  dadkins Can you do Blu? Premium,MVM join:2003-09-26 Hercules, CA | Fail! This has EPIC written all over it!

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| Two interesting side effects 1) People sitting on the fence about pirating now have a green light to pirate until they get a notice in the mail.
2) Are you "banned for life"? Sure, there's getting kicked off of "your ISP" but is the sentence a life sentence? Can you resubscribe at a later time? Are you put on an Orwellian blacklist and banned from all broadband everywhere? Does everyone in your household get denied broadband forever?
That would be sooooo cool. | |
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| Re: Two interesting side effects said by nothing00 :1) People sitting on the fence about pirating now have a green light to pirate until they get a notice in the mail. 2) Are you "banned for life"? Sure, there's getting kicked off of "your ISP" but is the sentence a life sentence? Can you resubscribe at a later time? Are you put on an Orwellian blacklist and banned from all broadband everywhere? Does everyone in your household get denied broadband forever? That would be sooooo cool. that would pretty much be impossible since the ISP has no way to know the SSNs of other people in the house. so if the kid moves out it would be impossible for him to be blacklisted since his SSN was never on the services.
of course the fact everything in life is locked to SSNs is a whole different issue that needs to be resolved well before we worry about non economy effecting things like The Pirate Bay. -- [65 Arcanist]Filan(High Elf) Zone: Broadband Reports | |
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| Epic? Sure. But I don't think it'll fail.
The RIAA will eventually get enough data to convince the ISP beancounters that they're going to save more money than acting on these requests will cost*. There's a finite list of ISPs, and an even smaller list of good ones; this system doesn't have to be perfect to scare people away from pirating materials.
*think of all the Comcast subscribers that hit near their cap; that's 250GB of backhaul traffic you save on every time you can a $50 customer | |
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1 edit | said by ViRGEdx :*think of all the Comcast subscribers that hit near their cap; that's 250GB of backhaul traffic you save on every time you can a $50 customer Why, because people won't listen to music or watch video if they have to get it legally?
The smart ISPs know better -- fighting P2P file-sharing is the wrong battle, because this is simply consumer demand being fueled by the want of multimedia to fill big-screens and iPods.
Plus the ISPs are also video-delivery companies that fight their own licensing battles -- the excesses of copyright mean they don't get anything for free unless its 70 years old. They know first hand how ridiculous that is, and how impossible it is to bargain with monopolistic power.
What good is the 500-channel system if there's nothing interesting on? How relevant is programming from before the U.S. truly was "the Great 48"? So why offer the 500-channel system if nobody can afford to subscribe? ISPs aren't in a hurry to embrace studio power -- they want exclusive rights ended sooner just as much as we do. (Isn't it true that if somehow the studios could eliminate simple file-sharing, it would just strengthen the studio's own monopoly power and Video providers would pay even more abusive rates for programming content?)
But, either way, you can't fight demand -- nobody can fight demand. One might as well try to sweep the water back into the ocean with a pushbroom -- the day will be busy, but nothing will actually be accomplished. -- Robb Topolski -= funchords.com =- Hillsboro, Oregon -- KJ7RL What you do at Christmas does not matter so much; What counts are the Christmas things you do all year through. | |
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| but it also depends on ISPs running a database, someone gets dropped by comcast do you honestly think ATT/Verizon will turn down a high use customer that will buy their most expensive speed tiers. -- [65 Arcanist]Filan(High Elf) Zone: Broadband Reports | |
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| said by dadkins :This has EPIC written all over it! +1
I'm so tired of this nonsense. They (the four letter acronym people) seem to have all the answers but they can't figure out a way to deliver truly quality content when we want it and how we want it, at a fair price of course. | |
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1 edit | Re: Fail! Don't worry peeps, they'll get what's coming to them when the economy goes belly up next year and people stop giving them money all together. Evil always knows how to shoot itself in the foot feet.  -- Obey, Consume, Reproduce, $This is your god$ They Live! | |
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| said by dadkins :This has EPIC written all over it! Pass the popcorn, this will be better than a crappy movie that the MPAA support! 
You know who this will 'scare'? 2 people. And those are the people who are using torrents non stop to download 0 day releases. | |
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| Re: Fail! said by k1ll3rdr4g0n :said by dadkins :This has EPIC written all over it! Pass the popcorn, this will be better than a crappy movie that the MPAA support!  You know who this will 'scare'? 2 people. And those are the people who are using torrents non stop to download 0 day releases. and yet the studio itself is the #1 leak source of non cam jobs for 0day DVD quality downloads. -- [65 Arcanist]Filan(High Elf) Zone: Broadband Reports | |
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1 edit | Leave it to the Shylocks at the RIAA and MPAA to convince ISPs that doing their bidding is not only beneficial to them, they should shoulder the costs of doing such, and should ultimately send them money to boot.
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Here, we see who's really in charge... | |
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| You guys are worrying about three strikes on your internet connection, when you now have "one strike" on being targeted as an "internal threat" by someone with access to "Homeland Security", that does not like you for any reason.
Welcome to the American Gestapo.
»www.nowpublic.com/world/domestic···ic-shame | |
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| Accusation = Guilt? I want to know how any company can justify canceling service based on accusations. I demand proof and a finding of guilt by a court of law. Anything less is just hot air and they had better not touch my account. A couple of high profile lawsuits vs. ISPs should fix this if it ever comes to fruition.
BTW, I haven't DL'ed anything since Napster's heyday because I simply don't like any of today's artists. I leave my Sirius set to the 80s channel and I couldn't be happier. I wait until Hollywood's horrible remakes make it to TV if I want to see them -- there's no hurry to see anything they've turned out lately. -- John M - Cranky network guy | |
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join:2005-09-28 00000 | Re: Accusation = Guilt? It's not that hard to see if the accused is really doing what they are accused of. The question is who is going to pay for checking to see if the accusation is legit? | |
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| Shouldn't that be "Accusation == Guilt?" or "Accusation != Guilt."?
Under the DMCA, Service providers need to have an AUP which provides for termination of service to any subscriber who has been FOUND to be a repeat offender. As a service provider, I take that to mean that:
A) The subscriber has been found guilty of copyright infringement by a court of law on more then one occasion.
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B) We have determined on more then one occasion that the subscriber in question has in fact been distributing the IP of others, outside of fair use, without the permission of the copyright holder.
On receipt of a proper DCMA notice we do the following.
1) Determine if the IP address in question is an IP assigned to one of our systems. A) This has never been the case.
2) Check to make sure the notice is digitally signed and in fact comes from an entity that has permission to issue DCMA notices for the work in question.
3) Determine if the IP in question is in a block which is reserved for customer use. A) This is almost always the case.
4) Determine if the IP in question was in use at the time of the alleged infringement. A) You would be amazed at the frequency of DCMA notices we get for IP addresses that were not in use at the time of claimed infringement. It appears to me that notices are frequently generated because the IP address is listed on a tracker. B) If the IP in question was not in use at the time stated, we stop any internal investigation as it is just a waste of our time. The second time that we get such a notice from an entity, we automatically fall back to case B for all notices from the same entity.
5) If the IP address in question was in use, we check the given md5 and make sure it matches the named work.
6) We check traffic logs for the subscriber in question to see if it would have been possible for them to be transferring copies of the work in question. We also look at the current number of connections, type of connections etc
7) If WE believe that the customer in fact was distributing the work in question, we send them an email with a copy of the allegation and ask that, in the case that they are in fact distributing the work in question, they stop doing so and refrain from doing so in the future. We also point them to our AUP.
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| Re: Accusation = Guilt? You would be amazed at the frequency of DCMA notices we get for IP addresses that were not in use at the time of claimed infringement. It appears to me that notices are frequently generated because the IP address is listed on a tracker. And certain eyepatch-and-Jolly-Roger trackers are known to intentionally add bogus IP addresses to their list. | |
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Also, we need to eliminate our civil liberties in order to protect our civil liberties. LOL | |
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-used to acknowledge a hit in fencing or the success or appropriateness of an argument, an accusation, or a witty point | |
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Maybe some day the average Joe will wake up | |
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join:2008-03-28 | So... When it costs only $5-$10 per month (via this extortion "licensing" fee) to download all of the movies you might want to see, then who'd need to bother with premium movie channels or pay-per-view? | |
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join:2001-12-11 Ypsilanti, MI
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| Not happening This is not going to happen, mainly because it screws up the ISP business model with no payback for them. If the customer reaches the "third strike" who loses the revenue - the MPAAS or the ISP? Is the MPAA going to pay the cost of running this monitoring system? Is the MPAA going to get the ISP to impose a license fee and then not share it? Can triple play companies still charge hefty PPV fees when the users can just download the content legally?
Just too many downsides for the ISP industry without any discernable upside. It is all about distribution; the ISP has it and the MPAA does not. It sucks to be them. | |
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| Law. Court. Judges. Law. Court. Judges. A basis of our modern society.... Well, not anymore. Fascism rules the roost. You are convicted on the spot.
It's the roaring 20's again and the Mafia is getting going. Has no one in Government learned from history? Other than kickbacks and bribes.
An ISP user tax is flawed in that it automatically accuses all users of filesharing violations(like police roadblocks accuse every driver of drinking alcohol). If one user out of ten thousand has broken a law, then that user must be brought to court to face punishment(provided that the evidence was gathered in a 'legal' manner). And in these cases, the Judge rules about no Internet use for a set time and then jail time if the 'crime' is severe enough.. | |
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| Re: Law. Court. Judges. said by zalternate :Law. Court. Judges. A basis of our modern society.... Well, not anymore. Fascism rules the roost. You are convicted on the spot. It's the roaring 20's again and the Mafia is getting going. Has no one in Government learned from history? Other than kickbacks and bribes. An ISP user tax is flawed in that it automatically accuses all users of filesharing violations(like police roadblocks accuse every driver of drinking alcohol). If one user out of ten thousand has broken a law, then that user must be brought to court to face punishment(provided that the evidence was gathered in a 'legal' manner). And in these cases, the Judge rules about no Internet use for a set time and then jail time if the 'crime' is severe enough.. Especially if its not the government investigating and doling out the punishment. If its corporations doing the monitoring, and sending the DMCA notices, and the ISP's comply. It doesn't seem right. If the government did surveillance it would probably be privacy violations.
I still think everything is going to go encrypted if they put through stuff like this, making the internet a lot more anonymous. | |
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| What does the RIAA/MPAA expect to gain? Do they think if they stop pirating, there is going to be big increase in album sales? People's budgets are magically going to increase to cover spending on cd's and what not?
Not ever album/movie downloaded is a lost sale. I bet a giant percentage wouldn't of bought it otherwise.
The RIAA/MPAA seems to put all this effort in, instead of focusing on great product.
Look at The Dark Knight. The put out a great movie, it smashed box office records, and it smashed bluray/dvd records.
Stop focusing your efforts on frying people that wouldn't pay for your stuff, and focus on putting out good product. | |
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join:2008-07-24 Hammond, IN | Piracy Tax Ok, let's all establish a traffic violation tax, for ALL DRIVERS THEN.
We all know everyone is eventually going to break some sort of traffic violation, EVEN IF YOU DON'T.
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join:2005-03-19 Homer Glen, IL
| Lets think logically Oh wait, sorry, we have lost that ability.
Here are a few points that can easily get around this "system": + Multiple people in the house; if one person gets booted then they just resubscribe in another person's name. And keep going around because I'm sure there will be a "cool off" period and not a permanent ban. The ISPs would never go for a permanent ban because that is just revenue that could be made/would be lost. + What about business accounts? I really doubt ISPs (include Comcast) want to kick a business just because of a few "mistakes". Studies show that the profit isn't from residential connections but from businesses (I could find one, but if you just think about it, who would spend more money a home owner or a business owner?). So, to solve this problem, just buy a business line .
Again shouldn't the **AA be trying to figure out how to maximize sales and not trying to squeeze every dollar they can illegally? This isn't the dial-up era, CDs are dead. Long live the MP3! Ok I'll shutup now .
P.S. Is it just me or does DSLR always post news on the bad stuff? (Or mostly) | |
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| Re: Lets think logically And how are they going to distinguish between what is really infringing content and what is not, and try to prevent false positives?
Given the track record of the MAFIAA and their anti-piracy company enforcers, there could be a whole lot of innocent customers disconnected who were falsely accused of infringement. -- "The trouble with computers, of course, is that they are very sophisticated idiots." - Doctor Who (from Robot)
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| ... The Graduated Response seems to have all the ingredients to succeed.
THE ISP LIKES IT BECAUSE: 1. It discourages heavy file sharing usage. 2. It discourages usage outside their own PPV system. 3. Few, if any, would ignore the letters to the point of losing their service if any other provider they could go to would produce the same result.
Ars Technica wrote: »arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20···too.html
"Adopting graduated response and letting the industry do all the identification should also avoid some of the regulatory problems that could crop up if ISPs instead started scanning and blocking content in realtime."
Well if they are not scanning then they are not identifying, are they? They are assuming, aren't they? Make enough assumptions against enough people and you can get yourself in some trouble. The wording of the warning letter and TOS are going to need to be crafted well.  | |
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| Re: ... I received a notice from WOW (Wide Open West) about 3 months ago.
see screenshot
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I called the number, and it always goes to a voice recorder, saying that it's a "special" department that requires "special trained staff" to deal with it, which they called me a week later at a random time, while I was at work.
They said that they have the evidence, and the evidence was ( Apparently ) that I downloaded "Pineapple Express" on bit torrent.
Now, I know some in this forum have probably already pre-judged me as "Guilty"
But, I swear I NEVER even tried to download that particular movie. I hardly ever even use bit torrent.
The representative said that the evidence does not lie. and since I am the only one in the house that knows how to use bit torrent, I'm positive it was not someone else.
The representative then suggested that I encrypt my wi-fi router to "prevent it from happening again".
I then of course explained to him that NOTHING that is wireless is secure, and that it can all be cracked.
He did not have anything else new or useful to say after that.
I continue to use bit torrent to this day, and have not received another notice. | |
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1 edit | Re: ... The WOW notice reads: "We have been notified.." Presumably they are being notified by the MPAA. I gather then that the Ars Technica article refers to the MPAA when it refers to the "industry."
Quote: "Adopting graduated response and letting the industry do all the identification should also avoid some of the regulatory problems that could crop up if ISPs instead started scanning and blocking content in realtime."
Makes sense now. The ISP, having reason to believe their TOS are being violated, is at least legally warranted in sending the notice. If the accusation turns out to be false it is the MPAA that is at cause. Still, I wonder if the ISP would be under some legal responsibility to confirm the accusation before it took action. | |
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join:2008-07-24 Hammond, IN | Re: ... Sorry, forgot to mention that WOW got the notice from BayTSP. | |
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join:2006-02-02 Brooklyn, NY | Your freedom not to be a Pirate And for legitimate users invasion of Privacy? "Hooray!" Will someone stand up to those people to protect them?
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join:2006-11-11 Nancy, KY
| Flawed Policies One has to ask several questions about these issues;
Why the private entities do not use current laws to prevent suspected illegal activities?
When did the private entities become Judge, Jury, and Executioner?
What about my "Pursuit of Happiness"?
I consider affordable internet access just as important as electricity, communications, etc.., for survival in today's, and probably the future's, society. | |
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| Taxes If all of these RICO type organizations get their way and all is said and done you may very well have about $45 in "piracy" taxes added to your bill:
$15 RIAA tax $15 MPAA tax $15 BSA tax (Business Software Alliance, not Boy Scouts!)
Of course one could then add:
$10 ISP enforcement fee $10 excessive bandwidth fee
and a myriad of other fees and taxes to prop up failing business models. -- I support the right to keep and arm bears. | |
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| Rebellion I think the ISPs need to be careful here. The internet community has shown many times they are willing to push back. It wouldn't surprise me to see some enterprising person writes a virus/trojan that included a BT client that automatically downloaded MPAA/RIAA material in the background, deleted it a few days later, and started the process over. This would generate thousands (hundreds of thousands?) of false-positives and basically cripple the ISP business model in the US if they really were prepared to kick off 10% of their users in a single month for the MPAA/RIAA. I know some people like that... they are fanatical and frankly dangerous people. I hope the MPAA/RIAA isn't trying to start a war with them because it will get very ugly. It might be a classic case of the cure being worse than the disease. | |
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| Re: Rebellion Your comment about the bittorrent virus gave me a thought: Why couldn't malware writers come up with a botnet that did nothing but torrent movies, then sell access to those who want to avoid getting any strikes? If something like this three strikes thing actually comes into force, I can foresee a huge market for services that would bypass any monitoring. I really think that implementing draconian penalties will only drive copyright infringers underground and may even make the situation worse for the copyright holders. | |
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| Re: Rebellion said by Jigglyware :If something like this three strikes thing actually comes into force, I can foresee a huge market for services that would bypass any monitoring. I really think that implementing draconian penalties will only drive copyright infringers underground and may even make the situation worse for the copyright holders. That's happening now and it's reason number 456 that ISPs shouldn't turn against their users.
If the ISPs keep the users' trust, then users are more apt to voluntarily use technologies that cooperate with the ISP and can keep some or most of the traffic on-net (P4P, caching, P2P -- all of which do tend to keep some of the traffic on the ISP's own network).
But if the users don't trust the ISP, then they will use these anonymizing services and then 100% of the data incoming and outgoing goes out of the ISP's part of the network through a higher-cost 3rd-party transit provider. -- Robb Topolski -= funchords.com =- Hillsboro, Oregon -- KJ7RL What you do at Christmas does not matter so much; What counts are the Christmas things you do all year through. | |
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1 edit | Secret meetings with **AAs and ISPs Any other industry who had secret meetings to arrange a whole industry's marketing like RIAA/MPAA is doing would be hauled into court for price fixing and conspiracy to commit price fixing. RIAA/MPAA is not a government agency that can levy a TAX on consumers and the idea IS price fixing. Where is the consumer protection? | |
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| What about people in Asia So with all this stuff the RIAA and MPAA is doing how does it effect someone like me who is moving to Asia. Does this mean that the MPAA and RIAA cant touch me where I am going? Or do they have there own setup. I am just wondering before I go to see if I can download anything I want | |
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join:2007-06-19 Levittown, NY
2 edits | MPAA somewhat unfair, caps will kill pirating anyway.. My feelings on this ...
First the RIAA plan.. this has unfair, unjust written all over it. I don't want to pay more cause someone else wants to break the law. Thats like taking 10 people in the courtroom and saying, this guy committed murder, but instead of giving him a life sentince will just split it across 10 people, and everyone including the murderer will get 10 years. -- unfair, will be argued down, I would hope.
The MPAA plan.. while the plan itself sounds fair, there is no way it will not end up punishing innocent people somewhere even if it is implemented correctly. What about programming that requires a license but it didnt download properly, or here's an example.. someone records a legally purchased .wmv, their comp crashes, they didn't know to burn the license to their disc along with the movie they -legally- purchased, they play it, it is found in violation, now they have a dimerit as being a pirate. Say what you want but once this plan is implemented, complaint will likely fall on deaf ears, I have complained constantly that .wma's purchased legally were supposed to play in standalone players but I still read of constant complaints similar to mine in which the player just returns a message that it cant play it cause its protected. I'm sure there are still plenty of players that don't read .wma licensing to determine if it is ok to play and that was the way it was supposed to work, it was supposed to be seamless. I shouldn't have to be a .wma expert to know how to handle them.
Other issues, once this is allowed, whats next, pictures, sounds, .pdf files, games, what about setups from angry movie hackers who give people a new virus (their pirated material).. this plan is great but, to me, it has mess written all over it.
Finally, who's really getting punished, the pirater or the ISP. It is likely you just handed a customer of the ISP right over to their competitor, and likely, in hatred, they will never come back to that ISP just to prove a point. I know someone who was wrongfully penalize for violating then AOL's TOS, unless there was no choice, she would never use them as her ISP again.
Likely, capping will discourage this anyway; i would imagine even pirates are not going to want to waste their range of enjoyable time online, then pay premium to pirate material. I feel even this is a better plan; 5% of capped monies goes to the MPAA & 5% to the RIAA since most material that exceeds the cap are usually media related. | |
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| Re: MPAA somewhat unfair, caps will kill pirating anyway.. I am curious how the ISP becoming cop will work with the Usenet.
Wont the ??AA have to get the records from the Usenent provider who is using SSL and who may not be in the US? If I were a premium Usenet provider, I would move my servers overseas once this happens.
It seems to be that the ??AA had an antiquated business model and is just suing because of the fact they really are not needed anymore. Artists can sell direct through their websites.
I admit to downloading low budget movies I have never heard of it. As a result, I have actually purchased movies from directors of independent films because i got a feel for what their movies were like.
I also purchase anything to support it that is good.
I would have some sympathy for the ??AA if they would have given me some sort of credit on Albums I purchased on 8 Track, Vinyl, Cassette, and then CD. Now they are saying I cannot even copy my CD to the MP3 player legally.
Give the people what they want for a fair price and the majority will pay for it.
Lets face facts. You cant stop friends from loading out DVDs or having friends over to watch them. It is just going to happen.
It seems to me the **AA wants royalties paid for EVERY VIEWING/LISTENING of a songo or movie. It is all about excess greed.
If TWC was to send me a three strike letter then I would swtich to Earthlink which ironically enough goes through Time-Warner. Some broadband company in almost every area is going to turn the other way and allow people civile liberties.
The ??AA are entities that will be gone in 10 years hopefully forever. | |
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