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Will operate in the 60 GHz band
08:57AM Monday May 10 2010 by Karl Bode
tags: business · hardware · alternatives · wireless
The Wi-Fi Alliance and WiGig Alliances have agreed to cooperate on a new Wi-Fi wireless standard in the 60 GHz band designed for short-range (about thirty feet) wireless transfers (like in-home HD signals) up to 7 Gbps. The cooperation between the Wi-Fi Alliance and WiGig Alliances opens the door to, as Glenn Fleishman at Wi-Fi Networking News notes, that "a single Wi-Fi adapter in the future would handle 2.4 GHz for compatibility and range, 5 GHz for performance and reduced interference, and 60 GHz for short-range super-fast data transfers." According to the groups, they have nearly all the chip makers on board for what will be dubbed the WiGig standard.

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Slava
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What is considered short range?

Does that mean one might not be able to receive ones neighbors wireless signal?

BF69
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Camden, TN

Re: What is considered short range?

I can see it being used in things like TVs, blu-ray players etc so these devices can connect to each other without wires.

MIllIlITER
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said by Slava See Profile :

Does that mean one might not be able to receive ones neighbors wireless signal?
WiGig good for up to 10 meters(11 yds or 33 ft).

»www.theregister.co.uk/2010/05/10/wigig/
WiGig will carry over about 10 meters in ideal conditions, limiting the application of the technology to cable-replacement even if it can replace a very-fat cable.
Sounds like you would have to be in the same room as the AP.
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PapaMidnight

join:2009-01-13
Baltimore, MD

Re: What is considered short range?

said by MIllIlITER See Profile :

said by Slava See Profile :

Does that mean one might not be able to receive ones neighbors wireless signal?
WiGig good for up to 10 meters(11 yds or 33 ft).

»www.theregister.co.uk/2010/05/10/wigig/
WiGig will carry over about 10 meters in ideal conditions, limiting the application of the technology to cable-replacement even if it can replace a very-fat cable.
Sounds like you would have to be in the same room as the AP.
Sounds good for floor-to-floor bridging without the hassle of running ethernet in a home. Just my opinion.

Jerm

join:2000-04-10
Richland, WA

said by MIllIlITER See Profile :

Sounds like you would have to be in the same room as the AP.
BINGO. 60Ghz is going to act like light in this situation - forget going through floors or anything like that.
patcat88

join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY

Re: What is considered short range?

said by Jerm See Profile :

said by MIllIlITER See Profile :

Sounds like you would have to be in the same room as the AP.
BINGO. 60Ghz is going to act like light in this situation - forget going through floors or anything like that.
This short range wifi will be useless, when the typical obese american walks infront of the LOS the signal will drop in half in bandwidth.
fiberguy
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Why did you bother posting that information to an MVM user of BBR, of all people? Did they not read the article as posted? sheesh..

But either way.. I can see this being pretty good.. just will need some kind of repeater in most houses.. that is, if they'd do this right and build a repeater into each device in addition to standard send/receive... that way all equipment would help push the signal to the next in the line.. just would make sense to me.
amungus
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nice

Bet the anti-wi-fi crowd will love this
I can hear it already - 'these things gave me cancer! ban 'em!'

On another note, sounds like we're one step closer to one less cord somewhere, someday
fiberguy
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Re: nice

said by amungus See Profile :

Bet the anti-wi-fi crowd will love this
I can hear it already - 'these things gave me cancer! ban 'em!'

On another note, sounds like we're one step closer to one less cord somewhere, someday
I wish that crowd would realize that looking at a computer screen also gives cancer too.. and would stop looking at theirs! But, I'm sure they look funny walking around with Tin-Foil covering their head. (Someone should come up with a report that Aluminum Foil causes brain cancer - THEN watch the fun begin! )

Thane_Bitter

join:2005-01-20
London, ON
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Um, just how short?

quote:
....60 GHz for short-range super-fast data transfers...
Just how short range are we talking? It's meaningless if you have to be standing right on top of the wireless access point.
tbone2006

join:2006-07-22
Abilene, TX

Re: Um, just how short?

Story says ~30 feet

battleop

join:2005-09-28
00000

Re: Um, just how short?

That's great until you want your wireless Tivo to connect to the TV in the bedroom.

Thane_Bitter

join:2005-01-20
London, ON
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said by tbone2006 See Profile :

Story says ~30 feet
Karls bit says thirty, but the story link seems less optimistic:
quote:
The 60 GHz band, also known as a millimetre band for its wavelength, can allow up to 7 Gbps in short-range data transmission in the US and many other countries, with multiple channel configurations allowed to operate in the same space. The short wavelength means short propagation, mostly in room.
Not saying it can't be done but to cover a whole house one would need many APs which somewhat defeats the whole point of wireless. Once the standard is finalized (look how long it took them to do that with N) it's then up to the manufactures to follow it (which is something they don't always do very well).

Of course the good news is such an alliance of industry partners might speed up the process and get things developed with greater speed and we don't see the market flooded with overpriced Draft X/Y approximation products.
openbox9

join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA

Re: Um, just how short?

Given that 60 GHz isn't going to propagate very well at all, this isn't intended to cover your whole house
patcat88

join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
This is just intended as another Wireles HDMI solution, for example »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WirelessHD

DrModem
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USA
Looks like bluetooth range.

DaveDude
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New Jersey
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For electronics

This is just meant for electronics to other electronics, right near each other. There has been a long drive to make everything plug and play. This will just enable a wireless hookup of your TV, DVR etc to your set. I wonder how pairing is going to happen ?
patcat88

join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY

Re: For electronics

2 words, Geek Squad

SLD
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Nice

I can get a whole-body-tan without leaving the house - use the plasma to get cover my front and the WiGig to bake my back.
MovieLover76

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Let me know when they have N working first

I just got a new laptop in my office a Dell Precision M6500 and I could barely use the internet because while it claimed the connection was running the connection just kept stalling and things timing out. Couldn't figure it out as when I was setting it up over the weekend at home the wireless had been perfect to my home router.

Turns out the work router has N enabled, in a business complex with lots of AP's around us, when I noticed that was connecting as N and I only have G at home, I disabled the N at the driver level and now everything works perfectly.

This is why I only use wireless for web surfing on laptops at home, everything else I just run gigabit ethernet to

ds5v50

join:2003-01-22
Fremont, OH

Gas Meters


Our local gas company.. Columbia... Just installed new readers that operate in this range. Now they drive by the house and do not have to knock on the door. We have had 2 readings using it and it is spot on..
patcat88

join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY

Re: Gas Meters

Meter reading is effortless, theres nothing wrong with using 10000 bits of ECCed data to send 1 bit of meter status. For computing, that level of ECC is suicide.
tmc8080

join:2004-04-24
Floral Park, NY

wrong name

I think adding the wifi name for a wireless transfer of video would be confusing as there are many tivo and/or media devices that use wifi. A better name would be hdmi-w(ireless) since the bandwidth would be about the same.
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