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Chicago launch this week & speed information
(old news - 04:38PM Wednesday Feb 28 2007)
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A little more detail on Comcast's upcoming upstream bandwidth "Powerboost" can be found in this thread in our Comcast forum. A tech hints that Chicago-area Comcast customers will see the faster upstream speeds tomorrow. Supposedly, 6Mbps customers will see 1Mbps upstream speeds for the first 5MB of a large upload, while 8Mbps customers will see 2Mbps upstream speeds for the first 10MB of a large upload. Have no idea what Powerboost is? Check out our previous reports.

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stella

@comcast.net

what a ripoff

wtf 10MB am i reading this right. Comcrap is such a ripoff
Mechano

join:2004-05-30
Antarctica

Power busted

1/2 ass measures again...

Cabal
Premium
join:2007-01-21
Boston, MA

Re: Power busted

For the 99% of users whose upload-related concerns are the 5-10 MB emails with pictures or videos they send, or the periodic file transfer to a friend, this will be a significant boon. The other 1% you'll find here whining.

JoeyDee
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Las Vegas, NV
·Cox HSI

Re: Power busted

said by Cabal See Profile :

For the 99% of users whose upload-related concerns are the 5-10 MB emails with pictures or videos they send, or the periodic file transfer to a friend, this will be a significant boon. The other 1% you'll find here whining.
You nailed it. The current download PB works fine for me. Going from 7Kbsp to 2Mbps will do just fine. Most of my "work" stuff caps out at about 10 meg. I'll be a happy guy.

It ain't the 50/5 verizon offers some places but... for now it'll do.

stella

@comcast.net

said by Cabal See Profile :

For the 99% of users whose upload-related concerns are the 5-10 MB emails with pictures or videos they send, or the periodic file transfer to a friend, this will be a significant boon. The other 1% you'll find here whining.
before you run your mouth off make sure you have the facts about what you say . 99% ? thats a big percentage i can guarantee that there is a bigger portion of comcrap customers who upload files bigger than 10mb. I sometimes upload between 1-2 gb a day to my Xdrive. Files sometimes being 100-200MB and im not a heavy user. and for your information it does not boost files under 30 mb so if your average file size is 10mb that you upload its just going to upload @768kbps... so what your saying makes no sense
fiberguy
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said by Mechano See Profile :

1/2 ass measures again...
Then cancel your service and go with DSL if you don't like it.

Stop your complaining.
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Mechano

join:2004-05-30
Antarctica

Re: Power busted

Now...why would I stop complaining when you know am right ?

Kfedka
Premium
join:2005-05-06
Spokane, WA

False advertisment!

I've had comcast for 4+ years and am overall happy with the. But this powerboost, its makes them look better than they actually are. Why not give a small increase in download/upload speeds and have it perminant? It will look much better on paper imo.

macrospect
All The Little Stuff
Premium
join:2005-08-25
Doylestown, PA

How about some permanent speeds?!

Like 1Mbps is that difficult to achieve? We are only 220kbps from 1Mbps!? Why not make it more permanent.
kd6cae
P2p Shouldn't Be A Crime

join:2001-08-27
Lancaster, CA
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why only powerboost, not permanent?

Why does comcast insist on only bursting to these speeds for short periods while other cable companies already offer permanent 1mbps speeds on upload and even 2mbps speeds if in the right area?
Even Charter has the option of 1mbps upload. If you're going to do a speed upgrade, why not make it permanent instead of bursty, that makes 0 sense to me. Yeah let's give the customer the false sense of higher speeds that really only last for a few seconds. If you're on comcast, a speed test will no longer truly reflect your line speed.
Sure you'll get 2mbit for 10 seconds or so, then go back to a measley 768kbps. We know cable modems can handle 2mbits upstream, so give it to users who want it permanently not for 10 or 20 second bursts!

TKJunkMail
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Re: why only powerboost, not permanent?

said by kd6cae See Profile :

Why does comcast insist on only bursting to these speeds for short periods while other cable companies already offer permanent 1mbps speeds on upload and even 2mbps speeds if in the right area?
Because permanent high speed uploads stress the system because of P2P apps flooding the upload non-stop for many hours at a time.

They want to help their users that occasionally upload some big pics and small videos, but want to discourage those users that use P2P apps.

It is both cost control, avoiding infrastructure upgrades, and making sure that the 90+% of users keep good response time and are not adversely affected by local network congestion caused by P2P users.
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LiberalKing
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Bronx, NY

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Re: why only powerboost, not permanent?

u must work for comcrap. they always blame p2p appz

Placebo
Premium
join:2005-12-14
Huntley, IL

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Re: why only powerboost, not permanent?

Ur so slly. How old r u? Lke 12? I luvz my appz with cinnamon and sugar.

Are you implying that P2P applications don't have an effect on network performance?

kapil
The Kapil

join:2000-04-26
Chicago, IL

LOL. Aaah...there are the words I've been looking forward to saying to TKJunkMail See Profile for so long.

Say what you will about the man and his very slanted point of view, but his posts are generally well thought out and researched.

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said by LiberalKing See Profile :

u must work for comcrap. they always blame p2p appz
I'm retired. And I never worked for a cable or telco company in my life and I have no relatives that have either. I worked for a railroad. So my opinions are not bought and paid for by the incumbents.

And they blame P2P apps for a reason. It is true.
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fiberguy
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Re: why only powerboost, not permanent?

DOn't worry about it. When someone who disagrees with you has NOTHING worth saying or anything intelligent to counter your own view with, the common and least path of resistance is to say "well, you must work for them"...

Those people REALLY need to shut the F***k up and move on. NOT EVERY opinion is bought and paid for by the "evil corporations"... that mentality comes to you brought by fear and stupidity.
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stella

@comcast.net

enough with the p2p its getting old all other cable isp don't have a problem with they're 10/1-15/2 tiers so why would comcast have a problem ... maybe cus there network is s**t. IF thats the case they need stop blaming p2p and upgrade they're crap network
fiberguy
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Re: why only powerboost, not permanent?

Stop spewing shit too, Stella, and stop acting like you are owed anything more than what you are paying for. Your entitlement mentality, for the record, IS what is old.
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BabyBear
Keep wise ...with Night-Owl

join:2007-01-11

Power or Juice, You've been Boosted!

"while 8Mbps customers will see 2Mbps upstream speeds for the first 10MB of a large download."

Umm, think thats supposed to be upload.

Wow for the first 5mb(or 10) of a Large UL eh? Doesn't really seem worth it.

At the very least now no one on Comcast will be able to get a legimate speed test result.
phantom6294

join:2002-02-27
Abingdon, MD
·Comcast

Re: Power or Juice, You've been Boosted!

I guess "large download" is a relative term. If you are downloading an DVD ISO, boosted speeds for the first 5MB or 10MB is pointless.

However, if your idea of a "large download" is a song from iTunes then a boost for the first 5MB to 10MB will come in handy... but for powerusers, powerboost is, in the grand scheme of things, powerless.

BabyBear
Keep wise ...with Night-Owl

join:2007-01-11

Re: Power or Juice, You've been Boosted!

We're talking about UL boost not DL boost.
phantom6294

join:2002-02-27
Abingdon, MD
·Comcast

Re: Power or Juice, You've been Boosted!

said by BabyBear See Profile :

We're talking about UL boost not DL boost.
So true... I wasn't thinking. That said... the principle remains the same. Most non-powerusers won't be uploading files much larger than 5-10MB. Thus, for them, this is a good thing. For powerusers, who are uploading large files, it's pointless.
chemaupr

join:2005-06-06
Alexandria, VA

I alredy have 2mbps...

I have 15/2 mpbs... for a long time now. Good for Comcast but still not very good. Cox standard pckg is 5/2 and that is permanent without the need for boost.

Cox uploads are pretty constant at the 2mbps, where Cox is very unstable is on the DL speed, but what is new...They recently started doing the DL Powerboost... wondering now if they will do it on the uploads.

dvd536
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Phoenix, AZ

Re: I alredy have 2mbps...

said by chemaupr See Profile :

I have 15/2 mpbs... for a long time now. Good for Comcast but still not very good. Cox standard pckg is 5/2 and that is permanent without the need for boost.
Its only 2mbps upload in FIOS areas.
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dwhayden

join:2000-12-23
Greenwood, IN

Be Thankful

While powerboost isn't as good as having a permanent increase, I'm jealous that my ISP doesn't do it. I'll take what I can get.
Gres7

join:2001-03-05
Brooklyn, NY

Re: Be Thankful

What to be jealous about?

Looks like simple teaser to me.

only(!!!) FIRST 5MB of your download would be 1mbps as opposed to 0.768mbps. That would save you wooping 1.3 second.

goofy01

join:2004-02-05
Hammond, IN
·Comcast

Re: Be Thankful

said by Gres7 See Profile :

What to be jealous about?

Looks like simple teaser to me.

only(!!!) FIRST 5MB of your download would be 1mbps as opposed to 0.768mbps. That would save you wooping 1.3 second.
If you already have the /768, then you will have 10MB @ 2mbps. That is probably enough for most regular users

stella

@comcast.net

said by dwhayden See Profile :

While powerboost isn't as good as having a permanent increase, I'm jealous that my ISP doesn't do it. I'll take what I can get.
There is nothing to be thankful about. Maybe if Comcast was not the largest cable isp in the U.S then i could understand why they would need to use a crap alternative like powerboost.
But they are the largest cable isp in America and they're speed are the worst out of the 7 major cable isp in America. Also they earn the most money off all cable isp in America but there still ripping off people with powerboost and false speeds. Soon there techs are going to spam BBR with reviews claiming they have a 16/2 line when in reality it still just 8/768
JSRoman
Premium
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Callahan, FL

Re: Be Thankful

said by stella :

said by dwhayden See Profile :

While powerboost isn't as good as having a permanent increase, I'm jealous that my ISP doesn't do it. I'll take what I can get.
There is nothing to be thankful about. Maybe if Comcast was not the largest cable isp in the U.S then i could understand why they would need to use a crap alternative like powerboost.
But they are the largest cable isp in America and they're speed are the worst out of the 7 major cable isp in America. Also they earn the most money off all cable isp in America but there still ripping off people with powerboost and false speeds. Soon there techs are going to spam BBR with reviews claiming they have a 16/2 line when in reality it still just 8/768
You sound bitter. It is a free upgrade that will benefit majority of CHSI subs. What is so hard to understand about that?
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Joe12345678

join:2003-07-22
Des Plaines, IL

said by stella :

said by dwhayden See Profile :

While powerboost isn't as good as having a permanent increase, I'm jealous that my ISP doesn't do it. I'll take what I can get.
There is nothing to be thankful about. Maybe if Comcast was not the largest cable isp in the U.S then i could understand why they would need to use a crap alternative like powerboost.
But they are the largest cable isp in America and they're speed are the worst out of the 7 major cable isp in America. Also they earn the most money off all cable isp in America but there still ripping off people with powerboost and false speeds. Soon there techs are going to spam BBR with reviews claiming they have a 16/2 line when in reality it still just 8/768
Comcart got as big as they are now buying up the smaller ones. So they may have a lot of older stuff out there.

stella

@comcast.net

Re: Be Thankful

said by Joe12345678 See Profile :


Comcart got as big as they are now buying up the smaller ones. So they may have a lot of older stuff out there.
well my area had all new equpment before Comcrap took over Adelphia. And when i was with Adelphia i always had a solid conection and speeds were always over the advertised cap @6100 kbps down, 840 kbps up ... then comes COMCRAP and now my speeds are like this:

fiberguy
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If it wasn't for the likes of Comcast who is not the worst of the 7 top cable operators, you idiot, you'd be still on a mom and pop cable company stuggling to bring anything to the consumer more than a measly 1mb/256k line like many of the small boys still offer.

Really, do you say ANYTHING that you can back up with facts? or do you just love to come here and bitch?

Bitter? Yes.. I agree, she is bitter. Comcast must have killed her dog or somthing.
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Takeking the "Up To" Statement to the next level

This will satisfy people to a point but to me I prefer having my 5/384 with no caps to trouble me. Putting this out on public gives you a false hope that your connection is really faster then it is.
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Maxo
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You can't win

No matter what ISPs do, people will come here to whine that it's not enough.

macrospect
All The Little Stuff
Premium
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Doylestown, PA

Re: You can't win

Well, yeah. As long as some other country in the world has faster speeds there will always be whiners.

58483323
Gurt me

join:2003-06-23
Normal, IL

Awesome.

This will be greatly appreciated. Better than nothing.

thender2
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Staten Island, NY


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Remember when speed upgrades stayed that way?

If your ISP bumped you from 768/128 to 3000/768 you were able to use the new speed for more than twenty seconds.

At this rate, here is how I see broadband "upgrades" going.

2008: 10/1 on comcast, invisible cap, an extra 300% each way and it works for about a minute.

2009: 15/3 on comcast, 300 GB cap, extra 100% on each way and it works for 30 seconds.

2010: 30/10 on comcast, 70 GB/month cap, extra 25% on powerboost and it works for 20 seconds.

2020 100/100 to everyone, 5 GB/month cap, abuse letters sent out for abusing service after keeping a gmail browser window open.

ISPs don't upgrade their networks anymore. It's so much easier, and less costly. to upgrade the power words and TOS.
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djdanska
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Glen Ellyn, IL
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better than nothing..

Well, if it's this or nothing.. I will take it!

Fr0zen

join:2002-10-22
Chicago, IL

Comcast So Far In Chicago...

I just got Comcast for the first time after being a DSL customer for 8 1/2 years. All in all, i'm very happy. The speeds are great, there is no down time, my sync issue was fixed. Support is pretty shotty (it depends on who you call). I had some issues with the install inititally but that was all taken care of... Can't wait to see the new speeds!

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Reading, PA
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Already works in PA

I was tipped off by an employee so I rebooted my modem on Tuesday. What do you know, upload powerboost is working for the first 6 1/2 MB of my upload. Speedtests even show up from 1400-1900 kbps for the upload.

kapil
The Kapil

join:2000-04-26
Chicago, IL

Hmmm

I'd rather have Satan nail me to the hot lava walls of Hell for all eternity if it meant I didn't have to deal with the "help"desk at Comcast ever again. I last tried Comcast over 2 years ago and my ass still hurts from the pounding they call customer service.
thataboi

join:2004-03-09
Eugene, OR

Upstream powerboost lol. Why not make it 1mb upgrade? I agree with the other people about the P2P story. That is a weaksauce excuse. Hmm you want to send something to a friend or relative you can't ftp because it's against TOS. You can't e-mail it because the files are to big. You can't use p2p programs because it's also against TOS. So tell me wtf am I supposed to do? Oh I guess i'm not supposed to upload. So they release a cheesy 5mb powerboost so people can send their mp3's. I thought making and sharing mp3's was the big taboo back a few months ago? Even though we have mp3 players, cd's to burn them and software to make it. Come on Comcast get with the program! Oh you want to use your webcam? Yeah what a big joke that was! How long has webcams been out? We still don't have the upload to even remotely get 30fps stream. I'm gonna laugh when Verizon buys Comcast. We should all be on fiber 10 years ago.
DJ_Kismuth

join:2001-11-25
Chicago, IL
"power boost."

I love my RCN cable internet: 20Mb/2Mb. No caps, no BS of any kind.

It's REAL internet.
tmc8080

join:2004-04-24
Floral Park, NY

Re: awww how cute....

said by DJ_Kismuth See Profile :

"power boost."

I love my RCN cable internet: 20Mb/2Mb. No caps, no BS of any kind.

It's REAL internet.
Ha.. I piss on your upload.. its 20mb / 5mb up (well 4.4-4.7, but still). Verizon pisses on rcn cable. And yet, a fios powerboost to symmetric would be better.. but that's a cable smoke and mirror gimmick that would screw with people's download caps eventually-- but in a system where we're talking about 1-2mbit upload streams on what SHOULD be docsis 2.0 it's NOTHING.. your actually getting jipped, it should be 15/2 (or in cable speak 12.x / 1.x)ALL THE TIME BY NOW.

Trinijoy
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Brick, NJ

Re: awww how cute....

blah blah blah. Every company rips you off no matter how you look at it.
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