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story category New HSDPA-Supported iPhone: $200
AT&T Plans $200 subsidy
10:04AM Wednesday Apr 30 2008 by Karl
tags: business · wireless · hardware · Cingular Wireless
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Fortune, quoting a "person familiar with the strategy," says that AT&T will be looking to seriously drop the price of their HSDPA-supporting iPhone, rumored to be released in June. AT&T is apparently looking to subsidize the cost of the phone by $200, meaning the lowest tier 8GB version would only cost consumers around $200. According to the report, the discount would only be available through AT&T (not in Apple stores) and would require the signing of a two-year contract. These latest versions are expected to be 2.5 mm thinner and have GPS.

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Jerkface

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Patiently Waiting

For this upgrade. Its what i've been waiting for.

MattE
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Much more palatable

$200 is a much more palatable price and more in line with what the general populace is willing to pay I bet. The iPhone is not worth $399 or $499, no phone is.

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Re: Much more palatable

said by MattE See Profile :

$200 is a much more palatable price and more in line with what the general populace is willing to pay I bet. The iPhone is not worth $399 or $499, no phone is.
Clearly some people felt it was considering how many have been sold...

Luker3

join:2004-10-09
Blacksburg, VA

Re: Much more palatable

Well, some of them didn't think it was because a few months later they complained that the price went down after they got it, and then demanded a $100 refund.

Makes me was to just smack all of those people in the face.

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said by icp1 See Profile :

said by MattE See Profile :

$200 is a much more palatable price and more in line with what the general populace is willing to pay I bet. The iPhone is not worth $399 or $499, no phone is.
Clearly some people felt it was considering how many have been sold...
some. But apparently not enough if ATT is willing to subsidize these phones.
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said by icp1 See Profile :

said by MattE See Profile :

$200 is a much more palatable price and more in line with what the general populace is willing to pay I bet. The iPhone is not worth $399 or $499, no phone is.
Clearly some people felt it was considering how many have been sold...
There is a faithful contingent of Mac users who will buy anything Apple craps out, at any price. Then you have the spoiled brat kids (and some business folks) who have to have the latest, most expensive gadget to show off.

Take a look here:

»arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20···ers.html

The iPhone is doing well, but it is not doing as well as most of the Apple faithful would have you believe. 4 million total sales worldwide is very respectable, but hardly ground breaking or earth shattering. In two years the Moto Razr sold over 50 million units worldwide way back in 2006: »www.motorola.com/mediacenter/new···_6980_23 and the original Startac sold over 75 million unit worldwide during its life.

The true test will come with HSDPA, real Exchange server support, and the $200 price from AT&T.

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said by MattE See Profile :

$200 is a much more palatable price and more in line with what the general populace is willing to pay I bet. The iPhone is not worth $399 or $499, no phone is.
the iphone is DEFINATELY not worth $399 or $499, but you are mistaken about the fact that no phone is really worth that much, well the phone im referring to here would be
Nokia n82, Nokia n95 8gb... the two top line N-Series phone by nokia kinda kick the shit out of all the phones that are out there

anyhoo, nice to see the price of iphone coming down to something more sensible, atleast for what its worth, maybe!
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Re: Much more palatable

Well the nokia n82 and n95 take true 30 FPS video quality that is crisp as hell. It has a nice built in full feature camera, etc. That phone is pretty amazing compared to the trash heap known as the IPhone. Apple seems to be able to put anything out, slap their name on it, and sell it in record numbers. It's good for them of course. However, I think too many people are caught into the name brand mania, versus the actual worth of the phone. My opinion.

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That's the thing. Apple stuff usually is never reasonably priced.
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ditka_b
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Blah it's all relative and as you have already done if you don't think it's worth it don't buy it. But you certainly don't need to whine either lol
lefty1

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said by MattE See Profile :

$200 is a much more palatable price and more in line with what the general populace is willing to pay I bet. The iPhone is not worth $399 or $499, no phone is.
I agree. I wonder how this will affect the pricing of other yet-to-be-released high-end phones, such as the Nokia N95? There's a lot of them available already on eBay, and surely many more to come.

AdamB

join:2001-01-07
Westerville, OH

About time?

I really don't see why AT&T didn't do this before. But now that they see the iPhone can sell like hotcakes at full retail price, it should really explode with a subsidy. I know I plan on getting one when my Verizon contract expires.

R4M0N
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Call me when it's free

I don't pay for cellphones.
Skippy25

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Re: Call me when it's free

I am with you on this. It is ridiculous what they charge for phones when they cost a fraction of the retail price to actually produce. But I guess as there are enough idiots out there willing to spend the money, they will continue to over charge them. What killed me the most is when soo many of these idiots then bitched about them suddenly dropping the price a little while back.

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said by R4M0N See Profile :

I don't pay for cellphones.
I'm the opposite, I rather buy the cellphone and not enter into a contract, then get a free phone, and be forced into a contract.

fcisler
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Re: Call me when it's free

I'm going to have phone service for 2 years, actually more than that.

I know AT&T and like their service.

Why wouldn't I want to be "forced" into a contract if it saves me $200+?

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Re: Call me when it's free

said by fcisler See Profile :

I'm going to have phone service for 2 years, actually more than that.

I know AT&T and like their service.

Why wouldn't I want to be "forced" into a contract if it saves me $200+?
I never said you shouldn't, I was relating my experience. I like to know that I have the power to transfer my service to another wireless carrier if my current provider isn't performing as expected - without any ETF.

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Re: Buying phone.

said by Rob See Profile I'm the opposite, I rather buy the cellphone and not enter into a contract, then get a free phone, and be forced into a contract.
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I'm with you. No phone is worth a contract. If I can't buy it outright, I don't buy it, period.
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while I do pay for a phone - I never pay more than $70 and I will keep it till it dies/breaks and not a moment sooner. because of that - I am contract free and have been for over a year with Verizon.

I wish I could get back with Cincy Bell since they do not have any contracts at all but since my IL's are on my plan and they have a contract, we have good service, and we use virtually no minutes since all we do is call each other - no reason to switch.

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Blogger says new iPhone thicker

This report says the 3G iPhone will be thicker:
»www.engadget.com/2008/04/25/the-···thicker/
The first thing people will notice: the 2nd gen iPhone will be about the same size and shape as the first gen.
It will, of course, have 3G. And proper GPS!
The most noticeable physical difference is back of the phone is no longer metal -- the whole thing is glossy black, from top to bottom. The volume buttons are now chrome.
Because it's got a little less metal to deal with, it doesn't have quite as many angular edges. The battery is (still) not removable.
The phone itself will be slightly thicker than the first gen device.

The headphone jack will no longer be recessed, and will finally be flush with the body.
The device itself uses roughly the same size and resolution screen as the first generation product.
No solid word on battery life or storage capacity.

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maybe

just maybe for $200 I'll pick one up

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Re: maybe

said by nuftjedi See Profile :

just maybe for $200 I'll pick one up
I'll just wait on an unlocked one on ebay

odreian615

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ATT just give me a N95 or N96 for 200 bucks


N96
then you can rape my wallet for the next 2 years

tnroroc
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Re: ATT just give me a N95 or N96 for 200 bucks

I have never seen one of those in the flesh, but it IS a sexy looking phone.

S_engineer

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Re: ATT just give me a N95 or N96 for 200 bucks

said by tnroroc See Profile :

I have never seen one of those in the flesh, but it IS a sexy looking phone.
"Sexy phone"??? You need to get out more!

tnroroc
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Re: ATT just give me a N95 or N96 for 200 bucks

The fact that this was your only post to the thread, and it had no connection to the subject, only further proves your not grasping the intent of my post.

Troll on.
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AT&T raising Data Rates to compensate

I read somewhere that they may raise data rates to compensate for the lower phone price.
Joe12345678

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Re: AT&T raising Data Rates to compensate

said by ArgyleDSL See Profile :

I read somewhere that they may raise data rates to compensate for the lower phone price.
Iphone data $40 /m + $5 /h or more for a text plan.

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said by ArgyleDSL See Profile :

I read somewhere that they may raise data rates to compensate for the lower phone price.
Yes, they might do it. They might also impose a 5 GB cap on 3G data plans. I wonder what the current prices for the data plans are. One of my co-workers has a BlackJack which he got about a year ago and he says that he is paying $40 a month for 3G data. One of my friends got Motorola Q9 around the same time I got myself an iPhone (last December) and says that he's paying $20 a month for 3G (no SMS though). I'm paying $20 a month for EDGE on iPhone plus 200 SMS.

Funny thing is that you could have always gotten a current version of iPhone for $200 less. All you had to do is find a mom-and-pop store that resells AT&T and was offering them. The only catch was that a $200 discount would be added to the Early Termination Fee. I believe that if you buy an iPhone from Apple and activate it online or buy it from an official AT&T store, you would pay full retail price but ETF would be $125 and pro-rated. If you buy it from a mon-and-pop store, the ETF would be $325. Of course, if you are planning to stick with AT&T for these 2 years, why not get it from a reseller for less?
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Re: AT&T raising Data Rates to compensate

AT&T doesn't allow their resellers to sell iPhones. You have to go to an AT&T corporate store or an Apple Store.
mike12806

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Milton, MA

value

well, give me a nokia app that can integrate with iTunes and I'd be all over that N96...otherwise I'm keeping my iphone. I mean, a good standalone iPod is 200 bucks...I don't see "rip off" at $299 or even $399.
EPS

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Hm...

Neat, but I'm keeping my iPod touch- most places where I'd go online have WiFi anyway, and at&t's coverage has never been good where I tend to use my phone (this is based more off observations of friends, I've never had an at&t phone myself). The touch is thinner already, too...
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Curious

I bet right now that Apple gets to keep a good part of the kicker instead of AT&T when you activate an iPhone. It wouldn't surprise me at all that instead of the subsidy helping customers, the money just goes to Apple.

Now here's the thing I've never understood though - clearly quite a few iPhones are bought, unlocked and used on other networks. Why hasn't AT&T just required that you are either a customer or become one when buying a phone from them?
EPS

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Re: Curious

Apple and at&t do require that you become a customer- people who unlock their phones and use them on other networks have to bypass the phone's security to do so, and Apple software updates tend to make unlocked phones unusable... but that doesn't stop people from doing it.
Fluker

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Re: Curious

right.

I'm wondering why they don't simply refuse to sell phones to people who don't have/or refuse to get contracts.

Is it some sort of in boarding to require a contract when selling a device?

Seems like unlocking would just about be a moot point if AT&T required you to have a contract before they let you buy the phone.
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Finally, an iPhone that isn't just crap.

Aha. If I add a line to the family plan in my household, that'll probably be in the top five list of choices of what we get next. It looks ugly, though; I wouldn't want to be seen actually having it with me. It looks dumb. Hopefully they'll upgrade the look to be more machine-looking, or something.

HSDPA, GPS, and =$200 were prettymuch requirements for that phone. We were never going to get it in its current retarded format at the outrageous prices it was set at, especially with a 2 year contract!
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OMG!

I would so buy this phone!

only $200 for something that nice?

ATT coverage is just about the best in the Bay Area, and I love the apple iPhone, it used to be just too expensive...

ooh i can't wait!

HSDPA is the same as 3G, right? - just a different way to say it?
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dustman81

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Sweetness

This works out quite well. My contract with Sprint expires next month and with a 3G (HSDPA) version of the iPhone set to be released and a $200 discount from AT&T next month, looks like I'm heading to the AT&T store in June.

elijahblake

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what about next feb.

I guess when tv switches to digital and AT&T aquire their newly purchased spectrum they will be releasing another iphone that will work in the 700 mhz range??
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