock If you don't like it here, you can always move to Europe.
Most people renew their plan and get a new phone every year or 2. So who cares if the phone craps out down the road. You don't keep the same PC for a lifetime either. | |
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jgkolt
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| Ok lets take this in another direction. Nokia phones can easily be unlocked and they are cheaper. SO in europe the people who dont get subsidized phones have to shell out more cash so they go for the cheaper one. ALso here in the states, with the free market economy we realized we didnt need this junk so we went for other phones that we liked better. When i used nokia phones it was mainly on the tdma network and all the nokia phones sucked compared to almost any other phone except the audiovox phones(which were worse). Nokia mostly gave these phones away on the cheap so people we end up with them. Recently TMOBILE released hotspot @ Home and they had a nokia phone and a samsung phone. The samsung t409 ran circles around the crappy nokia. Nokia had better specs but its functionality was horrible. I know nokia makes quality networking gear but their phones has something to desire. On the other hand the blackberry 8320 for hotspot@home is great for people just tuning in for H@H.
Siemens makes very reliable and somewhat trendy phones which are big in europe but sadly not as big here in the states. I loved my s46 siemens phone but sadly it is outdated now.
So in our market people voted with thier pocketbook that nokia better bring something better to the table if they want us to buy it. I dont care how large the company is if they put out crap they why should we buy it.
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LilYoda
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| Re: Nokias Rock I wonder where this myth that europeans don't get subsidized phones comes from....
I changed my phone 2 months ago, and I got it cheaper by resigning for 24 months on my contract. The phone is locked to a carrier, and you can unlock it once your contract extension is over.
Europeans can either buy phones full price, and unlocked, or get them at a fraction of the price by renewing their contracts with their providers. When you do so, the phone is locked to your carrier (and sometimes to a single SIM card)
Regarding siemens phones, they were great until BenQ bought them. I was a siemens fan, up to the SL55. All phones they build after BenQ bought them seemed crippled with bugs. I know the 2 I had were, and from what I read on forums, a large number of users were suffering from the same symptoms.
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| Everyone has different opinions. I have had both Nokia and Motorola. I have yet to need a replacement Motorola be it the Razor or another Motorola. Where as I replaced each of my two previous Nokia phones when I was with T-Mobile two times for each model. That is my luck. I know others have had reverse luck.
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In my experience, Nokia's have the highest signal strength and the longest battery life. They are also the most durable. As a result, they are a few bucks more. Well we Americans can't be bothered with things like good quality and functionality.
I agree with some of what you say, but I disagree about Nokia. I had Nokia's early on, they suck. For durability I dare you to put the best Nokia up against a ruggedized Motorola phone for Nextel built to US Military Specifications for durability. My old Nextel Moto i90 (which is non MilSpec) took more abuse then any crappy Nokia could handle. Motorola builds some of the toughest most durable phones this planet has ever seen, and as a whole they build THE best communications equipment on the planet when it comes to two way communications for EMS and law enforcement. Crappy Nokia will never hold a candle to Motorola.
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jazzy_
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Charleston, SC | Re: Nokias Rock Someone who gets it. Nokia phones besides some of their high end models are not that great at all. | |
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major marco
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| said by aaron83_01 :Nokias are awesome phones [...] I second that. I've never had a bad Nokia, even the lower end models are ten thousand times better than any shitty Moto. | |
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| You're correct, old Nokia phones worked well. However as someone who worked for over 10 years there I can attest to the fact that each successive generation became buggier and buggier. The last phones I worked on crashed every couple of days even at the point when they went into production. And we were told to expect that only 30% of bugs would ever be fixed during the life of the product. Nokia has continued to add features at the expense of stability. Who cares about video players when your calls get dropped!
The real reason Nokia phones don't sell in the U.S. is that phones do not get promoted by the carriers unless the mfr. implements what the carrier requests. The best I heard of was 70% compliance on Nokia handsets; the worst was about 30% of what Cingular asked for. | |
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| I'm not particularly impressed with my Motorola SLVR L7c overall, but the one area where I am impressed is durability. I've dropped this think down a flight of stairs onto concrete with hardly a scratch in damage. It's just my own experience, but of the two cellphones I've owned over the last two years (the other being a Samsung a670) , both have proved to be remarkably durable.
A friend of mine owned an older Nokia. It was probably their lowest-end model of the time, and the display was damn near unreadable, not to mention the fact that the thing ran through batteries like a Hummer through gas and it powered off randomly despite never being abused. It may have been a fluke, but Nokias, like all other brands, certainly aren't infallible.
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aaron83_01
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Clarkston, WA | Re: Nokias Rock The JDP Scoring legend... that's very informative... | |
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crippy
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| nokia > all i paid $450 for a "nokia n73 music edition" and i have to say, usa needs to outthrow all other phone brands and bring in nokias... the nokia n95 kicks iphone's ass ... u guys gotta check out
www.nseries.com ... all the new nseries phone, if u go to the regular nokia usa site, www.nokiausa.com u wont see a lot of the new phones as the market here is for dumb ppl who think a flip phone is the most happening thing in the world.. whereas if u go to a nokia middle east site, say india for isntance, www.nokia.co.in they have such a nice collection.. all phones features kick ass | |
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koam
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clubs: | editing same deal here (see Cablevision piece). | |
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jgkolt
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| nokia So the low end phones are trash and the high end phones are good i am hearing people say. Well most people who see a nokia in the store are looking at the ones they are giving away or are cheap so they are ruining their brand image in the states.
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Midak
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| Re: nokia Not true. Nokia covers all from the low end cheap phone to the top of the line. Problem is, US carriers are not going to offer all of them for various reasons and they opted only for the cheap models since they can beat out most of the competition price wise. | |
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| Re: nokia The difference between the US and most of the rest of the world is that in the US, the vast majority of phones are sold through the carriers. The carriers in the US want to "own the customer experience" and they view a big brand like Nokia as competition. | |
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Midak
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| Re: nokia Actually, the vast majority of phones sold in Europe are through carriers also. They just choose to carry a lot more of Nokia's offerings. In Ireland, anyone who knows cell phones will say that the Nokia's are far superior to Motorola but that may be due to the Moto offerings available there. Although, there was a Moto phone sold there (may still be) that allowed video calling, which I seen with my own eyes. It was not much different that webcam chatting with better voice and same choppy picture. | |
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TheOnerf
join:2003-05-30
Arlington, TX
| no wonder. nokia's rule!, i've had 2 of'em in the past 3yrs, both still work!.
i like it, some of the features are better than on other phones, battery charge lasts quite a while, signal is always good(even though i have AT&T), and i've dropped this phone enough times, still works like new. | |
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jgkolt
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clubs: | Re: no wonder. 2 phones in three years? so you need to get one all the time. The phone is never tried out for very long or they dont last long enough and you need to get a new one.
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Da Geek Kid
join:2003-10-11
Mclean, VA | Nokia Rocks where is the surprise? They make iPhone crusher phones (Any E series) for months before iphone ever came out...
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Marietta, GA | Nokia should stick to phones though... I think Nokia phones are good, but I REALLY wish they'd stick to making handsets and not some of the other equipment. Nokia BSC's are horrible (at least in my experience). | |
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join:2004-03-01
Houston, TX
| Nokia (Lexus) VS everything else (hyundai) Yes I know hyundai has definitely improved on reliabitliy. 
Nokia's are excellent phones. The reason they arent popular here in the US is b/c they charge a heftier premium for handsets that are sold then by their competitors ex) samsung, and everyone. The US telco companies are too cheap to dish out the extra $$$ for a descent Nokia so that is why you see these low end base models here.
I have owned over a dozen nokia's on many different GSM and CDMA networks and around a few dozen samsungs and Motos as well as I change phones every few months. I can personally vouch for them. With 1 bar and sometimes even with NO bars I have been able to carry on a descent conversation where as other phones are just plain useless at anything less then 2 bars.
Sure every company makes a mistake here and there with a bad model. Their mistake was not follow the clam shell style trend here in the US. But the US economy only makes a fraction of the world economy and hence nokia remains the no 1 choice as a durable reliable company.
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kwayzcat
join:2002-10-22
Chicago, IL
| I like Nokias but they tend to be buggy Nokia makes some awesome phones and I've owned in order are the 8260, 8290, 6600, E50, 6290. The latest S60 phones have plenty of bugs however and hopefully Nokia realizes they need to fix the bugs before people start buying smart phones from Sony Ericsson.
Their reception used to be the best bar none but Sony Ericsson is giving them a run for the money. I am staying with Nokia for S60, in fact I am buying the E51 as soon as it comes out. | |
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| Nokia has false advertising, it may catch up to them Recently went of my way to buy an unlocked genuine Nokia 6300 to ensure that I had all the features listed on Nokia's official web site.
Upon receiving my handset, I found out that the unit was missing the email client, as well as instant messaging and PTT options from its menus.
After HOURS on the phone with Nokia who accused me of traficking phones etc etc, one person finally checked with tehir supervisor and told me that Nokia had removed those features from the 6300. Yet, handsets sold outside of north america still have those features, and Nokia's north american web sites (USA and CANADA) still list those features.
The fact that Nokia allowed thos to happen (removing advertised features) might catch up to Nokia and give it a bad image. Granted, most people buy network-branded Nokia phone with network selected software options, but it is still bad image for Nokia.
I really liked the 6300 but Nokia's handling of this has turned me off Nokia FOR A VERY LONG TIME.
With handsets becoming personal computers, more and more people will want to have full control over their device and not let some network decide what features they can and cannot have. And if people start to buy from Nokia, Nokia's absolutely terrible telephone support will give it as bad an image as Comcast and other large companies that have terrible telephone support. | |
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