Missouri University Makes Kids Take Copyright Quiz To Use P2PCorrect answers net you six hours of P2P use... 01:52PM Thursday May 15 2008 by Karltags: legal · FileswappingIn order to deal with the flood of DMCA letters from the entertainment industry, many college campuses have blocked access to P2P services altogether. But according to Inside Higher Education, Missouri University of Science and Technology in Rolla has a different idea. They force students interested in using P2P to take a copyright quiz to get six hours of P2P use. School sanctions for violating copyright include network bans, community service and academic probation. As far as DMCA letters are concerned, it seems to be working: Last academic year, Missouri University of Science and Technology, in Rolla, received some 200 Digital Millennium Copyright Act “takedown” notices from the recording industry, notifying the institution that users of its network had made copyrighted works available for download. This academic year — at a time when colleges across the country have been experiencing sudden spikes in copyright complaints — the university received eight. I'm guessing one or two students game the quiz, download what they want using encryption, then everyone else there simply transfers films and music among themselves off network. So while the University dodges liability and conserves bandwidth, it's probably not doing much for overall piracy levels. At least students don't have to take classes taught by the Copyright Crusading Ferret or Captain Copyright, so that's something.
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| Sigh Well making available and sharing are two different beasts. However, as I said before, the RIAA can send someone to download the file and then claim it's now been shared. I wouldn't put that past them either which way. Anyhow, maybe these people should try other methods outside of p2p. Bittorent? Newsgroups?.... just some suggestions. | |
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| Re: Sigh said by jc100  :Well making available and sharing are two different beasts. However, as I said before, the RIAA can send someone to download the file and then claim it's now been shared. I wouldn't put that past them either which way. Anyhow, maybe these people should try other methods outside of p2p. Bittorent? Newsgroups?.... just some suggestions. Here is a good article on how the RIAA handles its dealings with universities and illegal P2P use:
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| Re: BYOI said by Chiyo :Why not just setup a private hub or something full of stuff? sheesh I know of a few at some local universites taht were just as good. Had all the biggest, latest stuff people wanted. Don't students actually study anymore? 
Back in the last millennium when I was an undergrad I must have spent just about all my non-class time working or studying. I guess I just missed out on all the fun.
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Work, class, study, REPEAT
Worked 2 jobs, a full time internship, 12 additional credits and an independent study on a 400 level Sociology course all in my last semester.
I slept through my graduation party. Hard to believe it was more than 10 years ago.
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| Re: BYOI .... Ya ya we all worked hard and we all were busy. It doesn't mean that like for the last 50 or 60 years, that college kids don't have spare time on their hands to do other things. 1960's were protests and now 2000+ is p2p. Nothing new, nothing old. | |
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| said by N3OGH :Still have the student loan payments to prove it! Ugh... don't remind me... I paid mine off last year. Every now and then I look at the bank website to make sure the balance is still zero.
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| O cut your usual crap PNH. Seriously, colleges have always been about 75 percent study and 25 percent party or leisure. Since colleges have been around college kids have gotten in to trouble for one thing or another. In the 60s it was protests and now in the 2000+ its p2p. I'm not justifying it, but nor is it some shocking revelation where we all must pretend to gasp. It happens, face it. The RIAA isn't even proving their case by these letters. However, most people tend not to fight them due to legal costs. What's to say these affected computers weren't part of a net of hacked drones? While I doubt that to be the case, it's still possible. Botnets and hacked computers wreak havoc on many ISPS. There's nothing to say that said computer isn't hacked and used as someone else's storage and proxy to share said files. Either way, get off the kick bud. I don't even know why I bother replying to you, as rarely do your comments add ANY BIT of relevance to ANY conversation on dslreports. | |
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| Re: BYOI said by jc100 :O cut your usual crap PNH. Seriously, colleges have always been about 75 percent study and 25 percent party or leisure. Wow... between being in a real major, working a couple of part time jobs, and studying, I had no life outside of school. In fact, I work far less now than I ever did as an undergrad.
said by jc100 :I don't even know why I bother replying to you, as rarely do your comments add ANY BIT of relevance to ANY conversation on dslreports. You're just in lust with me.
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| Re: BYOI said by KoolMoe :I dunno, I exited the college track with a 3.2 GPA in my undergrad major and a 3.8 in my grad school MS degree. I finished with a 3.2 as well for my undergrad degree... but I had a hard time earning it. If I hadn't studied as much as I did... I would have flunked out. As for grad school, I slacked... I pulled a 3.1, which of course is just above barely passing
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| Re: BYOI said by KoolMoe :So you slacked...and you didn't par-tay? No, I was just in a real major. Had I shot for a degree in basket-weaving, I might have had more time for fun.
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| LOL Kool me. I never lived on campus but I found time to do stupid things in my spare time with friends. I ended my grad with approx 3.2 as well. It was all that wonderful thing called a balance, as you put it. The thing that sucked for me was I lived 30 miles away from my school and did the commute daily. Therefore, I really couldn't party on campus. It'd been quite hard to get back =P for such a long drive being screwed. Therefore, I made it up with friends where I lived LOL. Either way, unlike PNH who absolutely must be the "SPOCK" of all humanity (without the logic, just the seriousness), I found time to have fun. Hey, I even passed too and never failed a class. In all the time I was in college, I only dropped one class (didn't need it) and got a pity pass on another. Yet, I never failed. So yes PNH, people can have lives. Hey get this, I even got a 4.0 on my Masters. So I guess you just suck at balancing things would be the moral of this story PNH. Maybe you should invest in time management classes =P. | |
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| Re: BYOI Yea... I did nothing and I'm a slack. Did you call your professors slackers? How about your teachers in school? I bet not. I studied to be a teacher. Obviously, that's something you don't appreciate since you know, they EDUCATED YOU. They did a poor job at that it seems though =). | |
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| Re: BYOI said by jc100 :I studied to be a teacher. Ahh... those who can, do. And those who can't, teach. 
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| Re: BYOI Said the man with the education and know how to write the vary sentence that criticizes. Obviously, you are on this computer with the ability to read and write due to your teachers. Likewise, those same teachers educated you with the skills that you possess to be employed. So those who can teach, and those who wish to learn seek their advice. That'd be more accurate. | |
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| Re: BYOI said by jc100 :Said the man with the education and know how to write the vary sentence that criticizes. And you're a teacher?
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| Re: BYOI to present under new aspects - According to Meriam Webster, it can be used as a transitive. I never claimed English was my best point grammatically speaking.
And you're a teacher?
Says the man who criticizes others while using A FRAGMENT and beginning a sentence with a conjunction. The pot calling the kettle black. I guess your teachers DID FAIL YOU. If you are going to mock others, be sure you have your ducks in a row. | |
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| Re: BYOI said by jc100 :to present under new aspects - According to Meriam Webster, it can be used as a transitive. I never claimed English was my best point grammatically speaking. The proper spelling of the word you should have used is "very."
said by jc100 :said by pnh102 :And you're a teacher? Says the man who criticizes others while using A FRAGMENT and beginning a sentence with a conjunction. Actually, my question is grammatically correct. Furthermore, even if I had made a grammatically incorrect statement by ending the above with a period instead of a question mark, it would not be a fragment.
And no, I am not a teacher.
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| Re: BYOI Sigh. First, I referred to the fact you STARTED a sentence with the word AND. And = Conjunction. Therefore, you created a sentence fragment. You're question is as follow: And you are a teacher? Notice, the word and is a conjunction and links two sentences together. What are you linking here? Please elaborate. It has nothing to do with ending that given sentence with a period. So FAILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL would be your word of week. Next time, don't criticize others if you can't even do so properly. As for the word very, I am aware of it. However, that word would also fit my sentence. Vary in terms of new aspects is fine. Either way, I have nothing to prove since you fail at judging others. Once again, PNH comes out missing. | |
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| Re: BYOI said by jc100 :Sigh. First, I referred to the fact you STARTED a sentence with the word AND. I see. So I started it.
said by jc100 : And = Conjunction. Therefore, you created a sentence fragment. Yawn. A sentence fragment is something which cannot stand on its own as a sentence. My original question could, so hence, it is not a fragment.
said by jc100 :Notice, the word and is a conjunction and links two sentences together. You already stated that English wasn't your best subject, so I understand that you may not be able to recognize a properly formed English question.
said by jc100 :So FAILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL would be your word of week. Is that even a word? Maybe you need to go back to "what" and find out if they speak English there.
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| Re: BYOI A) English might not be my best topic but nor is it yours. Go google the word conjunction. Conjunction junction what's your function. Have you ever heard of that phrase? I guess school house rock didn't teach you anything. A conjunction is meant to link two sentences together. You can't get yourself of this one. You failed miserably. The FAILLLLLLLL was meant for emphasis. Obviously, you noticed that and realized it applied to your lame attempt at criticizing others. Back to the topic, you can thank your teachers for your ability to read and write. Not to mention, you can thank them for the job you have or are working towards. If it weren't for them, you would be asking if customers would want big or small fries with that order. | |
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| Re: BYOI said by jc100 :A) English might not be my best topic but nor is it yours. But you haven't proved that my question is grammatically incorrect. Meanwhile, you have been making spelling mistakes (on a website with a spell checker no less), various usage errors and other English mistakes. I don't see how you are in any position of authority to evaluate my perfect English skills.
said by jc100 : Go google the word conjunction. Conjunction junction what's your function. Have you ever heard of that phrase? Direct quotations should be marked as such.
said by jc100 :I guess school house rock didn't teach you anything. Titles are proper nouns and should be capitalized.
said by jc100 :You can't get yourself of this one. You should proofread to make sure you did not any words out
said by jc100 :Back to the topic, you can thank your teachers for your ability to read and write. I would also like to take this opportunity to thank the US military, as I learned to read and write in English.
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| Re: BYOI Once again, you started a SENTENCE with a conjunction. There we have it, PNH can't even grasp English, but he criticizes others.
"But you haven't proved that my question is grammatically incorrect." The word but is a conjunction and IT LINKS two sentences or thoughts together.
Seriously PNH, don't thank anyone for your own stupidity. You're about as lame as it gets here bud. I'm done with this conversation. It's proven time and time again, your basis and delusional tendencies far outweigh arguing with. No wonder you joined the military, you were far too inept to handle the real world so you had to let others dictate your life. This shouldn't be construed in the sense that people who join the military are dumb. However, some like yourself have no other choice, when mother nature gave you nothing else to work from. Obviously, it should be noted all conversations with you go off track and focus on the mundane. At which point, you fail miserably at trying to hash that out, when you make the same mistakes. | |
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| Re: BYOI said by jc100 :Once again, you started a SENTENCE with a conjunction. There we have it, PNH can't even grasp English, but he criticizes others. Sounds like you have reading comprehension problems as well.said by jc100 :Seriously PNH, don't thank anyone for your own stupidity. Maybe some of my teachers went to your school?
said by jc100 :No wonder you joined the military... I did? That's news to me!
said by jc100 : You're about as lame as it gets here bud. I'm done with this conversation. Good. I win.
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| said by jc100 :O cut your usual crap PNH. Seriously, colleges have always been about 75 percent study and 25 percent party or leisure. Since colleges have been around college kids have gotten in to trouble for one thing or another. In the 60s it was protests and now in the 2000+ its p2p. I'm not justifying it, but nor is it some shocking revelation where we all must pretend to gasp. It happens, face it. The RIAA isn't even proving their case by these letters. However, most people tend not to fight them due to legal costs. What's to say these affected computers weren't part of a net of hacked drones? While I doubt that to be the case, it's still possible. Botnets and hacked computers wreak havoc on many ISPS. There's nothing to say that said computer isn't hacked and used as someone else's storage and proxy to share said files. Either way, get off the kick bud. I don't even know why I bother replying to you, as rarely do your comments add ANY BIT of relevance to ANY conversation on dslreports. LOL..
NJIT is probably more along the lines of 95% study and 5% leisure (usually World of Warcraft). I can't recall any good parties taking place here... There is a 15:1 male to female ratio and if there are any females, they are probably Muslims with the cloth over their heads. Good thing is that this school is literally right across the street from Rutgers - Newark, which is completely opposite when it comes to study / party and girls per guy.
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| Re: BYOI You're looking at the wrong school. This is the University formerly known as UMR (though the guy/girl ratio is a little better then what yours was - 10:1). I graduated from there 2 years ago and you really don't understand the need to study. I played WoW for about 80% of the time and studied about 5% and still had just under an A- avg. This is an engineering school with a ton of nerds - of course they're going to be downloading. I'd assume they just wised up to downloading internally from servers and sharers we had instead of going externally to be caught - faster and no RIAA police. The other thing to realize is that it takes 5 min to queue up 20 songs to DL and you listen to music WHILE studying or gaming or whatever. | |
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| LOL but still I'm sure you found time to go out with buddies and relax or just chill. I mean, I'm sure if you attended an "IT" type school, you had the common sense before you got that. As a result, I bet you could blow studying off at time. Just a thought. | |
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| said by pnh102 :said by Chiyo :Why not just setup a private hub or something full of stuff? sheesh I know of a few at some local universites taht were just as good. Had all the biggest, latest stuff people wanted. Don't students actually study anymore? Back in the last millennium when I was an undergrad I must have spent just about all my non-class time working or studying. I guess I just missed out on all the fun. If you go to all of your classes and pay attention, studying isn't really that time consuming... I think more time is spent working on projects and homework. How much time does it take to load up a P2P client and let it download while you're working anyway?
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| Re: BYOI said by Tzale :If you go to all of your classes and pay attention, studying isn't really that time consuming... That was my problem... I had to sleep sometime. I went 4 straight days with no sleep to finish a project... it was a mind-altering experience.
Come to think of it, I haven't pulled an all-nighter for any reason since December of 1998.
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| Re: BYOI said by pnh102 :said by Tzale :If you go to all of your classes and pay attention, studying isn't really that time consuming... That was my problem... I had to sleep sometime. I went 4 straight days with no sleep to finish a project... it was a mind-altering experience. Come to think of it, I haven't pulled an all-nighter for any reason since December of 1998. Yep.... Same problem here. Never had to go for 4 days straight, but I have worked 30+ hours straight on programming projects that were due, with classes in between! If you pay attention in class, you'd be amazed at how easy it is to get an A....
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| Just Like Traffic School The school gets to charge $$$$$$ for the class and gets a degree of immunity in the process from the diaRIAA, the student takes the class and learns enough to know to transfer files to avoid prosecution and then there you have it. Win-Win for everyone. It shuts up the diaRIAA and gets them off the school's back. | |
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| Test answers versus real life actions Wouldn't the students merely give the test answers that they thought the University Administration would want? For example, if the question was "Should you download a movie from a P2P network that was recorded by a movie goer's camcorder: (A) Yes (B) No." The student would answer (B) and then use their P2P time to download a camcorder recorded movie.
This kind of reminds me of that essay I wrote for a Skeptics society when I was a kid. I did a survey to see how people's beliefs in supernatural phenomenon changed as they aged. I made sure that my conclusions were in line with what a skeptics society would believe (that people believed less in the supernatural as they matured). I wound up winning honorable mention in the contest and won $25.
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| Re: Test answers versus real life actions said by Jason Levine :... then use their P2P time to download a camcorder recorded movie... why should they bother with the crappy camcorded movie, when they can likely get a DVD or HD quality version?
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