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| Re: Game install to Hard Drive! said by Hazy Arc  :I'll finally have to break down and buy the blatantly overpriced 120GB hard drive to replace my crappy 20GB one...cause you're talking 5-8GB+ for each game. But we all know that 120 GB is NOT going to be enough eventually. At least the PS3 let's you add your own HDD. some people have 500 GB HDDs on them. If MS ever came out with a 160 GB HDD I'm sure they'l want $200 for it and prbaly $300 for a 250 GB HDD. | |
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| Re: Game install to Hard Drive! said by MysticGogeta :Yeah that kinda pissed me off on how that's handled but I watch movies on my computer and play games on my 360. Yeah but at 8 GB about a dozen or so downloaded games and you HDD is filled up if that's all you used it for. | |
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| Re: Game install to Hard Drive! said by imrf :Thats just to help out the Arcade and Core buyers. They don't offer an upgrade for the 20GB or 60GB HDD owners. It would have been nice if they offered a cheap upgrade for us 20 and 60GB owners. Right, I realize that. I think MS is realizing their pricing scheme for hard drives is a bit excessive. I think we'll see larger drives at a much lower cost soon. | |
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| Re: And for the Roku users? said by Hazy Arc :Quote from the link in the article... All in all, it's a fantastic interface that makes for a trouble-free user experience. Microsoft nailed it. And we feel bad for Roku. They made a great product, and in one step, Microsoft made it pretty much obsolete. UPDATE: Especially because NXE will debut Netflix HD streaming.
Well for thsoe that don't know PlayOn media streamer can stream Netflix. Not sure if they will include HD streaming but you can do it with either a XBOX 360 or a PS3. Great for those that have a PS3 or have XBOX that don't wish to pay $50 a year for XBL Gold membership. | |
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| All in all, it's a fantastic interface that makes for a trouble-free user experience. Microsoft nailed it. And we feel bad for Roku. They made a great product, and in one step, Microsoft made it pretty much obsolete. UPDATE: Especially because NXE will debut Netflix HD streaming.
Roku is not necessarily useless. The cheapest XBOX is $200 Roku is $100. Even if you use Playon instead of XBL that's $30 one time fee so that's $230 vs $100 if HD streaming doesn't matter to you. | |
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| Netflix and MS running a business model over a competitors infrastructure for free is a problem. To be fair, it's not just Netflix and MS, as there are now an outrageous number of companies doing this. In the end, the only possible outcome will be to accelerate the cap/byte billing process. | |
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| Re: Netflix and MS running a business model said by bcoleman71 :How do you figure they are running a business for free over a competitors infrastructure? Validate your argument because I totally disagree I'm pretys ure they pay for their own bandwidth as do people that use their products. I'm 100% sure when pay my internet bill part of that covers the cost of bandwidth. Face it without CONTENT the ISPs infrastructure is pretty useless because I and millions of other wouldn't pay for internet. | |
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over a competitors infrastructure for free is a problem. To be fair, it's not just Netflix and MS, as there are now an outrageous number of companies doing this. In the end, the only possible outcome will be to accelerate the cap/byte billing process.
Please explain how Netflix and Microsoft are competitors to a company supplying a broadband connection? | |
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over a competitors infrastructure for free is a problem. To be fair, it's not just Netflix and MS, as there are now an outrageous number of companies doing this. In the end, the only possible outcome will be to accelerate the cap/byte billing process.
You are right. All these companies are offloading the costs of delivering their products on to the ISPs. As video content continues to grow, the ISP costs will rise.
In a way it is a smart strategy. They cut their costs and get to blame the ISPs for any cost increases to get movies in to the homes. So all the whining and complaints about costs are aimed at the ISPs and not them.
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| Re: Netflix and MS running a business model said by GOLFnSUN :said by JasonOD :
over a competitors infrastructure for free is a problem. To be fair, it's not just Netflix and MS, as there are now an outrageous number of companies doing this. In the end, the only possible outcome will be to accelerate the cap/byte billing process.
You are right. All these companies are offloading the costs of delivering their products on to the ISPs. As video content continues to grow, the ISP costs will rise. In a way it is a smart strategy. They cut their costs and get to blame the ISPs for any cost increases to get movies in to the homes. So all the whining and complaints about costs are aimed at the ISPs and not them. Epic Fail of an argument. | |
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| Re: Netflix and MS running a business model You are right. All these companies are offloading the costs of delivering their products on to the ISPs. As video content continues to grow, the ISP costs will rise.
In a way it is a smart strategy. They cut their costs and get to blame the ISPs for any cost increases to get movies in to the homes. So all the whining and complaints about costs are aimed at the ISPs and not them.
If that was their strategy that would be stupid because with caps and overage fees that would REDUCE the amount of movies people would get from these sources. Thus they would get REDUCED profits not greater. Flawed logic on your part. If downloading a movie form XBL is going cost cost an extra $6 in overage fees in addition to the cost of the movie guess what, I'm not getting my movie from XBL. I'm getting it form either the cable company or the video store. | |
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| They are offloading nothing. They pay for bandwidth to be able to deliver it. We pay for bandwidth to get it. EVERYONE is being charged for the product and the people you defend religiously are paid twice for the same product.
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| Re: Netflix and MS running a business model said by Skippy25 :They are offloading nothing. They pay for bandwidth to be able to deliver it. We pay for bandwidth to get it. EVERYONE is being charged for the product and the people you defend religiously are paid twice for the same product. If you don't like the way it is working, then attempt to change it in a legal manner or raise the rates and let the market decide. If that is possible in a monopoly/duopoly market. If not, then let the regulators/voters deal with it. His arguement is like the owner of a toll road expecting the restaurant to pay them a fee because their customers used the toll road to get there, despite the fact the toll road already get money from said customers and the fact that the resturant is part of the reason they are on the toll road to begin with. | |
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over a competitors infrastructure for free is a problem. To be fair, it's not just Netflix and MS, as there are now an outrageous number of companies doing this. In the end, the only possible outcome will be to accelerate the cap/byte billing process.
You are right. All these companies are offloading the costs of delivering their products on to the ISPs. As video content continues to grow, the ISP costs will rise. In a way it is a smart strategy. They cut their costs and get to blame the ISPs for any cost increases to get movies in to the homes. So all the whining and complaints about costs are aimed at the ISPs and not them. Good content means that the ISPs are going to reap the benefit of increased revenues in the form of additional subscribers. It's a win-win situation for both ISPs and content providers alike. ISPs should focus on building/reinforcing their existing infrastructure to compete with other ISPs.
I'll ask you the same question as I asked JasonOD, "Please explain how Netflix and Microsoft are competitors to a company supplying a broadband connection?"... | |
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| Re: Netflix and MS running a business model said by Phil :said by GOLFnSUN :said by JasonOD :
over a competitors infrastructure for free is a problem. To be fair, it's not just Netflix and MS, as there are now an outrageous number of companies doing this. In the end, the only possible outcome will be to accelerate the cap/byte billing process.
You are right. All these companies are offloading the costs of delivering their products on to the ISPs. As video content continues to grow, the ISP costs will rise. In a way it is a smart strategy. They cut their costs and get to blame the ISPs for any cost increases to get movies in to the homes. So all the whining and complaints about costs are aimed at the ISPs and not them. Good content means that the ISPs are going to reap the benefit of increased revenues in the form of additional subscribers. It's a win-win situation for both ISPs and content providers alike. ISPs should focus on building/reinforcing their existing infrastructure to compete with other ISPs. I'll ask you the same question as I asked JasonOD, "Please explain how Netflix and Microsoft are competitors to a company supplying a broadband connection?"... They aren't but a great deal of broadband connection suppliers offer their own video content now. that's where they are competitors. | |
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| said by GOLFnSUN :said by JasonOD :
over a competitors infrastructure for free is a problem. To be fair, it's not just Netflix and MS, as there are now an outrageous number of companies doing this. In the end, the only possible outcome will be to accelerate the cap/byte billing process.
You are right. All these companies are offloading the costs of delivering their products on to the ISPs. As video content continues to grow, the ISP costs will rise. In a way it is a smart strategy. They cut their costs and get to blame the ISPs for any cost increases to get movies in to the homes. So all the whining and complaints about costs are aimed at the ISPs and not them. Lets examine this argument in general. The telco shills constantly complain about companies who are content providers getting a free ride on the networks of the internet service providers.
Here is the hypothesis:
Content providers are using the networks of other service providers for free to deliver content to consumers. This is the general perception of certain narrow thinking individuals.
Now lets try to prove this hypothesis:
First, lets define some very BASIC roles here:
Content provider: Provides access to content for individuals or entities to consume
Consumer: Individual or entity that requests content for consumption.
Service Provider: Provides the network connection to the internet to allow data to move from content providers to consumers.
In order for a content provider to provide content for consumption, they must first have a connection to the internet. So, the content provider goes to a service provider and negotiates a contract with them for service. The content provider PAYS the service provider for this access.
Now "Joe the consumer" comes along and decides he wants an internet connection in order to access the mountains of content available out there in the world. So what does he do? He calls a service provider and makes arrangements in order to gain access to the internet. He PAYS his service provider for access to the internet.
So now, "Joe the consumer" has PAID his service provider for access to the internet for content consumption and the content providers have PAID their service provider for access to the internet to provide content for consumption. Clearly you can see that the argument the content providers are getting free access to their competitors networks is bogus. "Joe the consumer" has already paid for that connection in order to gain access to that content and the content provider has already paid their service provider to deliver that content to the consumer.
It seems that the main issue with these "narrow thinking" individuals is that the service providers in many cases are also content providers. These "narrow thinkers" are trying to make the argument that organizations that are in the business of providing content are getting a free ride on their competitors network. So what do the "narrow thinkers" want the service providers who are also content providers to do? They want to:
1) Charge the competing content providers a fee to allow them access to consumers on their networks, OR
2) Allow the service providers to institute caps on the consumer to limit access to the internet, which will also indirectly limit their competition.
If we allowed the service providers to charge a fee to the content providers, what you will end up with is an internet with a set of artificial tariffs that will limit "trading" between entities, whether they be content providers or consumers. Also, what these "narrow thinkers" fail to realize is that their argument is a two-way street. Get your way and see what happens. What do you think will happen when your service provider/content provider needs to gain access to consumers on a competitors network? You guessed it, they'll have to pay that fee and guess who ends up paying it in the end? That would be you as a consumer. Maybe you narrow thinkers are OK with that but I can actually see the 800 pound gorilla riding a pink elephant around the room, maybe you guys should take off your telco prescribed glasses and get that tunnel vision corrected so you can see it too.
Now for 2, if we allowed service providers to institute caps, the risk is that it could lead to a commodities market where bytes are the commodity. Then that will give them the ability to influence how much content individuals can access. For those consumers with deeper pockets, it might not affect them so much, but those on a fixed budget, it will definitely limit what they can do.
The reality is that this is a much more complex issue than I've attempted to lay out here. The bottom line is that we as consumers lose regardless of whether service providers are allowed to charge a fee or service providers are allowed to institute caps to limit the impact of their competition on their product. What I can say for sure is that if these "narrow thinkers" keep getting their way, they are just inviting government intervention to ensure equality of competition in the marketplace because what they are proposing is pretty much allowing the service providers to engage in anti-competitive behavior. | |
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1 edit | Let me ask you something:
Do you pay for your internet connection or is it free?
I pay for mine.
Do you think these content providers get their connections for free?
I'm pretty sure they pay thousands for their connection(s).
So, please explain, how is it that these movies are suddenly getting here for free?
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| said by sousademiami :Why Now! Just sent the box in to be repaired! Look at the brightside...yours will more than likely come back to you with the new dashboard already installed and working and not doing an internet update with a good chance of bricking the console like the rest of us. | |
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| Re: The UI The thing that will concern me is the caps from service providers. Which may impact my choice of watching a movie in HD or not. To Stream 2-4GB vs 10-30GB, unless they use some really good compression I just dont see me doing the HD thing.
However, these are just numbers that I am coming with up my butt, so i need to really get a good bandwidth monitor and see what a 120 HD streaming movie pegs me at.
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1 edit | Re: The UI said by MystBlade :The thing that will concern me is the caps from service providers. Now you have touched on the real reason ISP's are putting in the caps. It is not P2P. That is a front they are putting up. P2P gained them customers. Now they will be losing customers to the Video download companies and that is what they are afraid of. | |
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| NEW Xbox HD lololol!! Yep i see a new hard drive coming and a bigger one. also wounder about external hd for the Xbox if it will be able to hold our downloaded games. I mean u need the game to play them but maybe someone might figure out a hack or something? Wounder how big a hd they have yet to release. | |
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2 edits | Bandwidth HOG? I am wondering what type of bandwidth it is going to take to stream/buffer these videos. I have a pretty fast internet connection (8mbps/1mbps, soon to be raised to 16mbps, 2mbps) and sometimes when I watch the XBOX Live Videos, they have to buffer for a bit, then while they play, they rebuffer. I am using an Ethernet connection to the router, but it sometimes happens; not all the time though.
And one question I had, XBOX said that you can invite your friends to watch the Netflix video with you from their XBOX. Now does that other users need to have a Netflix subscription too? | |
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| Re: Bandwidth HOG? said by bryank :I am wondering what type of bandwidth it is going to take to stream/buffer these videos. I have a pretty fast internet connection (8mbps/1mbps, soon to be raised to 16mbps, 2mbps) and sometimes when I watch the XBOX Live Videos, they have to buffer for a bit, then while they play, they rebuffer. I am using an Ethernet connection to the router, but it sometimes happens; not all the time though. Not sure about Netflix but the "HD" videos from XBL are about 6 GB so that break down to about 7.5 Mbps. On 16 Mbps connection it shouldn't be an issue on your end, but you'd have to wonder if Netflix could actually stream a movie to you at that speed without having to buffer for a LONG time. | |
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Reston, VA | Nice If It's All You Have I can get the same experience as watching a movie on my XBox 360 by dragging the Shop-Vac in from the garage and turning it on in the living room during the show.
It's freaking loud!
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| Re: Nice If It's All You Have said by jmn1207 :I can get the same experience as watching a movie on my XBox 360 by dragging the Shop-Vac in from the garage and turning it on in the living room during the show. It's freaking loud! No thanks. If the disc drive isn't moving it shouldn't be very loud. Mine isn't. Maybe I just got lucky. | |
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| Re: Nice If It's All You Have said by BF69 :said by jmn1207 :I can get the same experience as watching a movie on my XBox 360 by dragging the Shop-Vac in from the garage and turning it on in the living room during the show. It's freaking loud! No thanks. If the disc drive isn't moving it shouldn't be very loud. Mine isn't. Maybe I just got lucky. Mine is an old launch unit, refurbished at least once. It's always the loudest thing in the room unless I turn the volume way up, but even then, it can still be heard in quieter moments of a movie or game. Very distracting, to say the least. It's almost as loud as my Antec 900 case with the fans on low speed setting. | |
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1 edit | So what? Many of the latest blu-ray players either have or will soon have the same Netflix streaming capability. Its nothing more than a firmware update. Its not like some kind of xbox exclusive deal, as this thread seems to imply. | |
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| Re: So what? I just got the LG BD300 (Blu-Ray with Nexflix) and it's slick. I also have an XBox, but have no intention of paying for XBox Live Gold -- or whatever the hell it's called. I like the idea of using the XBox, but bought the DB300 because I didn't have to pay for yet something else.
I hope they'll be able to do HD in the future.
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| 1080p? I would be impressed by this, but by HD they likely mean 720p, which I can get by watching the premium channels I subscribe to. Why would I pay for an upgrade to get 720p Dolby Digital when I could use Netflix to obtain Blu-rays with 1080p and TrueHD or Master Audio? I can rent far more movies at a lower price using Netflix or Blockbuster on a monthly plan, too.
The real dealbreaker, however, is that they are still not addressing the infeasibility of delivering this content with the bandwidth caps by the cable companies. This service was feasible a few years ago, when the companies often didn't disconnect "high users," but not now.
They make it sound as if a "2Mbps connection" is the only criteria necessary for using the service, rather than acknowledging that these HD movies are likely 5GB or more in size. There's no way I'm willing to waste that much of my bandwidth allotment to download movies. | |
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3 edits | Re: 1080p? I fully agree. The primary reason I use Netflix is for the video and audio quality you obtain from an actual blu-ray disc. If I wanted degraded quality I would just download the movie from the net, since most titles are available via P2P or newsgroups as soon as they release on DVD/Blu-ray. | |
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| I think this is mainly geared towards customers like myself. I have an XBOX 360 on a high def TV with a 10 MB connection. I also subscribe to a Netflix plan that allows unlimited streaming, which I used to watch two seasons of Heroes on my PC a month or so back. It is a matter of convenience for me to watch something streaming at times vs. waiting on the disk to show up. I still wait for my movies to show up on Blu-ray but there are times when there is nothing on TV and I just feel like watching whatever odd ball movie is on the watch it now section of Netflix. I am curious to see how long it will take to buffer an HD movie up. I know currently there is no more than a 2 second buffer time on SD video on the PC with Netflix. And I still have to say Netflix is paying on their end for the bandwidth they are using and I am paying enough that I am not metered so there is no free ride on the content getting to me. | |
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4 edits | Re: 1080p? My PC is hooked to my HDTV, and I am sure alot of others have done the same. I really do not see any reason why I would every need to use a game box or a blu-ray player to stream a netflix movie. The PC does just fine for streaming netflix movies and it rivals my stand alone Denon blu-ray player with its .mkv/x264 file playback capabilty.
I would be interested in the streaming bitrate they intend to use. Anything near HD quality is going to require some horrendous bitrates. If everyone with an xbox or blu-ray player decides that streaming HD is the bomb, I think we all have a lot more to worry about than stupid ISP caps. Something more along the line of ISP collapsing due to congestion would be my guess. That assumes that netflix even has a big enough pipe to deliver the bandwidth demand that may come from this, I suspect waiting in a queue for hours will be quite a bit more of a delay factor than a few minutes of buffering. | |
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| Re: 1080p? Indeed. This type of thing could very well get the bandwidth caps rolling full steam. If Joe Average can easily DL HD movies in the XBOX360 interface then usage will skyrocket.
But then again this is exactly why I pay 120 bux a month for dig cable and the internet connection. If they start to tell me I can't do this then I want some REALLY cheap stripped down version of the internet and I'll just use it for light gaming. | |
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join:2008-06-07
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| Old interface is poor I should also point out that the current Xbox 360 interface is poor, and is a regression from the original Xbox. When I played Halo 2 and wanted to send messages to friends, I pressed the button and the screen popped up immediately. Now, when I want to do the same thing with Halo 3, you have to wait for 3 seconds after every single click.
Just to send feedback about an annoying or offensive user takes 30 seconds, which defeats the purpose of the system. I would be happy if Microsoft simply reverted to the old Xbox way of doing things, and I hope that this new interface is fast enough to actually be usable. | |
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| Re: Wow... said by dannysal :Fantastic news!! This pretty much catapults the X360 and XBL into a realm the PS3 and Wii cannot even fathom or will achieve anytime soon. PlayOn streams Netflix to PS3. Hate to burst your fanboi bubble. | |
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join:2008-04-26
Madera, CA
| What speed will I need? I get around 2.50mbps download on a regular basis, will that be what I need for this?
Upload not too sure but I think somewhere between 400 and 500kbps.
I do watch TV shows on Hulu with no problem and I can view Live streaming from Justin.tv or Ustream.tv with no problem if that helps. | |
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yolarry
join:2007-12-29
Creston, WV | Re: What speed will I need? if you can steam videos with no lag what so ever or higher then 128kbps. you should be able to watch SD. not sure about HD. | |
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| | Madtown
join:2008-04-26
Madera, CA
| Re: What speed will I need? said by yolarry :if you can steam videos with no lag what so ever or higher then 128kbps. you should be able to watch SD. not sure about HD. On Hulu I have it set to stream at 1.5mbps and I do just fine with that. | |
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| | | Mark F
join:2007-08-01
Fort Wayne, IN | Re: What speed will I need? SlingCatcher does Hulu, I think.
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