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| Atta boy, Karl "Besides, I always say that if you've got nothing to hide, you've got no reason to fear the government shock troops in their black kevlar body suits, who are currently downstairs embedding an HSDPA-supported monitoring chip in junior's skull."
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I've never respected anyone who uses lol or dude, it shows your lack of intelligence. It's not sarcasm or humour, I can tell that karl is showing his true beleifs. | |
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| Re: Atta boy, Karl said by cafields :I've never respected anyone who uses lol or dude, it shows your lack of intelligence. It's not sarcasm or humour, I can tell that karl is showing his true beleifs. As opposed to say, not capitalizing a proper noun and misspelling words? | |
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| said by cafields :I've never respected anyone who uses lol or dude, it shows your lack of intelligence. It's not sarcasm or humour, I can tell that karl is showing his true beleifs. I've never respected anyone who can't spell and use punctuation, it shows their lack of intelligence.
*Note: Sarcasm only. I really don't say stuff like that, I just wanted to point out the sheer hypocrisy of someone who would insult the intelligence of someone based on a post using some common online slang when they can't even spell or word their own post properly...
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| Re: Atta boy, Karl said by KrK :said by cafields :I've never respected anyone who uses lol or dude, it shows your lack of intelligence. It's not sarcasm or humour, I can tell that karl is showing his true beleifs. I've never respected anyone who can't spell and use punctuation, it shows their lack of intelligence. *Note: Sarcasm only. I really don't say stuff like that, I just wanted to point out the sheer hypocrisy of someone who would insult the intelligence of someone based on a post using some common online slang when they can't even spell or word their own post properly... I'm with you. I never point out stuff like that as English may not be the posters first language, but in this case it was called for. | |
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@verizon.net | Re: Atta boy, Karl BELIEF to be spelled B-E-L-I-E-F not beleif. MattE
Try to practice what you preach before you start at the pulpit. | |
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| I saw it. However, it doesn't qualify as sarcasm when it comes from such a bitter partisan as Karl. He is supposed to be reporting news on the front page but can't help himself to editorialize. Karl is free to do that and I am free to criticize him for it. The swift cleaver of censorship will make everything better...deleted by moderator. -- Save water...drink beer! | |
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join:2005-05-26 Annapolis, MD | Re: Atta boy, Karl Yeah...ok Pay no mind to the men with the white jacket. They are your friends. They are bringing you to the farm where life is wonderful all the time.  | |
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join:2006-04-14 Carlsbad, NM | Re: Atta boy, Karl Haha like that 1 episode of the Simpsons where Homer falls in line/love with "The Leader". xD | |
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Way to blow your own. | |
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| Re: Quite a leap So making fun of someone for wanting to keep their private info private is ok then? These days with identity theft, corporate spamming and selling lists to 3rd parties being a real concern I don't see where it is a joke to not have people other then those you have given permission to have your info to have it. | |
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join:2005-05-26 Annapolis, MD | Re: Quite a leap Yeah calling her Ms Suspicious and having the look of paranoia on her face has nothing to do with it. (smirk)
That alone makes fun of anyone who is security conscious. | |
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AT&T isn't making fun of anyone, especially those they're trying to get to sign up for Online Bill Pay service. | |
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join:2001-01-26 Valencia, CA | Re: Quite a leap Sure... I use online bill pay, just not theirs. Its much nicer to use a bank bill pay than multiple 3rd party systems that tie into my bank account. -- Canada = Hollywood North | |
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| Re: Quite a leap said by en102 :Sure... I use online bill pay, just not theirs. Its much nicer to use a bank bill pay than multiple 3rd party systems that tie into my bank account. I actually went the other way... I find it easier to give each of my providers my account number and authorize auto withdrawals. This gives several advantages:
- the bill is always paid on time, and if it's not, it's their fault, not my bank's
- the bill is always paid on exactly the due date, but I get the float until it actually hits my account
- it's one less party to worry about in the transaction. I don't have to deal with a billpayer service in addition to my bank and the supplier.
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| Re: Quite a leap said by Skeedatl :Problem is, if they (the telco or whoever) screws up your billing, they got your money and you have to fight to get it back. With banking bill pay you hold the money over their heads and pay what you think is the correct amount. I've never had a problem having a company issue credits when they had a billing error and collected too much money. You just have to call and point out the error. Usually they fall over backwards to satisfy me in cases like this, is my experience. Maybe it's because I don't act like a jackass when I call them, but just state my problem in terms that they can understand and solve. | |
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| Re: Quite a leap said by Skeedatl :In my case, Time Warner Cable double billed me and it took me 4 months to get my money back. I also had my mortgage holder take 2 payments the same day and what a nightmare that was. Since then I don't autopay anything or have online billing with anyone but my bank. I'd probably feel the same way as you if anything like that happened to me. Like I said, I've never had a problem getting immediate credits.
Did you consider going to (or at least filing with) small claims court? That's what I'd do if I didn't get satisfaction. Four months is ridiculous. | |
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Freedom is Slavery!
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| Re: 1984 a few days late? Here's a few more the elite have been more successful at getting people to believe.
Spying is Security!
Fear is Guilt!
Control is Safety!
Indoctrination is Education!
Drugs are Health!
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| Re: Coming right out of the woodwork All of it is untrue. If it was true you wouldn't have been able to reply, you would have been silenced already and detained without a lawyer
You can't even shake your fist and stamp your feet about Karl Rove anymore. In case you haven't heard from "the various media channels" Karl Rove is no longer an employee of the executive branch. -- Save water...drink beer! | |
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join:2008-01-29 Eustis, FL | Re: Americans are behaving like Sheep on the way to slaughter! I am sorry it sounds like I was making a pitch for the Democrats but I had as much disdain for the deceitful methods used by the Johnson Administration, while LBJ was in office. | |
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join:2003-10-15 Toledo, OH | Re: ATT pfff True but ATT has their hands on it. Which means everything on it will be sent back to the Feds. Which means its a federally locked phone as well.
You don't see T-Mobile doing the tunnels. | |
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| Karl, of course, misses the mark in several ways (1) This ad is not about wiretapping, much less making fun of the privacy conscious. It's about addressing consumers' concerns about online billing and payments. This particular character is addressing the consumer who is suspicious that things entered on the Internet will be stolen or used in ways she doesn't want. It's trying to reassure her that AT&T will keep her data safe and private.
(2) The issue of AT&T and its relationship with the US government with respect to national security really does not have traction out there in the real world. It's way down in the weeds on the list of things the voting public worries about. To think that this ad is about that issue, or that anyone outside this particular segment of the blogosphere here would make that link, is what the psychologists call "projection". In the real world, consumers are worried about identity theft, losing their money, or getting put on marketing lists for spam, phone calls, and letters. That is what AT&T is addressing with these ads.
(3) Karl keeps pounding on his point that "AT&T funnels all of YOUR phone and Internet data DIRECTLY to the NSA with NO WARRANT OR OVERSIGHT", like a big, stupid lumberjack banging away at a tree. Overlooked is the fact that NO ONE REALLY KNOWS exactly what's going on, but reason would suggest that it is nothing close to what Karl "alleges". This is simple demagoguery. | |
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| AT&T was not mocking anyone. That ad -- for online billing, for Heaven's sake! -- was designed to reassure people that it was safe and secure to receive your bill online. It was likely crafted by an ad agency who never thought for a second that anyone would try to conflate it with illegal wiretapping by the Bush Administration. | |
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| Re: AT&T was not mocking anyone. Karl and Justin have a radical left wing agenda. They purport to provide industry news on the front page of DSLR. All they are doing is editorializing to their own ends when ever they get the chance. They are free to do this. I highly doubt either one is a credentialed journalist or a student of journalism. They are hacks who control the content of a web site to their liking. -- Save water...drink beer! | |
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join:2007-01-12 Phoenix, AZ | Re: AT&T was not mocking anyone. Just like reputable sources like the National Review and Fox News? | |
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| demographics ftw Oh please, it has nothing to do with security agencies wanting to know everything you're doing...
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