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Camelot One
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AT&T146;s FaceTime Restrictions Could Be Violating F.C.C. Rules

And absolutely nothing will come of it. The FCC "rules" are pretty much useless anyway, so at most this will bring that fact to light.

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From NYTimes article on Samsung/Apple patent case...

In Apple’s Patent Case, Tech Shifts May Follow

The closing comment reflecting judge Koh's firm grip on the courtroom is good for a smile. I like her already.
Kearnstd
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Tbit Ethernet...

I wonder if this will have any use in the home. As in will motherboards and SATA controllers gain the bus bandwidth and will storage tech gain the read/write capacity to make this worth it outside of the enterprise level equipment. I mean a true uncompressed raw HD stream to multiple wired devices in a home could certainly find ways to use the bandwidth. And making home 4k cinema even possible will depend on ethernet and local storage.

But I have more faith in this becoming a reality than many of the wireless schemes. Simply because it is far easier to iron out kinks on 100m of copper wire than it is trying to blast a radio signal through a ceiling, a floor and a wall.
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Mr Fel
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Re: Tbit Ethernet...

The ethernet speeds will definitely get there, and there will eventually be demand high enough to make it happen. Like your example of home streaming, I am planning on doing something like that eventually. Once I can get about 10TB in redundant storage cheaply I will be setting up a streaming media center for my home. With that I can store all my blu-rays and dvd's digitally and stream them to everyone in the house. That by itself can probably taken care just fine by a 1Gbps connection, compressed video of course. Now if the content on the blu-ray's had come uncompressed (you're talking about 700MB to 1TB range here) then yes not only would you need a better connection (10Gbps at least) but the storage shoots up dramatically too (200TB to be on the safe side, a factor of 20 from compressed to uncompressed). This is definitely farther away than just a few generations if you're going to do current standards uncompressed. I think it's safe to say that by the time 1Tbps finally comes down to the consumer level the market will be at the same place that you can actually store the video uncompressed reasonably as well, maybe even at 4k standards (well that might be stretching it just a bit).

The road block I see to these higher speeds is that copper cabling will be more than likely phased out in favor of fiber, even for the home installs. Is that going to happen? I don't know, a lot of pre-existing equipment is copper run through the wall. I don't see too many people opting to get their home wiring redone. For the enthusiasts (like many a regular DSLR user) it'll definitely have its uses and probably won't mind switching over to fiber. For the average joe, I don't know, and I'm not willing to make any predictions there.

My dream is to set up a VPN and make my collection internet streamable, akin to a homebrew Netflix. But that is highly dependent on the ISP's to step up their game, so that's going to stay a dream for a long time I guess.
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Kearnstd
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Re: Tbit Ethernet...

I guess the main push I have for Copper is ease of use. I have no experience with fiber beyond TOSlink used in surround sound. Is networking the same? just plug in the one line and done or does it take something more complex? I am guessing there must be more to it than something as simple as the RJ45 for copper. not that form factors cannot be changed, I can bet the tech guys can find a way to just use the TOSlink style jack for data networks.
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majortom1029

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Re: Tbit Ethernet...

With 10 gigabit fiber ethernet everything has to be of the same company both the switch and ethernet card and the fiber cable. if not you get compatibility problems. Thats why everybody is waiting for 10 gigabit ethernet over copper to gain traction.

1 gigabit ethernet over fiber is pretty much plug and play .

Also with 10g baset you wouldnt have to change your wiring and your switches. all that would be needed is a a card in your switch and an upgraded ethernet card if needed.

The problem is there are no real 10 gig vbase t over copper switches yet. hp has a card with 8 ports for its modular switches and netgear has a switch but no others exist yet.

They should concentrate on getting 10 gig and 100 gig equipment out before going any higher.
BosstonesOwn

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Everett, MA

Re: Tbit Ethernet...

ahhmmm my emulex card on my desktop says different, i setup fiber channel arrays with it daily. i have a blade sfp and a cisco and both play well with the fiber I use, they are not "certified" but I can still hit almost 10 G speeds from the solid state arrays. All though it crushes the desktop and makes it nearly unusable, but it works, 850 nm for the win !
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Mr Fel
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To add just a little bit more to what majortom1029 See Profile wrote, where we use only one copper cable with eight individual strands, for four pairs for communication. Fiber is only one core per cable so it takes two cables for two way communication.

As it stands right now, fiber home networks are overkill. Since we're talking about the future anyway, when a majority of the ISPs start running FTTH more that signifies to me the need to switch to fiber inside the home as well.
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