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| Hello and Welcome to Technology! This is as tedious and stupid as the country of Australia AND the Mormons in Utah attempting to filter the Internet. Maybe Minnesota needs to secede from the Union and form their own country with Utah and Texas? Then all the fundie religious fanatics and other nutjobs can all live together in one big, happy, filtered existence without being bothered by ::REALITY:: | |
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| Re: Hello and Welcome to Technology! said by major marco :This is as tedious and stupid as the country of Australia AND the Mormons in Utah attempting to filter the Internet. Maybe Minnesota needs to secede from the Union and form their own country with Utah and Texas? Then all the fundie religious fanatics and other nutjobs can all live together in one big, happy, filtered existence without being bothered by ::REALITY:: You had better include Kentucky on that list as well. They tried banning Internet gambling sites and failed as well. -- "The trouble with computers, of course, is that they are very sophisticated idiots." - Doctor Who (from Robot)
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| said by major marco :This is as tedious and stupid as the country of Australia AND the Mormons in Utah attempting to filter the Internet. Maybe Minnesota needs to secede from the Union and form their own country with Utah and Texas? Then all the fundie religious fanatics and other nutjobs can all live together in one big, happy, filtered existence without being bothered by ::REALITY:: It's not "fundie religious fanatics" behind this- it's a state bureaucrat trying to protect legal Indian casinos and state lottery proceeds.
Being from CA, you might want to rethink casually throwing out the "nutjob" label- you've got more than your fair share. | |
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| Re: Hello and Welcome to Technology! said by dynodb :It's not "fundie religious fanatics" behind this- it's a state bureaucrat trying to protect legal Indian casinos and state lottery proceeds. said by RayW :The LDS church (Mormons to you) does not affect my surfing at all. Talking to my neighbors, some of them have signed on to an ISP run by the LDS church that does do what you are accusing them of doing, however, and this is a BIG HOWEVER, they choose to do so and are not forced to like you imply (and several have said they like it, others have very mixed opinions). Religious nutjobs are almost always the same folks behind filtering anything, especially causes that are considered immoral by certain religious cults entitites. They vote in very large blocs and this in turn spurs any opportunistic douchebag politician to do their bidding. Try reading and using your brain first before you sound off. -- The Toll
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| Re: Hello and Welcome to Technology! said by major marco :Try reading and using your brain first before you sound off. I suggest you take your own advice. The proposed blocking wasn't enacted by a politician. | |
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| said by major marco :This is as tedious and stupid as the country of Australia AND the Mormons in Utah attempting to filter the Internet. Maybe Minnesota needs to secede from the Union and form their own country with Utah and Texas? Then all the fundie religious fanatics and other nutjobs can all live together in one big, happy, filtered existence without being bothered by ::REALITY:: Just goes to show how little you know, but then the internet is a great device for reading about what is not true, and in many cases, ignorant ranting.
The LDS church (Mormons to you) does not affect my surfing at all. Talking to my neighbors, some of them have signed on to an ISP run by the LDS church that does do what you are accusing them of doing, however, and this is a BIG HOWEVER, they choose to do so and are not forced to like you imply (and several have said they like it, others have very mixed opinions). I know you hate the thought that some folks have freedom of choice and can exercise it, but that is one of the concepts that this country SUPPOSEDLY was founded under.
I get all the porn spam I can puke at, as well as the various physical enhancements that only a fool would respond too, and the Win a Million Dollars at an offshore ripoff casino garbage. But then again, I am not on their ISP, I use Xmission, a private firm that lets us decide what filtering to use.
Oh, you did make one statement that has some partial truth...."This is as tedious and stupid", too bad you went off into a stupor at the point instead of making a reasoned argument (of which there are even several easy ones). -- I am not lost, I find myself every time. | |
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| Re: Hello and Welcome to Technology! I believe he was referring to the general trend of religious people to vote for any politician claiming to write laws banning what they see as "Morally Bankrupt" activities.
These LAWS affect all people in the state/county/country and should not be put into place because some group of people were threatened with an eternity in a dimension of fire if they did not subscribe to a certain belief system think that these activities are "Morally Bankupt"
The stock defense is always that religious people are simply excercising their "free choice" which conveniently always dodges the original problem of the religious groups trying to revoke another persons free choice through legislation. (Think of the children laws) | |
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| Re: Hello and Welcome to Technology! Let's narrow this a little bit more by saying legalistic religious people want to ban activities they don't agree with.
Depending on how you want to define religious, I could fall into that stereo type. However, I am a true believer that you can't force anyone to be morally right. You can simply teach them the difference between right and wrong and what integrity is and then hope when they stand face to face with the decision they make the right one. No matter what "religion's" version of the Bible you look at, that is the lesson it will teach.
Just like in real life, even on the Internet if someone wants it, they will find a way to get it and there is no way you can stop them. | |
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| So everyone has a job in Minnesota Every student getting into college, everyone has great heathcare, there is no crime, roads are perfect, taxes are the lowest in the land...
Cause only when this happens should any frakkin' dumbass political hack be worried two seconds about online any G-D thing. | |
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| Re: So everyone has a job in Minnesota said by Chiyo :EDIT: I did some digging and found a website of what he does or I should say did. Occupation: Network engineerI'm very shocked that someone in the IT community would be backing a bill to block sites or filter the internet but I guess once you get into politics  things change and you've got to do whatever you can do to stay elected :s I also left a voice mail for him saying I'd like to discuss his proposal of the bill and why he feels that he should be wasting time on such a frivolous bill instead of woryying about bigger things. You can find more information here on him: » www.house.leg.state.mn.us/member···id=12262 I think you're confusing who's behind the Internet gambling ban with who's trying to stop it.
Garofalo is the Republican legislator trying to ban the state from trying to block certain gambling websites- he's not the one behind the attempt to block websites. Perhaps it's not the highest priority bill that'll get passed this year, but it's certainly not the lowest.
It was the (unelected) head of Alcohol and Gambling Enforcement (part of the Division of Public Safety) that came up with this website blocking nonsense. | |
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1 edit | Re: So everyone has a job in Minnesota said by Time :said by Bit :Every student getting into college, everyone has great heathcare, there is no crime, roads are perfect, taxes are the lowest in the land... Cause only when this happens should any frakkin' dumbass political hack be worried two seconds about online any G-D thing. You expect more from a state that will probably end up having Al Franken as a Senator? Both options aren't really that appealing.
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| said by qworster :....you can not legislate morality! Again- in this case it's not even a lawmaker pushing this. It's an unelected bureaucrat.
Regulating gambling, salt, trans-fats in resturants- it's not just "legislating morality"; it's a nanny-state notion that lawmakers know what's best for us better than we do, and are willing to enforce their judgement on us all at gunpoint.
If it had to do with gambling being considered immoral, I doubt the state would invest so much effort in promoting it's own form of gambling by means of Powerball and scratch-off tickets themselves. | |
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| Re: Why can't the MORON lawmakers realize that.... said by dynodb :said by qworster :....you can not legislate morality! Again- in this case it's not even a lawmaker pushing this. It's an unelected bureaucrat. Regulating gambling, salt, trans-fats in resturants- it's not just "legislating morality"; it's a nanny-state notion that lawmakers know what's best for us better than we do, and are willing to enforce their judgement on us all at gunpoint. If it had to do with gambling being considered immoral, I doubt the state would invest so much effort in promoting it's own form of gambling by means of Powerball and scratch-off tickets themselves. I believe that both of you are correct.... | |
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