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| Might be good, I hope. I'd certainly like the thought of this, since I can't afford any other console.
But the phrase "modified, HD-capable Wii variant" scares me. If I'd have to buy another minimally-upgraded console just to get this (when I don't even have an HDTV), they can forget it.
It worries me because it sounds like a typical Nintendo gambit: make a hotly-anticipated feature only available on the next slightly-altered iteration of the same thing (see: GB/GBC/GBA, DS/DSlite/DSi).
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| Re: Might be good, I hope. said by Sabre  :It worries me because it sounds like a typical Nintendo gambit: make a hotly-anticipated feature only available on the next slightly-altered iteration of the same thing (see: GB/GBC/GBA, DS/DSlite/DSi). Yeah, cause that's behavior exclusively exhibited by Nintendo. Microsoft and Sony would never dream of coming out with a game or new functionalty that's only compatible with new consoles. | |
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| Re: Might be good, I hope. Oh, absolutely true.
I had no intention of hating only on Nintendo; I only mentioned them in particular because they're the only one of those I've had extensive experience with. My apologies for making it seem like I was being one-sided.
What I dislike in what Nintendo does is much the same as I see with Apple (and I dislike it in them, too): that each new "variation" on their console-of-the-moment has only tiny adjustments (like it's a little bit smaller, has one extra port, a little bit brighter, has one new feature, etc.) and is mostly, but not entirely, backward compatible. At least Microsoft and Sony, when they come out with a new console, for the most part, it's a massive upgrade. Of course, given what I've heard of the PSP/PSPgo, it's becoming a similar matter there too.
All that said, though, your point is well taken.
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| said by Sabre :But the phrase "modified, HD-capable Wii variant" scares me. If I'd have to buy another minimally-upgraded console just to get this (when I don't even have an HDTV), they can forget it. After thinking a bit more about it, I wonder if the Wii can support the processing demands of streaming Netflix. On my modest 2.0GHz dual core business computer, a typical movie takes up ~70% of the CPU time. A Wii has a 729Mhz processor. That may not be enough to run a full screen streaming "flash" video. | |
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| Re: Might be good, I hope. That is because your PC is not offloading the video processing of HD stream to the graphics card. Newer codecs/players are able to to this with the proper graphics card.
The Wii will be able to do this, otherwise it wouldn't make sense to implement Netflix streaming on it.
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4 edits | Re: Might be good, I hope. said by jhboricua :That is because your PC is not offloading the video processing of HD stream to the graphics card. Newer codecs/players are able to to this with the proper graphics card. The Wii will be able to do this, otherwise it wouldn't make sense to implement Netflix streaming on it. 3 MB RAM embedded GPU LOL sounds like a old computer from 1998
you need at lest 128MB to 256MB VRAM
to get 720p or 1080p
also the component cables are like a 30$ add on NO digital out such as HDMI etc......
ALSO TRY LOADING A YOUTUBE VIDEO ON THE WII IT TAKES UPTO 20min'S TO LOAD ONE on a 10mbit | |
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
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1 edit | said by Sabre :I'd certainly like the thought of this, since I can't afford any other console. Ok the Wii is $200 the XBOX 360 an PS3 are $250. So you can't afford an extra $50? If money is that tight why not just get a Roku box and stream Netflix that way? Those are $100. | |
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| Re: Might be good, I hope. said by BF69 :Ok the Wii is $200 the XBOX 360 an PS3 are $250. So you can't afford an extra $50? If money is that tight why not just get a Roku box and stream Netflix that way? Those are $100. Are you saying he just needs to drag his wii and $50 down to the store and he can get a new 360?
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tiger72
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cobo6
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rackman
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Houston, TX | You can use Netflix on your Wii today with Playon Works great...no disk and you also have access to Youtube, Hulu, etc. | |
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cdru
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| Re: You can use Netflix on your Wii today with Playon I think the point is to bring something native to the Wii instead of relying on the PC as a middle man. I haven't used PlayOn as I didn't realize they had a Wii beta currently. But I have tried a variety of add ons for VMC that tried to integrate/hack Netflix (prior to them releasing the official plug in) or Hulu support and they worked...just not great. | |
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| said by rackman :Works great...no disk and you also have access to Youtube, Hulu, etc. I have both a Roku box and Playon for PS3. A native player is far far better. Playon is just not reliable and the quality is not as good. Relying on a PC to stream is hokey. It's great news that Netflix will have native players for all consoles.
I do hope that the PS3 player will support Netflix HD streams as Roku does. Not many players do. | |
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
| said by rackman :Works great...no disk and you also have access to Youtube, Hulu, etc. Try going to the playon forums and you can see that Netflix has CONSTANT issues. As far as Hulu you can kiss that good bye next year when they start charging. | |
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| Re: You can use Netflix on your Wii today with Playon said by BF69 : As far as Hulu you can kiss that good bye next year when they start charging. Hulu is NOT going to charge for the vast majority of content on their site(TV series, old & new). They are looking in to charging for Premium content(like 1st run movies just out of the theaters) only. | |
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| Re: You can use Netflix on your Wii today with Playon said by TKJunkMail :said by BF69 : As far as Hulu you can kiss that good bye next year when they start charging. Hulu is NOT going to charge for the vast majority of content on their site(TV series, old & new). They are looking in to charging for Premium content(like 1st run movies just out of the theaters) only. LINK? | |
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| Re: You can use Netflix on your Wii today with Playon said by BF69 :said by TKJunkMail :said by BF69 : As far as Hulu you can kiss that good bye next year when they start charging. Hulu is NOT going to charge for the vast majority of content on their site(TV series, old & new). They are looking in to charging for Premium content(like 1st run movies just out of the theaters) only. LINK? »hollywoodinsider.ew.com/2009/10/···word-no/
A source close to Hulu, however, tells EW that the site remains steadfastly committed to free content, explaining that any possible subscription or pay-per-view service has no set timeline and would only build upon what Hulu offers, not replace it.
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| Re: You can use Netflix on your Wii today with Playon Sounds like a rumor and a bunch of bullshit. If you believe that I have a few gold mines in Florida I'd to sell you. | |
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| Re: You can use Netflix on your Wii today with Playon said by BF69 :I have a few gold mines in Florida I'd to sell you. You're going to have to start a new topic about them then, that is off topic.
Also... if you haven't sold them already let me know, I'm very interested.
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| Re: It would be a mistake... said by Boomerang86 :to add HD capability to the existing Wii console; it's been on the market for nearly THREE YEARS already with only firmware updates. The smart thing for Nintendo to do is to add HD and streaming video functionality to the (eventual) successor to the Wii console. The original Wii could continue to be sold as a value model, while the next generation console could be made backwards compatible with existing Wii software. Sony did it with the Playstation line successfully for almost a decade. That would be a bigger mistake if you did that in 2010. A new HD Wii console sold alongside the existing Wii as a value model? That will alienate the two market segments. The Wii's biggest success is the fact that anyone can pick it up and play it. It also means that any soccer mom can go to Target and buy a Wii game and it works. Making games that are now "Wii HD Only" complicates things.
It makes better sense to release an external scaler/hard drive for the existing Wii. You do not need distribute new developmental kits to the 3rd party developers. They merely continue to make Wii games - the scaler will upscale the 480p image to 720p - there is your "HD" gaming. The hard drive needs to work in conjuntion with the scaler to stream true 720p Netflix right to the TV. | |
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1 edit | Re: It would be a mistake... Why would it be impossible to run HD games at 480p?
Computer games have quality, detail, and resolution settings to run on older less capable hardware. There is no reason wii games can't use the same techniques.
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| Re: It would be a mistake... 480p is not HD. Many Xbox 360 games are native in sub-HD resolutions - including Halo 3 and the Call of Duty series. It's the console that scales to 720p to handoff to the TV. Some TVs upscale great, others don't. A scaler on the Wii gives the power of quality control to Nintendo. It also gives them the ability to make games that will work without the scaler, but could come optimized for an HD peripheral. | |
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| Re: It would be a mistake... I never said 480p was HD. I am saying games meant for 720p can be displayed at 480p and rendered at 480p by the older hardware.
The only issue here is if a game designed for HD can be ran by older non HD Wiis.
As long as they can be, then there is no issue. New games can support HD but still run on the older Wiis. | |
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| XBOX Users With the recent announcements of Netflix for PS3 and Wii, this really negatively impacts Xbox because I know as an Xbox owner, I didn't take advantage of this service because you have to have Xbox Gold subscription. As far as I can tell you only need Netflix account for the PS3 and Wii - so when are they going to open up the service to all Xbox users?
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| said by ExecPro :With the recent announcements of Netflix for PS3 and Wii, this really negatively impacts Xbox because I know as an Xbox owner, I didn't take advantage of this service because you have to have Xbox Gold subscription. As far as I can tell you only need Netflix account for the PS3 and Wii - so when are they going to open up the service to all Xbox users? They won't that's not MS way. The money yo gave for the console and the games isn't enough. You're required to get special memberships to play games or get added features. You get half produced games which require you to pony up for an "expansion packs". If you need a wireless connection a wi-fi add-on is $100. For a system that likes to brag about it's online gaming it's curious as to why the make it difficult to actually play online. If you want portable game saves can you save them to a 2 GB USB thumb drive you can get for less than $10 like you can with the PS3? Nope. You have to spend $50 for a 512 MB memory card. If you need more HDD space you have to buy a proprietary HDD from MS which is $150 for 120 GB. For the same price you can simply get a laptop HDD and put that in your PS3. And for $150 you can get one that's at least 320 GB. | |
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| Bad timing This would be nice. I missed having Video on Demand after switching to Dish. This would make a nice substitute. Though it sucks I'll need to upgrade to a new console. What do I care if my cartoon graphics are in HD or not? I wouldn't buy another console just to get streaming video. The Wii has lost its sticky factor. I forsee horrible future sales. | |
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| Maybe there's still hope Maybe since they are porting this over to other platforms, I'm hoping a GNU/Linux version will be available to the general public. This would certainly boost Netflix in addition to Wii owners. I do however, agree with the sentiment of "Why do I need to buy ANOTHER device?". | |
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join:2005-02-23
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Buckchop99
join:2007-02-12
Ellicott City, MD | differ maybe I am confused?
Wii $200
Play Station 3 $250
RUKU $100
will the ps3 run blue ray?
and it aslo has a hard drive correct
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apollo80
join:2002-01-31
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| What would be wrong with Netflix on existing Wii's? Ok, so the Wii can go 480p max.
What would be wrong with allowing SD streaming of netflix on the existing Wii systems and upconverting to 480p if you want?
I have an HDTV, have the Wii set up at 480p...ok, so it's not HD, but it's good enough, especially since people already have the existing system. | |
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