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New FiOS Pricing Leaked
300 Mbps Will Cost You $205 (Contract, Bundled)
by Karl Bode Monday 04-Jun-2012 tags: Fiber · business · bandwidth · telco · Verizon FiOS
Last week Verizon confirmed our early exclusive report on FiOS tier changes, noting they were significantly increasing several tier speeds (25/25 becomes 50/25, 35/35 becomes 75/35) while introducing a new 300 Mbps down, 65 Mbps up uber tier. Verizon had stated they wouldn't be offering speed details until launch, but The Verge has now gotten a hold of both the new pricing and the launch date: June 17. As you might have expected, there will be some $10 price bumps for some tiers, while some tiers will remain the same.

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The company's lowest 15/5Mbps tier is seeing a $10 rate hike and will now be $65 per month with a two-year contract. The company's 50/25 Mbps tier will cost $75, the same as before despite the speed bump. The company's 75/35 Mbps tier will cost you $85, while the company's 150/65 Mbps tier will cost $95 a month. The shiny and ridiculously-fast new 300 Mbps tier will cost $205 a month.

Those are all of course bundled and contracted prices, so you'll pay $5 more if you want standalone broadband without a phone line, and another $5 if you want to forgo a contract. Verizon says the company's 150 Mbps and 300 Mbps tiers require a $100 equipment upgrade fee and two to four hour service call, a fee that's waived if you sign a two-year contract, are a new customer, or already have Verizon's top-shelf 150 Mbps service. Also of note: VDSL users in apartment buildings won't be seeing speed hikes, as illustrated in the chart above.

Last month Verizon CFO Fran Shammo warned that the hikes were coming, claiming that recent high customer satisfaction scores justify a higher price point, even though paltry competition is a more likely motivation. Also gone, according to Shammo, is many of the aggressive triple play bundle deals users may have gotten used to. Critics of Verizon's cable industry deal will likely argue that the hikes indicate the sort of "wink wink" faux competition with cable pricing they expected, while Verizon can argue to regulators still reviewing those deals that the fact they offer 300 Mbps means they're still being highly competitive.

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HardwareGeek

join:2003-11-15
Brooklyn, NY

I got a deal!

I got a hell of a deal then!!

If the 150 Mbps is $95, me paying for a triple play package with the 150 Mbps for only $129.99 is a steal IMO.
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moldypickle

join:2009-01-04
Haughton, LA

Re: I got a deal!

i pay almost that for basic digital cable and 20/2.....

OOOOhhhhhhhh the money Verizon could have made in the long run if they continued to spend right now on building out more FIOS. Not covering all of America, but at least ALL the major pop centers. A deal like that would have everyone signing up
BosstonesOwn

join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA

Re: I got a deal!

Except the ludites who don't like change of course. I know many folks in Fios territory who are afraid to change because comcasts commercials about the lack of on demand, yet they don't use on demand. Go figure!
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elefante72

join:2010-12-03
East Amherst, NY
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Re: I got a deal!

Hmm,

I just looked at last months bill. In there it specifically states that my 25/25 is $45.99 and I am on month-to-month (locked in rate until end of this year)--now this is the triple play.

If you look at the unbundled prices that is now $79 which is a whopping 75pct raise. Even when I originally enquired on enet only it was $54 lat year, so this is a $20/month uplift.

Originally they offered me month-to-month with no difference in price, then they tacked $5 on, then $10 (it became $64), else a 2 year contract.

I have learned that service contracts are a bad idea, so I don't do them. People evaluate them but the aggravation and minor perceived savings is not worth it unless you have SLA's and penalties. Most consumer contracts are violently slanted toward the supplier, not the consumer so this makes them even less valuable.

Just last week I got a flyer from TWC $30 for 15/2 for 1 year, and no cable modem fee if you have one (I still have mine ).

15/2 will stream multiple hi-def and in my area TWC was great and they actually got 15/2.

The point is that Verizon is quickly pricing itself out of the market and with substandard FIOS penetration rates it is like they are asking for FIOS to fail so they can offload it

NormanS
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said by moldypickle:

i pay almost that for basic digital cable and 20/2.....

OOOOhhhhhhhh the money Verizon could have made in the long run if they continued to spend right now on building out more FIOS. Not covering all of America, but at least ALL the major pop centers ...

Only those POP centers in VZ territory. They would never bring FiOS to 'snfc%n%.pacbell.net', 'sntc%n%.pacbell.net', or 'pltn%n%.pacbell.net'. Or to any other non-VZ POP center.
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tshirt
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It's cost them $23 billion to cover a small portion of their footprint, and probably would have been in the hundreds of billion$ to cover ALMOST all of their original footprint.
They only would make money, even in the VERY long run, if they can charge enough to pay that debt plus operating expenses plus profit.
given the lackluster take rates even at current low/loss leader monthly rates, isn't likely to encourage to them to expand, or in some areas even complete the current build out.
MOST homes have little need for those speeds, FEW small businesses need those speeds.
xrobertcmx
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Re: I got a deal!

You may want to google that, the build out was largely financed by the existing infrastructure budget. The claim that it cost that much to build was wildly inflated and the cost was spread across many years. Also by building the fiber network VZ benefited in not having to allow any of the (surviving) existing competitors to share it. Not that any are really left. The lackluster take rates vary from region to region. Many former Aldephia areas have seen large shifts from Comcast to VZ. Not to mention that if you look at the money they are making from it the subscriber rates must be pretty good.

References
»www.huffingtonpost.com/bruce-kus···287.html
»www.newtelecomblogs.com/2012/01/···-for-q4/
I just have to find that article about former Adelphia territories.
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jims2321

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If you deduct the money they got from the universal service fee, their was was close to zero or they may have made money on FIOS. No teleco loses money these days, they are federally subsidized by the taxpayers via the USF.
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NormanS
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Re: I got a deal!

said by jims2321:

If you deduct the money they got from the universal service fee, their was was close to zero or they may have made money on FIOS. No teleco loses money these days, they are federally subsidized by the taxpayers via the USF.

USF isn't a tax. No tax money is transferred from the government to the telcos.

The USF is not mandated by a government entity with tax power, nor is it managed by a government agency.
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Chubbysumo

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said by HardwareGeek:

I got a hell of a deal then!!

If the 150 Mbps is $95, me paying for a triple play package with the 150 Mbps for only $129.99 is a steal IMO.

Its just rate hikes disgused as increased speeds. It probably doesnt cost Verizon much to bump someones speeds from 150mbps to 300, since there is the capacity in the fiber already, and their plan should have the backbone for it. Now, lets just wait for the cable industries answer to this rate hike. I see cable based speeds of 150mbps down and 15 up fairly soon over cable HFCs.
iansltx

join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
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Re: I got a deal!

How soon? Keep in mind that speeds like that would require a couple high quality upstream channels and six or more down streams, otherwise peak times would see lower speeds.

But hey, if they can pull it off, I'm all for it.
Chubbysumo

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Superior, WI
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Re: I got a deal!

said by iansltx:

How soon? Keep in mind that speeds like that would require a couple high quality upstream channels and six or more down streams, otherwise peak times would see lower speeds.

But hey, if they can pull it off, I'm all for it.

well, to keep up with FiOS offerings in those markets, it would have to be really soon. a 4 bonded channel cable modem will probably see realistic speeds of 150mbps download, and a single upload channel can get you up to 42mbps(33 realistically because of shared channel limitations and no channel bonding), so, it would not be surprising to see these from cable companies soon. I have heard hints from the local charter office employees about charter increasing upload speeds(albeit, on a single channel), and that would be awesome.
iansltx

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Re: I got a deal!

You can't realistically expect 150 Mbps deliver speeds over four channels, because you still have other people on the node. You would need more channels...which is fine, because eight channel bonded modems are out now.

As for the upstream path, usable capacity on a fully upgraded, wide, 64qAM channel, is 30 Mbps. Which means that real world, delivered in ammulti user environment, speeds would be 20 Mbps at most.

That said, many areas are limited to 16QAM upstream channels, which only have 10 Mbps of capacity. Hence cableco offerings that top out at 5 Mbps up.

tshirt
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Re: I got a deal!

That assumes only 8 channels to the node... There may be many channels to a given node, any single modem will currently be assigned a max of 8 of them
iansltx

join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
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Re: I got a deal!

True. However I'd be surprised if any cable provider in the Us was reliably deploying more than eight DOCSIS downstream carriers at this point.

tshirt
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Re: I got a deal!

I'm saying the potential to virtualize many combonations of 8 is there on physical nodes which can be added as needed. Cable can continue adding capacity WHEN there is demand.
FTTH has a huge initial install sunk cost, basically the same for 15/15 customers as a 300/65 which sits there costing money even with no subs to pay for it.

dvd536
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said by Chubbysumo:

said by iansltx:

How soon? Keep in mind that speeds like that would require a couple high quality upstream channels and six or more down streams, otherwise peak times would see lower speeds.

But hey, if they can pull it off, I'm all for it.

well, to keep up with FiOS offerings in those markets, it would have to be really soon. a 4 bonded channel cable modem will probably see realistic speeds of 150mbps download, and a single upload channel can get you up to 42mbps(33 realistically because of shared channel limitations and no channel bonding), so, it would not be surprising to see these from cable companies soon. I have heard hints from the local charter office employees about charter increasing upload speeds(albeit, on a single channel), and that would be awesome.

a 4 bonded channel cable modem will probably see realistic speeds of 150mbps download if they were alone on the node[NOT LIKELY]

Aron

@verizon.net
I'm not an expert at this BUT:
These faster speeds are virtually useless. Throttling prevents any real use of the speed IMO, and for those who think the internet "will shut down", don't really understand how it works.
Faster speeds means faster downloads of data, which translates in to LESS stress on servers/backbone.
Think of the way race cars get their tanks filled. 5 gallons in less than 3 seconds, where the gas station takes a couple minutes.
SAME content but the faster delivery, takes the demand "offline" nearly immediately.
Same holds true for servers capable of "serving" data that quickly.
FILE DOWNLOADS. I have a FiOS 25/15 service. The Fastest sustained download speed I've ever seen is when downloading MS OFFICE TRIAL, at about 3.5 MBS .

This faster speed does not translate into better movie quality, with say NETFLIX either, WHY? Because Netflix won't allow the data rates to make excellent movie quality a reality.

IN SHORT: Throttling at the server level will likely make these incredible speeds a waste of money.

NormanS
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Re: I got a deal!

said by Aron :

I'm not an expert at this BUT:
These faster speeds are virtually useless. Throttling prevents any real use of the speed IMO, and for those who think the internet "will shut down", don't really understand how it works.

Indeed, but it is not "throttling" which is the bottleneck. You can't pull data from my server at 1000 MB/s if my upload is only 512 kb/s.
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Aron

@verizon.net

Re: I got a deal!

True, and that is the point. You can only get the data as fast as it is able to be served, whether by hardware restriction or software.

Basically, you are attaching a 300mbs straw to their 512k straw. The "Vacuum" won't pull it through any faster! It's ONLY gonna come in at that 512kbs.

And that's my argument/point. The download speeds that VZ FiOS offer will be of use only to a scarce few, hence those who also serve/receive at blazing speeds.

NickD
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What about most web sites being hosted in data centers with gigabits of bandwidth? They should be able to put out enough data to fill even a 300 megabit connection. The biggest bottleneck is consumer's wi-fi routers. Sure, they advertise 150 mbps speeds, but you have to be right on top of the router to get that speed. In the next room, you only get 20 mbps. 3 rooms away, you get 2 mbps.

Bill786786

@verizon.net
I hate to tell you but your 25 meg service is actually megabit not megabyte. your 3.5Meg download is actually 3.5Megabytes X 8 = 28 Megabits. You are getting what you pay for and a little extra. I have the 50/25 service and I routinely pug the connection out at 50meg when downloading from Apple/Msoft/Vmware etc.

dvd536
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said by Chubbysumo:

said by HardwareGeek:

I got a hell of a deal then!!

If the 150 Mbps is $95, me paying for a triple play package with the 150 Mbps for only $129.99 is a steal IMO.

Its just rate hikes disgused as increased speeds. It probably doesnt cost Verizon much to bump someones speeds from 150mbps to 300, since there is the capacity in the fiber already, and their plan should have the backbone for it. Now, lets just wait for the cable industries answer to this rate hike. I see cable based speeds of 150mbps down and 15 up fairly soon over cable HFCs.

yeah. notice upstream rates not moving[which can always be used] unlike token downstream boosts which go largely unused.

Endy
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enthuz

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Hampton, VA
said by HardwareGeek:

I got a hell of a deal then!!

If the 150 Mbps is $95, me paying for a triple play package with the 150 Mbps for only $129.99 is a steal IMO.

I pay that for 35/35 TP, but I have the higher TV package and am not in NY...you lucky guy!

fiosgeek

@charter.com
fios doesnt offer contracts with the above 35 meg speed...
majortom1029

join:2006-10-19
Lindenhurst, NY
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Here in NY

This officially makes fios 15/5 speeds with no package $20 more a month then cablevisions internet.

Fios has to be carefull especially in the NYC area with cablevision. If Fios gets too much more then cablevision people will switch back.

SHoTTa35

@optonline.net

Re: Here in NY

Happy with my 50/8 but 75/35 (more upload) wouldn't be too bad also. As a stand alone though it's $20 more than than CV (granted more speed too!) so i prolly could swing that. The 50/25 though is $10 more just for the extra upload.

Guess we'll see what CV does when it comes to those kinda bragging rights*, IMO that's all they are for

* Most people should be happy with 75Mbps and lower, only super heavy users would need 150/300Mbps plans.

Linklist
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said by majortom1029:

This officially makes fios 15/5 speeds with no package $20 more a month then cablevisions internet.

Fios has to be carefull especially in the NYC area with cablevision. If Fios gets too much more then cablevision people will switch back.

And the 15/5 speed is what most Verizon customers use. Only people like those who come to dslreports pay for higher speeds.
openbox9
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Re: Here in NY

said by Linklist:

And the 15/5 speed is what most Verizon customers use.

That's what I pay for. I'm getting ready to move. Looks like I'm getting out just in time. If I was staying in VZ territory, I'd probably switch back to Cox's HSI and save $30/mth.
IanR

join:2001-03-22
Madison, NJ
At these FIOS prices many people will look to move back to Cablevision in my area. I love speed but frankly 15/5 gets me what I need with HD streaming video etc. 99% of users do not need a higher speed. This and people coming off TriplePlay deals look to have Verizon smack them around. Ergo good for V shareholders, bad for V customers.
Telco

join:2008-12-19
Wait until Mitt comes in and all MUNI FTTH projects are made illegal. The prices will jump even higher.

Linklist
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Re: Here in NY

said by Telco:

Wait until Mitt comes in and all MUNI FTTH projects are made illegal. The prices will jump even higher.

That is a ridiculous assertion. The federal government has nothing to do with that. That is a state decision.
Telco

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Re: Here in NY

said by Linklist:

That is a ridiculous assertion. The federal government has nothing to do with that. That is a state decision.

Of course. It's not as if the GOP cohorts on the state levels have pushed to ban local MUNI from rolling out their own FTTH. [/sarcasm]

Not to mention, because of various Fed agencies abroad, these "socialists" receive significantly faster speeds, pay less, and have significantly more competition; which is the bedrock of any 'market economy'.

The Republican establishment's ideologically driven stance on Big Government has cost us dearly over the decades. And done so by delivering ever increased profits and dividends to the 1%.

dvd536
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said by majortom1029:

This officially makes fios 15/5 speeds with no package $20 more a month then cablevisions internet.

Fios has to be carefull especially in the NYC area with cablevision. If Fios gets too much more then cablevision people will switch back.

doubtful. fios doesn't have the peak hour slowdowns that cable does. only people switching back will be those working the swing shift[3pm - 11pm]

Linklist
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Re: Here in NY

said by dvd536:

said by majortom1029:

This officially makes fios 15/5 speeds with no package $20 more a month then cablevisions internet.

Fios has to be carefull especially in the NYC area with cablevision. If Fios gets too much more then cablevision people will switch back.

doubtful. fios doesn't have the peak hour slowdowns that cable does. only people switching back will be those working the swing shift[3pm - 11pm]

That all depends on where you live and how heavily loaded your local node is. I'm on Comcast and see no peak hour slowdowns at all in my area.
iansltx

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I know which tier I'd get

The pricing on all tiers up to 150M is pretty close, between one tier and the next one up. The speed of 150M, particularly on the upload side, is just excellent for the price (since this is the US we're in). As such, if I were in a FiOS area, I wouldn't think twice about shelling out for that level of connectivity. 300M is just a bragging-rights tier at this point, but 150M seems like the sweet spot to me, despite it's rather high absolute price.

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$65 for 15/5? $55 for 3Mb? Ouch, way overpriced IMO

Seems overpriced to me compared to their larger MSO competitors. Cox in my neck of the woods does 25/2 for that $65. I would have figured that the 15/2 would be the go to standard $50 deal. And $55 for 3Mb? So much for competition bringing down rates. Verizon execs weren't too happy with FiOS adoption rates before and they shouldn't expect it to be any better now.

Price is king and they can raise speeds all they want but it is triple play promos that will get them subscribers. VZ does triple play for $95 for 2 years with the 15/5 plan. Given these prices that is basic cable + HD + unlimited calling for an additional $30 and you get a $250 Visa gift card.

These non-promo prices from Verizon are absurdly high.

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OwlSaver
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If I wanted 300 I would get two 150s

If I get the 300/65 it costs me $205 per month. If I get two 150/65 and bond them together, I get 300/130 for $190 per month. So, I have to do some configuring and I may loose a little speed but I save $15 a month. I guess if I really wanted that, I would actually keep it simple and get the 300/65. But that ricing does seem a little strange. I will stick with my 35/35 package until the next renewal.

I have had Cable in the past and it is not even close to FiOS in terms of stability and consistency of speed. I run several monitors and can count on one hand the number of times I have gone below the promised level the past few years. While on cable I saw more such drop outs in a day. Of course, the end user may or may not notice this. I just like to know that it is stable.

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battleop

join:2005-09-28
00000

Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!

300Mb and not place to use it outside of bittorrent. It's similar to EPB's Gig to the home. They know that no one can really utilize it on a sustained basis so it's easy to add the 300Mb tier just so they can say their dick is bigger than Comcast's.
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openbox9
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Re: Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Yes, it's marketing for now. My guess is that much more than 20 Mbps download tends to be a marketing gimmick for a vast majority of people. Upload may be different, but so far most ISPs are still focusing on advertising download throughputs.
WernerSchutz

join:2009-08-04
Sugar Land, TX
A few simultaneous streams FTP from video sites.

The fact that you do not know about it does not make it "only bittorrent".

battleop

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00000

Re: Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Which legit video site offers FTP?

SysOp

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said by battleop:

WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!

300Mb and not place to use it outside of bittorrent. It's similar to EPB's Gig to the home. They know that no one can really utilize it on a sustained basis so it's easy to add the 300Mb tier just so they can say their dick is bigger than Comcast's.

ksh

join:2010-06-10
Chattanooga, TN

Chattanooga Fiber

I'm still glad I live in Chattanooga:

Chattanooga's EPB Cost are:
30mbps/30mbps $58
50mbps/50mbps $69
100mbps/100 mbps $139
1gbps/1gbps $349

»epbfi.com/order-now/
www.Chattanoogagig.com
xenophon

join:2007-09-17

Re: Chattanooga Fiber

Looking forward to see what Google charges in KC, supposedly coming in July.

Expected to be under $100/month for 1G and about $50 for 100/100.
ksh

join:2010-06-10
Chattanooga, TN

Re: Chattanooga Fiber

I think everyone in Kansas City is waiting to see what Google charges and when they will begin deployment.

somms

join:2003-07-28
Salt Lake City, UT
said by ksh:

I'm still glad I live in Chattanooga:

Chattanooga's EPB Cost are:
30mbps/30mbps $58
50mbps/50mbps $69
100mbps/100 mbps $139
1gbps/1gbps $349

»epbfi.com/order-now/
www.Chattanoogagig.com

That is a bit on the pricey side...

»www.xmission.com/utopia#more

50/50Mbps is only $35/month with my ISP...Paying $45 for 100Mbps symmetrical FTTH myself!


cableties
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Higher satisfaction?

"...recent high customer satisfaction scores justify a higher price point..."

I guess no one ever talked to the Verizon Billing Department!

Wait... $65 for 15/5 ?

I should shutup then... um... mine is um ..$44...um... (whistling...) and speedtest showed...um... 25/25...la la...
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travisdh1

join:2007-10-20
Wooster, OH

Odd highest tier price.

At least most of the pricing seems to follow a nice pattern, except for the highest tier. If I can grab a load balancer (or install something like clearos in an old pc) I could pay $190 for 300/130 but 300/65 would run $205.
Ricci

join:2001-11-04
Rutherford, NJ

I'm confused.

I pay $45 today ($50 - $5 discount) for 35/35 with TV subscription (double play).

New price is $75? Really? I believe I'm missing something.
Klownicle

join:2005-03-15
Sarasota, FL

Re: I'm confused.

I run 35/35 myself also for the simliar price, I had 20/5 I think before and paid 10$ more to get the speed increase. I'm hoping that when it comes down to it. It will be a simliar situation; 10$ more and I get 75mbit. As it says 35/35 is going to 75/35, then the price should be in a similar bracket as before. Not 25-30$ more.

Then again, those are "FiOS Standalone" Speeds. Not with TV Bundles etc.
FixManTx
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Farmington, MN
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Wish I could get FIOS....

You guys can complain about prices all you want, but I'm stuck out in the boonies where the only broadband that is available is cable 10/1 @ $60/mo. My buddy and I were used to 25/25 FIOS back in Dallas but we had to move so we're stuck in the slow lane. He downloads movies since we can't afford cable TV and when he does my game latency goes through the roof and even simple web browsing gets rather slow due to the upload being saturated. He finally found a bandwidth limiter that keeps the upload from being saturated and I can do my normal stuff.

redxii
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Sherwood, MI

Re: Wish I could get FIOS....

That ain't the boonies.. try no broadband, using cellphone hotspot, max 1.5 if lucky. Can't game or watch videos.
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join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
kudos:4

hmmmmmm

looks like fios is even moving away from symmetrical speeds
axus

join:2001-06-18
Washington, DC

Re: hmmmmmm

The upload is really what's important, not the ratio. FIOS is beating cable on both sides. I'd say that FIOS may be pricing themselves too high, but because there are duopolies, the cable companies will simply raise their prices to match.

Streetlight

join:2005-11-07
Colorado Springs, CO

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Prices seem very high

I'm a Comcast subscriber in Colorado, so we're not likely to ever get anything like fiber to the home. However, the price for the lower bandwidth tiers seem awfully high compared to what we pay here.

My 12/2 Internet service is $42.95/month and will never go up because in out area we have price for life with double-play as long as we don't change our options. For those who were not eligible for Price For Life, there have been a couple of $2 price increases for this service, though the speeds are something like 16/2 for ~$48/month + or -.

On Friday, I streamed a two hour HBO Go movie to a WiFi connected laptop to an HD TV using HDMI, and the Audio-Video presentation was perfect with a fabulous visual appearance. Not a single glitch. Viewing the bandwidth using NetMeter, it seemed that stream buffered at 8 Mb/s for a while, waited about the same amount of time and buffered again at 8 MB/s, and repeated during the time of the stream. The total stream was about 2.5 GBytes. This seemed like a pretty good stress test. FYI: speed tests show consistently 12.7 Mb/s down, 2.0 up and 1.50 MB/s download speeds for large downloads. This is extremely reliable.

My household consists of just my wife and me, as we're empty nesters and not likely to be streaming more than one movie at a time using internet. For normal Internet use (surfing, email, windows updates,etc.) we get by just fine. Thus, the 12/2 plan seems just fine for our needs now.

It'll be interesting to see what happens to competitive cable company prices in FIOS areas and the number of folks switching to cable from FIOS depending on Cable's response.
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A. C. Doyle
Strand Magazine, October 1891
viafax999

join:2000-06-03
Westford, MA

I'm on a tier that doesn't exist any more

I'm on a 25/25 tier prseumably grandfathered in from sevral years back. Went to check my bundle and found that for the same price I could be getting 35/35 - that says I would be paying the same internet rate as I am now $31.99.
I could upgrade today and take another 2 year contract and they'd also throw in a $250 debit card which would take off another $10+ per month over the 2 years but then would I be eligible for the bump to 75/35 as of 6/17?
enthuz

join:2009-08-08
Hampton, VA

Re: I'm on a tier that doesn't exist any more

That is my question too. I took them up on the same deal and increased some offerings to keep it the same...lower when I return some unused STBs. I would love the 75/35 speed bump.
quintin3265

join:2008-06-07
State College, PA
Reviews:
·Comcast

No caps

The significant part of this announcement is that there are no caps on this service. I would pay $90/month for 15Mbps service with no caps, let alone 150Mbps service.

Comcast puts its caps at 300GB, but with these speeds, such caps look ridiculous. There will be users pulling down 5TB/month easily.

BF69
Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN

Re: No caps

said by quintin3265:

The significant part of this announcement is that there are no caps on this service. I would pay $90/month for 15Mbps service with no caps, let alone 150Mbps service.

Charter business internet doesn't have caps and you can get 20 Mbps for $80 a month. Or for $88 a month you can get residential 100 Mbps with a 500 GB cap.

Comcast puts its caps at 300GB, but with these speeds, such caps look ridiculous. There will be users pulling down 5TB/month easily.

They won't be downloading 5 TB legally that's for sure.

NickD
Premium
join:2000-11-17
Princeton Junction, NJ

Re: No caps

A large family with everyone watching Netflix for several hours a day
YukonHawk

join:2001-01-07
Patterson, NY

Wish I had FIOS

I know..WAH WAH WAH!!! LOL!

XANAVirus
Premium
join:2012-03-03
Lavalette, WV

Re: Wish I had FIOS

Same here!

antdude
A Ninja Ant
Premium,VIP
join:2001-03-25
United State
kudos:4

Give me FIOS!

I am in Verizon and a supported city, but not in my neighborhood.

BF69
Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN

What good is 300 Mbps anyways?

There isn't anything that will let you use that speed and unless you have 50 devices connected to the internet at once I'm not seeing the benefit.
pappy97

join:2007-03-12
Dallas, TX

Re: What good is 300 Mbps anyways?

said by BF69:

There isn't anything that will let you use that speed and unless you have 50 devices connected to the internet at once I'm not seeing the benefit.

With Usenet newsgroups, you can get full speed for downloads and with one person make plenty of use for it. I can't myself justify 300Mbps down because the computer I want to use for usenet newsgroups is connected to my router wirelessly (via 802.11n 5 Ghz), but still isn't getting anywhere near 300 Mbps speed between the router and the computer.

But if I could in my set up and the price wasn't outrageous, I'd easily do it. Right now I'm probably deciding between 75 down tier and the 150 down tier once the new speeds are out, I'm on 25/25 now for a killer price of $45.99/month.

Price difference between 75 and 150 is negligible to me (BUT of course, the reps could give good discounts, and also bundle with phone as I already have TV through DirecTV), but I'm on BPON and don't really want to wait for them to upgrade me to GPON, which I heard in my area could take up to 2 months after an order is placed.

aaronwt
Premium
join:2004-11-07
Woodbridge, VA
Reviews:
·Verizon FiOS
said by BF69:

There isn't anything that will let you use that speed and unless you have 50 devices connected to the internet at once I'm not seeing the benefit.

50 devices? With one PC I max my 43mb/s download speeds with Microsoft updates. And if I do all six PCs it takes even longer sharing the bandwidth between them.

SysOp

join:2001-04-18
Douglasville, GA
Reviews:
·voip.ms
·T-Mobile US

Going to need a bigger Hard Drive


And did I read that right? The base price is only $5 more without a contract and unbundled?

What is an extra five bucks at this point?
tmc8080

join:2004-04-24
Brooklyn, NY
Reviews:
·ooma
·Optimum Online
·Verizon FiOS

pricing

the stand-alone pricing is a COMPLETE RIPOFF! $60 for 3/1 dsl HAH!
watch how this backfires on verizon, as consumers flock to cable companies! the higher speeds really don't matter much amid much higher prices except to have customers cancel service. it's going to be a LOOONG wait on hold to get a customer service rep to cancel service because you aren't alone...

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