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story category NY Governor Issues Funding for Statewide Broadband
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(old news - 12:36PM Saturday Dec 08 2007)
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Following in the footsteps of California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger, New York Governor Eliot Spitzer has announced the importance that he places on developing statewide broadband. Comparing the importance of broadband to the twenty first century economy with that of the Erie Canal in its time, Spitzer said that his plan will create jobs and transform New York’s economy. State legislators have been arguing over how to create statewide broadband for some time now but haven’t reached any conclusions and now say that they welcome the governor’s support in the issue. The governor has awarded $5 million in grants to be distributed by a broadband council to research, design and implement the system.

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jammmin

join:2000-12-14
Upper Marlboro, MD

Its simple. Just issue Verizon a statewide franchise

That would spur Verizon to rapidly increase deployment in NYS.

Look what a statewide franchise did to NJ. Over 300 communities with FIOS after the first year of the franchise and hundreds more coming.
PDXPLT

join:2003-12-04
Banks, OR
·chambers cable
·Qwest.net

Re: Its simple. Just issue Verizon a statewide franchise

said by jammmin See Profile :

That would spur Verizon to rapidly increase deployment in NYS.
Nonsense. It would only do what it has done everywhere else: trigger VZ to deploy FIOS-TV to those "high value" subscribers that they would have deployed eventually to, anyway. It would do nothing to change Verizon's attitude of not deploying even basic DSL broadband to a significant portion of their subscribers. Those subscribers would continue to be without, while the so-called "high-value" subscribers would just be given another choice for TV, something they could already obtain from cable and/or satellite providers.

In other words, it would do nothing to address the core problem that this initiative is intended to address.

sansri88
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join:2005-12-17
Iselin, NJ
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·Comcast

Couple things:

1) I still do not have FiOS available in my township, and we have the 5th highest population in the state, and
2) NY should issue a statewide franchise LIKE NEW JERSEY. We had special requirements with the state franchise, with certain must-wire areas (I forgot the cities that were must-wire, but there's a list out there).

momcat1
No Relation To The Bobcat

join:2002-10-21
Wappingers Falls, NY
No, No, NO!!!
That would guarantee that our town will never get it. Frontier rules the telco side, and Cablevision the cable side. There's no such thing here as competition.

ipzedge2

@pacbell.net

a nation wide broadband

will be here next spring and will take 8 months to cover 100%
of the USA and then price will be under $20 a month,
they can spend $500 and fly to home office and save there self
the $5 million

TK Junk Mail
Golf season has returned - hurrah
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join:2002-03-03
Margate City, NJ
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Re: a nation wide broadband

said by ipzedge2 :

a nation wide broadband will be here next spring and will take 8 months to cover 100% of the USA and then price will be under $20 a month
And what broadband service is that??
PDXPLT

join:2003-12-04
Banks, OR
·chambers cable
·Qwest.net

Re: a nation wide broadband

said by TK Junk Mail See Profile :

said by ipzedge2 :

a nation wide broadband will be here next spring and will take 8 months to cover 100% of the USA and then price will be under $20 a month
And what broadband service is that??
NO, NO, NO! That's supposed to happen in only 3 weeks! Yippie!!!

President Bush promised in 2004 that, by the end of 2007, affordable broadband will be available to all Americans. And we all know that the Conventional Wisdom on this site are that Dems are bad, but Repubs are good, are always right, and keep their promises.

ipzedge2

@pacbell.net

the company is a privately held corporation for the last 6 year it has been working on a new wireless technology
and because over the past years there has been very bad people targeting the inventor and programmes with actions you would think where coming from a Tom Clancy story.
because of this kind of problems the company has been very careful what and when and
to who they give the information to i was one of a few hundred people that was fortunate to be able to hear and speak to the inventor before the inventor was order to halt
his communications with the group by the 7 investors. what i can say is the Chip is working and it's live,
the network is planned to roll out spring or 2008 and the Services will not interfere with
any television,radio,satellite.phone,wireless microphone or white space signals that are
already in use today. And with 7 investors and $13-billion dollar allocated for existing tower acquisition, and given that it only takes an average of 12-days to build a 350-foot tower to service a 30-mile radius on relatively flat terrain, and about 16 miles in mountain terrain of North American-wide service (blanketed coverage) being completed within one (1) year of launch is a very real projection. there is talk about making it happen with in 8 months.

There is another service that will be offer when the network
is up and running and it is a hardware that is given out for
free to any merchant on or off line that will enable a customer to shop and the Merchant will not have to pay any Merchant fees,and the Merchant will be guaranteed payment
buy the network no back charges.

momcat1
No Relation To The Bobcat

join:2002-10-21
Wappingers Falls, NY
·Optimum Online

Oh, Please! We're still waiting for the choice of provider (telco and cable) that the Feds supposedly mandated in 1994. Hasn't happened yet, and from what I understand isn't about to, ever. I'll believe it as soon as I see it, not a minute sooner.

Please don't let Verizon have anything to with a NY broadband. Cause in our town, we won't get that either! Frontier (or its successor) rules the poles. Verizon cannot get in.

TK Junk Mail
Golf season has returned - hurrah
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join:2002-03-03
Margate City, NJ
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Spitzer and legislature may be at odds

Spitzer:
A state Council for Universal Broadband will distribute US$5 million in grants to research, design and provide broadband Internet that Spitzer said will lead to jobs and economic development. The plan is aimed at providing a tool to help the long stagnant economy in upstate counties.
Legislator:
"We welcome the governor's involvement," said Assemblyman Richard Brodsky, a Westchester Democrat who has sought accessible broadband service for years. "The key here is affordability in low-income neighborhoods that are already wired," Brodsky said. "The Assembly has a plan to do that, to deal with that problem. We'd love to sit down and negotiate with the governor, but I don't see anything in the governor's proposal about a legislative role."
Spitzer wants to spread broadband more widely. And Brodsky wants another WELFARE subsidy program for the poor in areas that already have broadband. Bend over taxpayers - here it comes again.

The news item doesn't say where Spitzer will get his $5 million or if he needs the legislature to appropriate money or whether he will get it from some funds he has stashed away in some other budget area.
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older dog
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join:2005-06-09
Norwich, NY

Re: Spitzer and legislature may be at odds

A good share of the more rural areas of N.Y. are not serviced by Verizon, and those telcos are far ahead of Verizon at providing universal broadband, but at a significantly higher price with lower speeds.

pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD
·Comcast

Spitzer Trying to be Relevant

After getting slapped down for sicking the state police on political opponents, trying to issue driver's licenses to illegals, and failing in a brazen attempt to collect sales tax on Internet purchases on Amazon.com, Spitzer goes back to the tried and true playbook... create another government entitlement.
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patcat88

join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY

bullshit

So when is Time Warner extending the line (quoted $20K) or Verizon building a RT to my parent's house so they can get off 19.2k dialup?

Until that is answered, any Broadband plan is pure BS. Most likely this is just funding to hire "consultants" (governor's friends) to do studies on whether there is a problem, or if they are really adventurous, how to fix the problem. But ultimately we know, that unless something like Utopia comes out, the govt CAN NOT force any broadband company to offer service anywhere, so all these proposals are pure bullshit.
dynodb
Premium,VIP
join:2004-04-21
Minneapolis, MN

ROFLMAO

LOL @ $5 million.

Reminds me of the scene in the Austin Powers movie where Dr. Evil demanded $1 million dollars, not knowing that it was far too low a sum to be demanding.
DemonChicken

join:2006-10-15
Boon, MI

Damnit michigan!

To bad our economies to crappy to afford broadband.

Hell we don't even have jobs!
garmst

join:2000-09-17
New York, NY

$5mil - e nough to give a crony a nice contract!

$5 million is not real money to fund a state broadband "initiative". or "plan".

The system will not appear. The state will not fund it as they like to fund welfare programs before anything else.

If Spitzer wants to help New York State business and jobs, he would dramatically cut business and personal TAXES and drop the anti-business attitude in New York State. Also drop the generous welfare system that encourages people NOT to work.

NYS property taxes are chasing people out of the state. Even free Internet wouldn't stop the run to the state door for the South.

chlen
Ethically Challenged
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join:2001-01-16
Albany, NY
·RoadRunner Cable

Re: $5mil - e nough to give a crony a nice contract!

said by garmst See Profile :

$5 million is not real money to fund a state broadband "initiative". or "plan".

The system will not appear. The state will not fund it as they like to fund welfare programs before anything else.

If Spitzer wants to help New York State business and jobs, he would dramatically cut business and personal TAXES and drop the anti-business attitude in New York State. Also drop the generous welfare system that encourages people NOT to work.

NYS property taxes are chasing people out of the state. Even free Internet wouldn't stop the run to the state door for the South.
lets just say I work very closely to this...

The money is for the formation of a council to look at putting broadband capability ( if it is even possible ) in agriculture dependent counties. Here is some of the info I get.

»agmkt.state.ny.us/AD/release.asp···eID=1663

This is the official press release.
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tmc8080

join:2004-04-24
Floral Park, NY

more money to telco?

Umm... telcos have been getting the lions share of the money lately... Why not have the 5 million go to cable companies as a down-payment for docsis 3.0 (under certain conditions/strings)? Everyone's up in arms about telephone companies getting money from government. When was the last time you've heard much money going to a cable company? Most cable companies in NY already have good infrastructure. If the money is supposed to go to job creation and economy development, wouldn't a cable company get more miles per dollar than a telco?

- Just a thought.

Smith6612

@verizon.net

My area of NY already has broadband everywhere.

In Western New York (including a lot of farmland in Medina), Frontier, Verizon and Time Warner (along with Comcast in a few bits) already have broadband coverage. The slowest Verizon goes in the area is 768k/128k, Time Warner's Roadrunner, 350k/350k, Comcast (not sure,, probably same as Roadrunner), and Frontier, 3M/380k. Verizon is really rolling out their fiber service, heck, I've seen it in a small town in the Medina area, which is really all farmland. I'm not sure about Frontier yet, as they just started Fiber service a few months ago.

Also in WNY, where there's no cable broadband, the Telcos already have DSL/fiber there, same goes with cable. If there's no DSL/horrible DSL service/fiber, there's cable. I'm not sure about anything past Rochester broadband wise.
darbacour

join:2005-04-13
Los Angeles, CA
·RoadRunner Cable
·AT&T DSL Service

Thank GOD for the Govenator

He cracked down and axed DLs for illegals, helping CA to DENY services to 'Those That Don't Belong Here'.

NOW he is channeling the money that would have been spent on illegals into services for those of us that DO belong here.

NICE!

Thank you for taking care of Americans 1st.
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